Re: The birders!

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So, over all these years when people have said they are going out "watching birds," they were actually training to work against domestic terrorism. It finally makes sense now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:17 AM
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For a while, I thought it was euphemism for some kind of a sex thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:23 AM
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Oh. What about twitchers?


Posted by: conflated | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:33 AM
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John Birchers into self-flagellation.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:39 AM
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Dang. A strongly worded letter from birdwatchers. That's gonna leave a mark.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:43 AM
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They are the most stealth of hunters, but the only weapons they use to shoot their prey are cameras.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:53 AM
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I would like to see a television series about vigilante birders.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure I remember several episodes of Rockford Files where Jim talked about all of his birding.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:56 AM
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Kevin and the birders is a pretty great band name.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 7:02 AM
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Also, as warnings go, this one doesn't really seem that friendly to me. These birders are sarcastic!


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 7:16 AM
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They're not very trusting either. Or maybe putting both the Ivory-billed woodpecker and the dodo on my life list was just too much.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 7:32 AM
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Is Jonathan Franzen their leader?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 7:40 AM
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Take only Oregon militia men, leave only footprints.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 7:56 AM
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Some of the "leave no trace" stuff seems to be trying too hard. Apparently, you're supposed to piss on rocks instead of plants. They say that's because then animals will eat the plants to get your valuable pee-salt and thus damage the plants. But I like to sit on rocks and would prefer people not piss on them.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:00 AM
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Pee under plants. Really get in there.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:02 AM
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Under the plants is roots, which are still plants.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:05 AM
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They say that's because then animals will eat the plants to get your valuable pee-salt and thus damage the plants.

Speaking with the immense authority granted me by my tertiary and quaternary education in the relevant field, I can say that I am fairly sure that some animals eat plants even if you haven't peed on them first.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:06 AM
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Other animals also pee on plants. Vidi.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:07 AM
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Only pee on other animals' pee after checking to make sure it is comparably salty to your own.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:08 AM
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If you have untreated diabetes, you need to be even more careful because of the sugar.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:09 AM
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If you lift rocks to pee under them, that solves both problems. And also occasionally allows you the exciting experience of peeing on snakes.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:10 AM
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The OP feels like the premise for a great horror-comedy.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:10 AM
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Moving rocks counts as "a trace."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:12 AM
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I thought strict leave no trace principles required "pack it in, pack it out"--pee in empty water bottles or an empty hydration bladder, and carry it out with you.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:13 AM
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Other animals also pee on plants.

The other day I walked past a house with a sign conveying the sentiment "don't let your dog use the bathroom on my lawn." I was tempted to ring the bell and ask how they convinced the squirrels to pee elsewhere, too.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:15 AM
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That's only for certain, especially fragile areas. And (I think) it's only for what conservationists call "dropping duece", not pee.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:16 AM
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Exactly. Law enforcement would eventually catch up with the birder/slashers as theycompulsively divvied up an Oregonian for removal.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:17 AM
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I don't know. I've been in very popular backcountry campsites where you can't walk off trail in certain areas without stepping in (human) shit, and without risking your pants getting wet from (human) piss. It's pretty gross.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:34 AM
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You're supposed to poop in a hole, swirl it around to mix with dirty, and bury it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:38 AM
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For step 2, you should use a stick.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:39 AM
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26: it's very good advice if you are worried about being tracked. Tracker dogs will pick up on general body scent, of course, but even a human scout will be able to pick up urine and faeces. Plus, they'll be able to assess numbers and diet (and thus, potentially, nationality) from examining the stools.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:43 AM
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The OP feels like the premise for a great horror-comedy.

Presumably titled Hide


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:50 AM
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If you want to go very far, I'd think the extra weight you'd have to carry would be worse than the marker left behind. Urine weights about a two pounds per quart.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:51 AM
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You dump it into a watercourse.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:53 AM
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32 must surely involve war owls.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:54 AM
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34: That's a big violation of Leave No Trace even if it leaves no trace.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:56 AM
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True, but it's a good way to not be tracked.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 8:58 AM
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The bird watchers will still be able to track you regardless.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 9:02 AM
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This is the emptiest flight I've been on since the 90s. They're moving people around to balance it out.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 9:15 AM
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I liked my old seat better.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 9:18 AM
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The bird watchers will still be able to track you regardless.

Crebain - black crows from Dunland. No doubt they are spies of Saruman.

(The important distinction between a bird watcher and a bird-watcher.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 10:57 AM
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If you want to go very far, I'd think the extra weight you'd have to carry would be worse than the marker left behind. Urine weights about a two pounds per quart.

Or, you know, a kilo a litre. Metric FTW.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 1:29 PM
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The other day I walked past a house with a sign conveying the sentiment "don't let your dog use the bathroom on my lawn."

Clearly the answer here is for the homeowners to remove the bathroom from their lawn.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 1:33 PM
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I laughed out loud.

In high school some friends came upon a sign, on a university campus lawn, that read DON'T TROD ON THE SOD, and they immediately stole it. It may have given more joy to them than protection to the grass... but probably not.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 2:05 PM
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Aha, found it! Here is the sign I saw posted. I puzzled over how someone could hate dog poop so much that they'd post...a small sculpture of a dog pooping.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 2:11 PM
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42: Metric has no advantage here - a pint's a pound!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01- 8-16 6:16 PM
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40: you did have a fantastic seat, heebs.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 1:24 PM
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45: Maybe they're against dogs entering swimming competitions.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 2:06 PM
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If dogs aren't supposed to poop in swimming pools, why do pools have filters?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 2:13 PM
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49: Semi-related.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 3:01 PM
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OT: Is there an episode of Pokemon where Ash dies, ideally while in great pain and after witnessing Pikaku's death?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 3:06 PM
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50: It may not be a semi truck.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 3:22 PM
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On-topic thanks to 51. I learned an odd little tidbit about people on the Internet today. There's this kid's show, "Teen Titans Go," which is an extremely goofy cartoon for little kids. The style of humor is somewhere between "Ren and Stimpy" and "Spongebob". My kids recently watched a bunch of episodes. I wouldn't ever watch it on my own, but each episode generally would make me laugh out loud at least once.

There are people on the internet who HATE it. And not because they are parents who've been forced to watch it 10,000 times, but because they're early 20-somethings who watched some other Teen Titans cartoon ten years ago, and they are outraged that it's not the same. They complain about how the characters aren't likeable, and that the old cartoon stood for something. The Internet is full of rants on this show has betrayed the art of cartoons. I find this completely hilarious.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 3:35 PM
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That one isn't half bad. I like twitchy Robin.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 9-16 3:45 PM
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And the thread comes full circle.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 4:25 AM
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Metric has no advantage here - a pint's a pound!

Not always - only true for one of your inferior US pints.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 5:12 AM
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A pint's a pound the world around, spaceman.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 8:25 AM
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I know I bought gas in imperial gallons in Canada. Lot more miles to the gallon up there.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 11:15 AM
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Meanwhile, back at the refuge, a second group of heavily armed idiots appears to have shown up uninvited to provide "security" and mediate a "peaceful resolution."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 4:36 PM
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Their leader, Brandon Curtiss, said the group came to "de-escalate" the situation by providing security for those inside and outside the compound.

Seriously what is wrong with America that it is full of these bizarre fantasists LARPing around with massive arsenals? And is there any way to sort of.. confine them all to one place and let them sort of amongst themselves who the good and bad guys are?


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 5:11 PM
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Maybe that's why the authorities have been taking such a hands-off approach to dealing with the refuge standoff.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 5:28 PM
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Two ambiguously good men with guns enter, one good man leaves!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 5:42 PM
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It's nice that the second non-militia militia showed up to mediate between the first one and the feds/locals, but what the situation really needs is a third heavily armed group to mediate between the other two. Also it would be nice if the Farrellys and the Coens would team up to tell the story.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 01-10-16 7:13 PM
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