Re: Some Tweets

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I think The Onion story about the supervolcano is better at capturing the moment.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-12-16 9:02 AM
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The call your legislator advice is good, though for those of us with representatives who mostly represent our views already, it's not going to be that much of an avenue for action.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-12-16 1:53 PM
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I would imagine, though, that knowing their constituents are calling up and raising hell would help even good reps keep their courage up and maintain an active stance. Still seems worth doing.


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 11-12-16 3:02 PM
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this title made me laugh

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/if-donald-trump-pardons-me-i-would-be-honored-serv-5140


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 11-12-16 7:08 PM
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Posted by: ez whip chargers | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 5:13 AM
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5: The escapism thread is one down. But that's a good suggestion anyway.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 5:38 AM
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agreed; commenter ez whip chargers is on the right track in the wrong thread.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 2:09 PM
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Whippets were the first drug I quit.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 6:11 PM
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My god, the storify thing again. We talked about this.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 11:52 PM
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Has any net good ever come out of Twitter? Even Ellickson gave up and essentially disavowed his whole project when Trump won.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 11:54 PM
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Wide dissemination of Biden memes.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-13-16 11:57 PM
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But to be serious, all the good that I've seen or heard of from specific people about twitter has been tied to smaller, more limited communities. I guess there's no general good to it.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:00 AM
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Well, that's probably true of all platforms, to be fair.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:03 AM
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I've been getting immense and very satisfying support for my Facebook posts, for instance, but it's obvious from what I see other people post that there's a lot of ugliness there too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:04 AM
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Facebook is a cesspool and only good for ferreting out associations between felons.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:08 AM
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See?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:10 AM
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And as bad as FB can get, surely Twitter is much worse.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:10 AM
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15 That's exactly why I'm not on it. You also won't find me falling for the free football tix.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:19 AM
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18: And yet you're on Twitter? Come on, man.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:20 AM
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I think twitter and facebook have qualitatively different kinds of worse. Twitter is subject to mobbing attacks and puts everyone at risk who tweets from a public account because anyone can be reached anywhere. Facebook generates more closed communities, which is probably makes it a better experience for most people at a personal, day-to-day level, but combined with the apparently huge amounts of links to fake news, there's less of an open community for people to push back and point out that no, the Pope didn't endorse Trump or whatever.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:21 AM
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Seriously though, at least on Twitter I don't have to see racist shit posted by relatives.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:22 AM
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FWIW, I don't think anywhere else I hang out on the internet has such an anti-twitter consensus as unfogged.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:24 AM
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Finally caught up to all the Unfogged comments. I am in utter despair and torn between wanting to hide in the art/film bubble and obsessive engagement over the latest outrage.

How do we stop the (literal) torture that Trump has promised? And everything else?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:27 AM
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I like Twitter. Although it has killed off some fine blogs I like as the bloggers migrated to Twitter.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:37 AM
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We protest, and we organize, and we vote. All three.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:37 AM
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But seriously, I've been spending all my emotional energy all weekend bucking up people on FB. I don't have enough left to buck up you people too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:40 AM
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Teo, the blog should be your first priority (after the people IRL of course.)


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:46 AM
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One thing I learned from FB is that nobody I know personally is a neo-Nazi. Even the Republicans are horrified.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:47 AM
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we stop the (literal) torture that Trump has promised

I don't know about you, but I'm not planning on writing any memos of the OLC.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:48 AM
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the people IRL

The what now?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:49 AM
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But seriously, my FB is remarkably devoid of stupid arguments, even once I started posting lots of political stuff. I have constructed a nice bubble there, and I'm going to live in it. Much as I love it, this place doesn't come close.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:50 AM
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Which is not to say that I'm leaving. But I'll probably be less involved in the stupid arguments than previously.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 12:51 AM
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Oh, come on. You were never involved enough in the stupid arguments.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:01 AM
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I sometimes was!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:03 AM
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I sure didn't like it, though.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:03 AM
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A state assembly member was just caught posting fake news to twitter, which she hasn't yet acknowledged doing. Her most recent tweet, however, is bragging about winning a bet with her husband over how she'd just posted a news story that is making liberals' heads explode. It's not clear if she means the fake story.

Her Facebook page is bland and inoffensive, at least in its public version. Point: Facebook.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:04 AM
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See?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:04 AM
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I spent all weekend getting into fights with friends-of-friends. I bucked up one friend who explicitly relies on me to buck her up (it's a long-established dynamic), but in general I don't see how to buck people up without potentially sounding like you're minimizing their anxiety.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:31 AM
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It's difficult, no question. There's a fine line you have to walk and it depends a lot on the exact composition of your friends list. What I've done is to just say what I think, publicly, and see what happens, trusting that I have enough white male privilege to absorb any attacks I get. To my surprise, I have not actually gotten any attacks yet. But again, it depends on who your friends are. People in certain other demographics won't be as lucky as me this way.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 1:39 AM
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40: the point here is that you do nobody a good turn by increasing it. Calm isn't the antithesis of action, it's a prerequisite of effective action.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 4:00 AM
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I forgot that airports play news constantly. It's too early in the morning to break my news boycott.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 4:30 AM
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I was in Heathrow T5 on Trump Morning and people were huddling around the big free-standing TVs to watch the news


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 4:36 AM
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I find Facebook is good for supportive discussion, at least in my bubble. But its doesn't support intelligent discussion very well. You definitely need to dumb-down your message as compared to this place.

Also, sometimes the Facebook algorithm turfs your posts for no apparent reason, or promotes the stupid shit unnecessarily. You end up talking thorough a very capricious filter.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 4:41 AM
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I steer clear of politics on Facebook. I have a lot of older English 'friends' I know through music who are Brexiteers, or at least Brexit-curious. I either have a zero politics policy 99% of the time, or I'd just spend my day unleashing furious invective. There's certainly no reasoning to be done there.

I still don't get it either, at least one of those people is a business owner whose entire business is selling services to the EU.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 5:11 AM
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44. They've been sold the line that "Britain will be able to make its own laws". It means nothing, but it sounds promising. If you wish to remain friends with them, i. don't ask them for an example of an EU "law" (they're all legislated by the British parliament, but don't go there either) that they want to be free of, or ii. ask them why they think the May government will be more small business friendly outside the EU than inside.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 5:46 AM
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Even so, that compares favorably to bringing back coal mining, or bringing heavy unionized manufacturing back to the upper midwest.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 7:36 AM
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Oops. First comment from a new laptop.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 7:37 AM
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Maybe in line with our new proletarian overlords, you should switch to WebTV.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 7:40 AM
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I assume that neither proposition in 46 would be feasible even if Trump were given dictatorial powers. Or at least they would required specifically Stalinist powers


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 7:54 AM
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Yes. With coal, it would either have to have massive subsidies or you'd have to dramatically raise the price of natural gas. And it's not like the natural gas people aren't a key part of the Republican coalition in Pennsylvania. And that's just to increase coal mining output. From that to mass employment would require featherbedding or forced reversion to really shitty mining techniques.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 8:02 AM
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And, reviving manufacturing in the U.S. would certainly be possible without dictatorial powers. But you'd need such powers to make any substantial portion be anything but minimum wage jobs in the south.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 8:04 AM
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As unpleasant as it is to engage, perhaps ceding the public sphere to the right-wing blowhards in your friends list isn't something we can afford anymore.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 8:08 AM
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So this is a funny story:

"Trump's victory reminds me of a classic anecdote from the early 19th century. After Napoleon returned from the island of Elba and began his march on Paris, a Parisian newspaper printed rather endemic editorials with such titles as 'The Corsican Monster Broke Loose and Landed in the Gulf of Juan', 'The Ogre is in Grasse,' 'The Usurper has entered Grenoble', 'Bonaparte captured Lyon,' 'Napoleon is closing in on Fontainebleau,' and then 'Today His Imperial Majesty will Arrive in his Loyal Paris and Hold a Banquet at the Tuileries Palace.' Follow the comments and publications in the Ukrainian media," Bondarenko wrote.


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 11-14-16 10:09 AM
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