Re: Trump U

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Trump's winking racism.

Also, who on earth substitutes "Spanish" for "Hispanic"? 70-year-olds, I guess.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:02 PM
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People concerned that Señor Wences is taking our jorbs?


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:03 PM
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In American history class in high school, we read the KKK constitution (Konstitution?), or some founding document, and yeah, it was mostly about boggling at the ridiculousness of it. Didn't dsquared have some theory about the KKK having been organized by drycleaners trying to get the white-robe/hood cleaning business?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:03 PM
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3: The 20's KKK revival, that would be, I think.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:10 PM
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Oh, right. I mean, the OG Nathan Bedford Forrest Klan, not so much about drycleaning.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:15 PM
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1: One of my grandmothers, born and raised in Nowheresville, North Carolina, euphemized (from her perspective) Latinos/Hispanics as "Italian."

I am not a crackpot making this up.

Can we, as a society, agree to establish a biennial holiday long weekend of punching KKK members and similar white supremacists, Neo-Nazis and other depraved filth in their wretched faces? It could really bring the rest of us together, à la that snake-killing holiday on The Simpsons.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:26 PM
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1 - I guess some people here will mock it as a lawyerly/establishment liberal "oh my stars" reaction, but I was for real shocked by that. We now have the presumptive presidential candidate from one of our two major parties making fun of the Latino ethnicity of a sitting federal judge, in a case involving that candidate?!? What the hell.

Fortunately there's no special reason to worry about this kind of language, because either (a) the Republican party has always already used exactly this rhetoric and/or (b) at least Trump is an anti-establishment populist.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:36 PM
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6.3: Too late! Trump already has Secret Service protection.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:44 PM
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2: A formerly resident historian mentioned a paper about them.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:52 PM
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"who knew that the KKK had such dorky fucking names for everything

Everyone? I mean, their leader is the "Grand Wizard". And, you know, they're the Ku Klux Klan.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:52 PM
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I wonder how much right wing violence and political activity could be defused if only they had a more harmless outlet for their obvious deep desire to LARP.
How many lives has D&D saved?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 1:58 PM
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10: really, you clicked through and knew those titles?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:04 PM
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International Order of St. Hubertus, for instance.

Deum Diligite Animalia Diligentes


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:10 PM
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How many lives has D&D saved?

Can one truly call them "lives"?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:11 PM
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LARP the '50s? LARP the '20s? LARP the post-Reconstruction? LARP the Middle Ages? How's a white guy to decide?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:12 PM
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10: really, you clicked through and knew those titles?

Obviously I didn't know a lot of them, but I did know that every single bit of official KKK nomenclature, including the KKK itself, that I had heard, was fucking dorky.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:21 PM
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Also, it may be a bit late now, but given past experience on Sadly, No! and LGM, should we not be googleproofing this thread?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:24 PM
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3: I think there was a Mitchell and Webb skit along those lines.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:24 PM
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Tr/ump?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:30 PM
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Christ, how far does he go down his Google hits, that you have to Google-proof his name?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:35 PM
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Do Armenians count as white for the Klan? There could be some real synergy between the Klan and the Kardashians.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:37 PM
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Everyone? I mean, their leader is the "Grand Wizard". And, you know, they're the Ku Klux Klan.

What an obnoxious response! I forgive you. You're probably just having a bad day.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:37 PM
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This must mean that America is finally ready for a Mortal Kombat reboot.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:43 PM
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23 to 21.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:43 PM
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21: Clinton could make it even more exciting by picking Kanye as her VP.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:47 PM
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Don't blame me, I voted Jill Stein/Raw Poetic.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 2:55 PM
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6.3: Too late! Trump already has Secret Service protection.

Are we sure those aren't the Hell's Angels?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 3:01 PM
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Something else they're banking on as hurting Trump by showing up scandalous secret reasonableness - perhaps a bit better chances compared to, say, when they thought the same on his Social Security position, since this new one is more directly contrary to how he got popular, but not holding my breath.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 3:07 PM
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21: Those girls seem way too fond of black dick for that to work out.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 3:11 PM
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OP.2: Superman knew!

That is still one of my favorite comic-book-stuff stories. He may be fictional, but that doesn't mean that Superman didn't defeat the real life KKK and nearly eliminate them as a serious political force from the country! (Ok they came back a bit later but not as what they had been before.)

I almost feel like Trump should get off the hook for Trump University, in a way he probably shouldn't for all the other "Trump X's are the greatest ones ever!" scams he ran. I mean, he was selling it as "Hey, I'll teach you how to get suckers to give you lots of money - for only $30,000!". And he made a huge amount doing it as well. At some level there has to be some kind of "Your honor it was too ridiculous and come on they deserve it" defense for this kind of thing.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 3:23 PM
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30.last sounds like the bad version of November.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:01 PM
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Waiting for this crowd to start chanting ""Gooble gobble, we accept you, one of us! One of us!"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:17 PM
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I thought I knew how dorky KKK names were, but dang.

Kludd? Kligrapp? Kleagle?

This is awesome: "A Klokann of three members, each one named a Klokan"

These all seem like names Doonesbury would have come up with.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:18 PM
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I have Trumps' new slogan: Yes we KKKan


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:20 PM
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31: Sure, but honestly if we agreed that only people who voted for Trump get Trump for their president (maybe we could divide up the country that way) I think I'd have about the same reaction...


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:22 PM
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30.3: Isn't there some line about it being immoral to leave a sucker's pocket unpicked?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:43 PM
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"You can't cheat an honest man; never give a sucker an even break, or smarten up a chump."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 4:48 PM
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There's beer in the hotel room mini-fridge. I can't find a price list. Does that make it complementary?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 5:12 PM
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to what?


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 5:17 PM
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To not much, apparently. I've never had Skol beer before but its pretty bad.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 5:36 PM
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Higham's history of nativism in the US, Strangers in the Land, is something like 50 years old but still probably worth reading. There's a long section about the KKK of the 1920s resembling a pyramid scheme. I think there's been some recent work on the KKK but I'm no historogaphing type person anymore.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 8:04 PM
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14: True, it depends how they were resurrected after losing all their hit points.


Posted by: conflated | Link to this comment | 02-29-16 9:27 PM
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I thought I knew how dorky KKK names were, but dang.

"Affiliated with the Wip Wap Wop and the Bingley Bongley Boo." (The Mitchell & Webb link is on Standpipe's blog.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 3:17 AM
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41 slolernr linked to something in the comments a while back.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 4:39 AM
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38: No. It means that if you have to ask the price, then you probably can't afford it.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 6:15 AM
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A previous guest stole the price list.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 6:37 AM
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I've never had Skol beer before but its pretty bad.

The beer is not complimentary. Neither is Spike.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 6:37 AM
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Due to a childhood obsession with secret societies I knew about the Klan's wacky names for everything (Klavern and Klonklave being my favorites). Also I learned their recognition system, which is as comically stupid as everything else about them.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 7:13 AM
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Interview with Vivek Chibber Shadowproof, formerly FDL

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"Over the past thirty years or so, one of the side effects of the neoliberal turn has been the creation of a kind of intermediate class of brokers, real estate agents, sometimes small capitalists, and political officials, who are black. And, for them, the prospect of having a real, deep structural reform of the economy is quite threatening."

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Is today really Supertuesday? All the sites are only talking about the fucking Republicans, as if the Dem race were over. Sanders chances are slim, but 2016 Supertuesday only allocates half the delegates that 2008 did.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 7:29 AM
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I'm ridiculously tempted to memorize and use the Kalendar system. Hey what's today? Dark, Woeful, and Hideous! When's dinner tonight? Oh, sometime between Bloody and Doleful, probably.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 7:34 AM
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This used to be a stable subject of D^2's blog - how many secret societies the US used to have, and how many of them were basically providers of life insurance. I forget if he covered the KKK (K^3?)


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 7:38 AM
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"Oh - don't forget! You have a Bloody Woeful dentist appointment."

I guess in some cases I could see the appeal?


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 7:39 AM
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This used to be a stable subject of D^2's blog - how many secret societies the US used to have, and how many of them were basically providers of life insurance. I forget if he covered the KKK (K^3?)

Woodmen Life is still around!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 12:21 PM
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A list of ones in North America.

Forester's still around as well.

Dr. Oronhyatekha [A Mohawk] held the office of Supreme Chief Ranger (now called "International Fraternal President") from 1879 until 1906; he died in 1907. By the early 1890s he had successfully transformed the Foresters into one of North America's leading fraternal benefit societies.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 12:35 PM
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I thought it was sort of common knowledge that the Klan started out as something analogous to a fraternity, or modelled on a fraternity, and that all its nomenclature came from that heritage of intentionally comical frat pranksterdom. ("Frat bros: never turn your back on one.")


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 1:43 PM
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(Leastways I remember happening across that answer the first time I heard they had leaders named "Grand Wizards" and "Grand Cyclops.")


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 1:44 PM
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I know about "Kleagle," since that's the usual bit of soi-disant evidence that Democrats are the real racists. And "Grand Wizard" is memorable. In that context, none of the other examples here are surprising, but I admit I didn't know them in advance.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 2:05 PM
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Grand Cyclops
Memorably portrayed by John Goodman in O Brother, Where Art Thou?.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 2:11 PM
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Looks like I'm totally paying for the beer. Still don't know the price, though. At the grocery store its like 70 cents a can. I was hoping to buy one and sneak it back into the fridge before they did inventory but I missed my chance.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 3:33 PM
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Typically water is $4/bottle and beer would be $7 per can. Based on my extensive surveying of chain hotels.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 3:43 PM
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I have it on good authority that the water is only $2, so I'm hoping I'll catch a break.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 3:47 PM
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What's the skit where some horrible organization has typical bureaucratic infighting and regulations? I like to imagine something similar at the offices of the KKK. "No, Cletus, you can't just start inserting extra Ks in your business title for your cards and letterhead."


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 3:54 PM
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Remember ladies to do your kleagle exercises to keep that area tight down there.


Posted by: Opinionated Racist Gynocologist | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 4:58 PM
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63: David Duke actually was a big Kegel advocate for awhile.

If anyone wants to help out the brave antifascists injured in Anaheim: https://www.gofundme.com/p9rzjhhg


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 5:31 PM
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64: Oh fuck those idiots. For christ's sakes, they managed to cede the high ground to Klan members. Real brave of them to fight with like twenty on three odds and kick the shit out of a literal senior citizen. Maybe getting stabbed will be an educational experience.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 03- 1-16 10:08 PM
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Don't suppose anyone has a link to anything approaching actual reportage of what happened with the anti-fascists? All I can find is slapfights in the comments sections of the crowdfunding sites.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 5:00 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-klan-rally-in-anaheim-erupts-in-violence-one-man-stabbed-20160227-story.html


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 6:39 PM
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Doesn't have much detail, though.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 6:39 PM
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Crap, that was the wrong link. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-kkk-rally-stabbings-wanted-20160229-story.html


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 6:42 PM
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I guess if they tell the DA that you attacked an old man in his bed sheets, you get charged with elder abuse instead of assault.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 8:32 PM
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69: Thanks.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03- 2-16 8:48 PM
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