Re: Guest Post - Stories of Addiction

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Would this be a bad thread to ask for recommendations for cannabis vendors in Seattle? I have the opportunity of a brief visit this afternoon to procure some. I'm looking more for the Kroger's of dispensaries than the Whole Foods or Dean & DeLuca. Dockside seems to fit the bill, unless someone wants to steer me elsewhere.


Posted by: Midnight Toker | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 7:57 AM
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If you can't ask your social network who can you ask?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 8:03 AM
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I think asking for cannabis vendors is fine, but asking for a heroin dealer would be in appropriate.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 8:04 AM
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Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 8:06 AM
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It's not a crack house, it's a crack home.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 8:25 AM
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Thank you for the link, that looks like a really good interview, and I will read it. But I'm a little wary because, for whatever reason, "stories of addiction" push an emotional button for me, I find them really draining.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 8:59 AM
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1) Searching for "washington pot shop reviews" I get a yelp page "Best recreational marijuana in Seattle"

Uncle Ike's Pot Shop has 111 reviews
Seattle Cannabis 22 reviews
Dockside 31 reviews
and so on

Going easily to the Dockside site, I check out the full menu of strains and prices. It does look a little Walmarty, and the reputation of such franchises in Colorado is questionable. Underpaid and undertrained staff and trimmers, badly and rush cured pot. But some get decent reviews. Really can't compare prices without knowing WA's tax structure, but Dockside looks fine.

My current plan if I get back up to Col is half emporium (Livwell) pot and half boutique

Or someone could email me a phone number or address in DFW or Austin.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 9:16 AM
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And addiction stories push an emotional button in me too, though possibly not quite the same one as NickS


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 9:20 AM
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And addiction stories push an emotional button in me too, though possibly not quite the same one as NickS

Probably not. I imagine there are a lot of different buttons they can push for different people.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 9:42 AM
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those rat park experiments haven't seemed to reproduce

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:11 AM
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When stereotypes fight back.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:14 AM
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I had realized this already before, I guess first last year when I was doing some Al-Anon, but there's almost no adult I deal with on a regular basis who isn't abusing drugs/alcohol or dealing with untreated/undertreated mental illness, with many of the former problems being a stab at solving the latter. I think the empathy and expanding of horizons he talks about is real, but it's also incredibly exhausting and takes a huge emotional toll on the person who has to do the heavy lifting of keeping at least some things moored to reality.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:15 AM
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10: So I can't leave my heroin around my rat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:18 AM
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More importantly, Mobes, can you leave it around your Squirtle or has your quest failed?


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:19 AM
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there's almost no adult I deal with on a regular basis who isn't abusing drugs/alcohol or dealing with untreated/undertreated mental illness, with many of the former problems being a stab at solving the latter

Does that mean either that you don't interact with your co-workers much or that your workplace is . . . somewhat high-drama?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:20 AM
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I'm never going to get enough Squirtle Candy to see what my Wartortle will evolve into.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:21 AM
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Both parts of 15, though I'm not accusing anyone at work of substance abuse. I've been working at home for two days a week and by the end of the year will transition to being totally at home and I think it will be much less stressful. I eat in restaurants at lunch just to avoid the toxic breakroom. Instead taking a book to bed sounds like heaven!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:33 AM
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Totally on-topic: My desk at work is within range of two Pokestops. Contrary to the OP, though, I can't even be social about it, and instead have to be furtive.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:39 AM
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16: I don't know what you're talking about at all, but I feel certain it epitomizes the tragedy of parenthood.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:42 AM
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When we were kids, we just threw rocks at birds. Now, that's all done with smartphones.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:45 AM
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Thank you, smartphones!


Posted by: Grateful Birds | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:47 AM
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Does this Pokething result in random agglomerations of people standing around peering at their phones? Because I'm getting more of those and they're kind of annoying.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:47 AM
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22: That's my theory.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:48 AM
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You only get agglomerations is somebody has used a lure.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:48 AM
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So will the agglomerations get eaten by some higher predator, once more opening thoroughfares for actual walking?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:50 AM
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No.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:51 AM
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The apex predators are the people standing around looking at their phones.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:52 AM
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27 is unsettlingly profound.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 11:54 AM
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"The apex predators are the people standing around looking at their phones."

Maybe not:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/22/nyregion/civil-libertarians-skeptical-of-rule-banning-sex-offenders-from-pokemon-go.html


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 12:15 PM
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I would actively recruit muggers for the game if it dispersed the mobs of pokezombies. With some skill you could grab a dozen iphones without even getting off your bike.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 12:23 PM
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Has anyone explored the idea that 12-step stuff creates a Rat Park-like mental space for humans? Human Park.


Posted by: Clytaemnestra Stabby | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 1:07 PM
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Whaddya think I brought my rat-faced granny along to hold my hand?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 1:32 PM
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For anyone who cares, Dockside turned out to be a pretty good pot-buying experience. Cheerful gal who could have been a Starbucks barista guided me through the extensive menu and seemed knowledgeable and sincere in her enthusiasms. I got a little bit of a nod and a wink from her at my out-of-state driver's license and my request for a plain paper bag (the default is a store branded bag like you might get at Nordstroms, only for weed). Haven't tried the product yet, but based on the buying experience, I'm kind of blown away at how much I love legal recreational marijuana.


Posted by: Midnight Toker | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 4:51 PM
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It was not lost on me that I was the equivalent of the dude who goes into a boutique wine shop and says "I'd like something red, or maybe white. Something that tastes good with food."


Posted by: Midnight Toker | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 5:03 PM
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"The Ripple 2016 is very popular, sir."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 5:11 PM
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It reminds me of those studies that show that the rats can skip a heroin dose when they've got a happy enriched environment with no ill effects.

I wouldn't advise thinking you can dodge withdrawal with a trip to Romper Room.

But I'm a little wary because, for whatever reason, "stories of addiction" push an emotional button for me

I'm a bit wary because often people doing this kind of project tend to just transcribe these people's stories without taking into account that a lot of addicts are ridiculous bullshitters. That said, he doesn't seem atrocious on that front.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 9:21 PM
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There's a post of his where he talks about an addict that he kept giving things like clothing, food, or other necessities and how she would pretty much always use whatever he gave her to score drugs, so now he just gives her cash if he gives her anything at all. Like you said, it's really difficult to do this in a humanizing way without being naive, but Arnade does it pretty well, I think.

Anyone who checks his Twitter will find that he's more than a bit sanguine about the motivations of Trump supporters, but that's a different story. Fun to watch Noah Smith argue with him about it though!


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 08-24-16 9:53 PM
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