Re: PTA

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Of course it was Orange County.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:07 AM
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Dude. You say "utter mess" I say "pass the popcorn"


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:08 AM
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Judge should've reduced the penalty by a few $100k to set aside money for the kid's inevitable therapy needs.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:22 AM
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3: Are you saying my child is crazy? I will track you down! You will regret this!


Posted by: Ava Everheart | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:26 AM
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Note to all, this is the kind of person you come across as by pulling that funny subcontinental accent of yours at parties.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:36 AM
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Okay, I take back my complaints about being the only parent on the PTA. It could be much worse!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 8:43 AM
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Of course it was Orange County.

Ha! My thought reading the article was "How is this story not from Florida?"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 9:14 AM
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I'd been following this one for a while. The best part is that the couple at one point sued the LA Times and OC Police Department for defamation, while their criminal case was still pending, and then confessed to doing the supposedly defamatory stuff. Also the Mom was a self-published crime novelist who wrote a book about a kidnapping, and then sued anonymous Amazon reviewers.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 9:48 AM
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and then sued anonymous Amazon reviewers.

That's awesome.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 9:52 AM
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I would expect a crime novelist to be a better criminal than this.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 9:53 AM
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10: Now you know why she had to self-publish.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 9:58 AM
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Orange County, California is the Orange County, Florida of California.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:00 AM
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Oh also the Dad was the partner in charge of recruiting for his (totally respectable) OC law firm.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:02 AM
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5: Or this scene from the US version of The Office's painful first season.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:04 AM
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Ava Everheart, that's such a Google-proof name to adopt.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:20 AM
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Of course she was having an affair with a fireman.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:24 AM
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So I did Google. The top results show two Facebook pages. One for a Princess! I'm afraid to look.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:24 AM
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16: But even he couldn't put out the fire of her crazy.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:28 AM
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"I will track you down! You will regret this!" should become an Unfogged catchphrase, I think.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:29 AM
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Her blogspot page links to an about.me, which links to the defunct kenteaster.com. The first has this wonderfully constructed paragraph:

When it comes to her qualification, then Ava is a well-educated woman. She was an undergraduate from University of California, Berkeley and completed her law from UC Berkeley SOL Boalt Hall; Berkeley, CA.

Also: a literal flag-waving picture.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:33 AM
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Poor kids. They too had their names changed to Everheart.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:35 AM
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20 !


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:36 AM
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20: One begins to understand why her novel was self-published.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:39 AM
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I feel like 20 may be some kind of weird spambot website thing but who knows. I feel like I read somewhere that she moved to Cuba to avoid the civil trial.


Posted by: RT | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:40 AM
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Its pretty cool the spambots have become sentient enough to write entire two-entry blogs.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:44 AM
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Won't help for long. Thanks Obama!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:44 AM
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Oh, googling, that turns out to be wrong. She showed up at the civil trial and denied doing anything at all even though she'd already pled guilty. Good strategy!


Posted by: RT | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:44 AM
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with a drug-planting scheme against a former PTA president, and two graduates of elite law schools in jail.

Not graduates of elite law schools!!! I would never have expected such a denouement.

Not baby ducks!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:47 AM
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The baby ducks were me.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:50 AM
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I don't think anyone from my law school class has been convicted for anything. In each of my elite high school and elite college classes there are at least two convicted murderers that I know of, one of whom I knew pretty well.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 10:59 AM
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Be the change, RT.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:01 AM
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I wonder if anyone from my year at my not-elite-precisely-but-certainly-a-well-regarded-SLAC has been convicted of anything especially awful. It would be nice if so - I've always felt that I'm letting down the side by having a pink collar job, and the thought of one of my contemporaries having done something measurably worse than not living up to their degree is cheering.

(As you'd expect, everyone I knew who was from a working class background has gone on to either working class careers or maybe low-level nonprofit careers; everyone whose parents were professionals is a professional. Presumably this means that everyone whose parents committed terrible crimes has gone on to a life of villainy.)


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:13 AM
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Presumably these people have both now been disbarred?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:13 AM
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She showed up at the civil trial and denied doing anything at all even though she'd already pled guilty.

In the American legal system, there are two kinds of courts, and they totally don't have anything to do with each other. Seriously. Don't sweat it.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:17 AM
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33: I don't think it's been proven that they underbilled anybody, so no.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:18 AM
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If she's still allowed to practice, Ava sounds like the ideal person to represent the lone Malheur holdout whose last stand is being liveblogged in the New Hampshire thread.*

*Assuming he survives.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:29 AM
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They're both long since disbarred


Posted by: RT | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:32 AM
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32: I forget, did you attend M., C., or S.O.?


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 11:55 AM
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I need grammar help. Where would you insert hyphens into the following phrase:

"laptops and tablets for students programmes"

This is referring to two different types of programs programmes, inclusive of those that hand out laptops, and those that hand out tablets (as opposed to lucky kids who get both laptops and tablets).

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Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:00 PM
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I wouldn't use a hyphen at all. But I would write students' with an apostrophe.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:31 PM
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An apostrophe? I don't see it. "Students' laptops" would take one, but "laptops for students'"?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:35 PM
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I'm coming up empty. This has to be said super-consisely?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:39 PM
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Clarity:
"laptops and tablets for students' programmes"


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:39 PM
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So, "laptops- and tablets-for-students programmes"?

"Programmes that distribute laptops and tablets to students" would be preferable.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:41 PM
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This has to be said super-consisely?

Its going to be referenced a bunch of times in the document, so yes.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:41 PM
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How does "Laptops- and tablets-for-students programmes" work?

I don't actually like it, but I think it's the best you can do if you can't rewrite the sentence.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:41 PM
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(laptops and tablets for students) programmes.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:42 PM
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44 is correct. I didn't understand what Spike was getting at.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:42 PM
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You can't say something like "...which we will refer to as laptop programs and tablet programs, respectively"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:43 PM
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Given 45, how about "student device programmes"?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:43 PM
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44 was something like I was thinking. Except I had come up with "laptops and tablets-for-students programmes." Unclear about that first hyphen.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:45 PM
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"Student device programmes" isn't bad, except for the need to define it, and the fact that nobody actually calls them that.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:47 PM
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"laptops/tablets-for-students (L/TFS) programmes"

or

"laptops- and tablets-for-students (LFS/TFS) programmes"

Then use the acronyms.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:48 PM
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Acronyms, eh? That wins on concise, but looses points for opaque. I'll think about it.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:51 PM
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The real test is, can I get through this thing without using the word "stakeholders."


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:55 PM
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55: See if you can work in some language about drowning and shooting bunnies. I hear thats trending in the education world right now.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:58 PM
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So, define it:
"Programmes that distribute laptops or tablets to students (student device programmes)"
or:
"Student device programmes (programmes that distribute laptops and tablets to students)"
and then talk about student device programmes (or SDPs, but like you say, opacity).
Stipulating a definition that doesn't match actual usage sucks, but the alternatives look painfully clunky.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 1:58 PM
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I wish I could just call them "laptops-for-students programmes." Its unfortunate that some places are giving their kids tablets instead. I mean, sure, poor kids get to read the internet and download apps, but you can't write a term paper without a proper keyboard.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 2:05 PM
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"In this study, we recommend that SDPs be leveraged by stakeholders for drowning and shooting bunnies."


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 2:07 PM
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Do it. You know you want to.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 2:11 PM
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Maybe there's a app for that.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 2:14 PM
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How about just "computers-for-students programmes"? Why be specific about the presence/absence of a keyboard when you don't have to?


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 2:41 PM
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62 makes a solid point. Keyboards are obviously not the sine qua non of "computer", since computers predate keyboards as input devices.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 3:03 PM
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That's pretty good, actually.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 3:08 PM
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I mean, sure, poor kids get to read the internet and download apps, but you can't write a term paper without a proper keyboard.

No choice but to get a 2nd job, so they can afford to purchase.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 3:09 PM
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65: That was ambiguous -- of course they wouldn't be purchasing a keyboard.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 3:09 PM
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Turing machines for students programmes.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 3:11 PM
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No choice but to get a 2nd job

These kids will be lucky to get first jobs, which is why they need computer skills to begin with.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-16 4:38 PM
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