Re: Dry Needling

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I thought "dry needling" had something to do with a vasectomy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 7:57 AM
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It's true that I quivered.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:07 AM
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"Quiverfull of Blanks" is would be a good name for a fundamentallist Christian vasectomy clinic.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:08 AM
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It's true that I quivered.

AND WELL MAY YOU DO SO! SITTING THERE WI' THE WEIGHT OF YOUR GODLESS SINS RESTING ON YOUR SHOULDERS! AYE, 'TIS NO WONDER THAT YOUR TRAPS ARE SORE UNDER SUCH A BURDEN!


Posted by: Reuben Starkadder | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:10 AM
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"Quiverfull of Blanks Tonight" should be sung to the tune of "Pocket Full of Kryptonite".


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:11 AM
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Nobody should sing anything to a Spin Doctor's tune.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:12 AM
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With that attitude, you're never going to be marketing director for the fundie Christian vasectomy clinic.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:23 AM
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That'll do, vas deferens. That'll do.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:26 AM
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You can't spell vas deferens without VD.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:36 AM
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Prescriptivist.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:39 AM
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Try it.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 8:55 AM
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"Try our venereal disease and if you aren't completely satisfied return it to Trump Tower for a full refund."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 9:09 AM
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When I got acupuncture in China, the guy said that proper acupuncture should feel tingly, like a little electric shock at the needle entry site. He said if I felt nothing or if it was really painful the needle had been inserted wrong, and I should tell him and he'd move it. Dry needling sounds like Chinese acupuncture.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 9:45 AM
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My son had a terrible reaction to dry needling, and thinks, 2 years later, that the bad needling is still causing pain.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 9:50 AM
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Has he tried to pull out the needle?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 9:52 AM
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Sorry to interrupt so early, but OMG, heebie, you could do this:

https://sites.tufts.edu/gerrymandr/

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Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:06 AM
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13: it sounds like dry needling involves the needle going rather deeper than acupuncture - is that right? Heebie makes it sound like you stick the needle right into the muscle. Acupuncture doesn't go that deep. Does it?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:09 AM
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Gerrymandr, the app that allows you to meet people in your area with different political views and carefully exclude them from power.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:12 AM
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Can anyone transliterate medieval farsi thx.

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Posted by: Clytie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:18 AM
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Specifically

نی قصه آن شمع چگل بتوان گفـت
نی حال دل سوخته دل بتوان گفـت
غم در دل تنگ من از آن است که نیست
یک دوست که با او غم دل بتوان گفت

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I liked dry needling. I think they ran electricity thru the needles too. I'm mostly better now!


Posted by: Clytie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:22 AM
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It says "Two pounds of butter, 1 gallon of milk, no cream this week."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:26 AM
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I know what is SAYS I just need to know how to pronounce it.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:27 AM
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this was way before 40 comments, sorry. I'm a clueless wreck lately! self ban.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:28 AM
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Very few things squick me. Dry needling videos squick the hell out of me.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:29 AM
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I thought "dry needling" at something to do with droll teasing.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:45 AM
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20 Hafiz!
My Persian is so rusty. Something about i cannot tell the story of that candle. Or rather how to tell the story of that candle. How to speak of the state of that heart that is cooked...*
(Old Sufi saying, I was raw, I became cooked, I became burnt. Referring to being consumed by divine love. The restwill haveto wait until I'm.sober and near my Persian grammar/dictionary, or Ogged chimes in.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:52 AM
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26: I think she just wants it transliterated, not translated. I don't know enough to help.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 10:55 AM
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This site has a Farsi transliterator. Not speaking for the quality of this at all:

na qsh an shm'e chegul btwan guft na hal dl swkhth dl btwan guft ghm dr dl tngu mn az an ast keh nast ake dwst keh ba aw ghm dl btwan guft

Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:04 AM
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Oh, there's a second level of processing, now with more vowels:

na qesh an shem' chegul betwan gufet na hal del sewkheth del betwan gufet ghem der del tengu men az an aset keh naset ak dewset keh ba aw ghem del betwan gufet

Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:06 AM
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Ah. 28 and 29 all wrong. What romanization system is desired? I prefer ALA-LC. And you'll need macrons for that.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:12 AM
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I think 28 and 29 just translated it into Welsh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:14 AM
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There's a ha' in the second word but it doesn't become an sh. It's qissah. With the ha' (or he) representing Arabic ta marbuta). Optional qesseh reflecting Persian pronunciation.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:15 AM
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You know what strike this all, can someone just tell me how to pronounce candle and ruby in Farsi at clytaemnestrastabby AT gmail DOT com and I can spare heebie's poor thread.


Posted by: Clytie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:16 AM
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I don't see ruby in the text (which I cn you an translate now having looked at it again)
Candle is "sham" short a like in bat. (Sorry, I suck at IPA, too bitter).
Ruby is yaaqoot. Long deep aa. Can you pronounce a qaf? That's so unhelpful. Sorry I suck.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:27 AM
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34.1 s/b I can now


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:27 AM
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Is there supposed to be a comma? "Sorry, I suck" is different from "Sorry I suck."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:28 AM
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36 Lemme get back to ya


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:30 AM
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30: Fair enough--not surprised some random thing I found on the internet is awful. My bad.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:33 AM
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There's a store near the Squirrel Cage that sells macrons.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:35 AM
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I'm looking at that with my head tilted trying to figure out if it's a strained acorn joke, or a strained macaroon joke.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:38 AM
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20: That site is way off. It's been a while and I can on only do two lines in my head, but here goes:

Halakh bikba sana ka nalai/
ēw-uda brudar kan dīnai

I seem to recall poetry of this form typically had a prefatory call that you appear to be missing.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:40 AM
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If you knew that street better, you wouldn't need to ask.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:40 AM
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I'm just saying that as the commenter tasked with identifying bad puns? Your performance is under review.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:41 AM
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I don't think that counts as a pun.

Anyway, the macaroon store is the Frenchiest place I've ever been in my life and I've been to Paris.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:44 AM
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16: That looks SO COOL.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:47 AM
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20 I don't see that anywhere in the Persian text.
Which is to say there is a vas deferens.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:51 AM
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Dry needling from physical therapists worked for me, regular treatment, neck and trapezius muscles completely locked up after an accident followed by surgery.

Here there are separate licensing authorities for acupuncture and dry needling, with conflict between practitioners.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:55 AM
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I just emailed to be put on the mailing list.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 11:57 AM
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AIMHMHB, I've had dry needling done a fair bit and I find it effective. Upper traps are actually one of the places that I have to get it. It's one of the more twitchy and sensitive areas - the physio removes the needles straight away afterwards whereas with some of the others she leaves them in for a few minutes.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 12:03 PM
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Huh. My wife has been complaining about a stiff and painful neck muscle for months now (massage made it worse), and this seems like it's up the right alley. On the other hand, her previous reaction to acupuncture (and subsequently a few other needle-y things) was near-fainting (vasovagal syncope).


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 12:08 PM
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That would be such an amazing way to be involved and use real expertise to be influential.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 12:23 PM
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There are other mathematicians here, right?


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 12:23 PM
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I should publicize it on Facebook, but what if my friends from grad school take my spot?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 12:25 PM
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I think some of the transliteration engines you'll find easily apply a super-naive letter-to-letter transposition. If Thai is anything to go by. (Google Translate transliterates ทหาร as "Thh̄ār", so it neglects the root vowel "a" of the first letter as well as the fact that syllable-final "r" is always pronounced "n". Pretty basic stuff, and it indicates they're not actually trying to incorporate spelling rules.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 1:34 PM
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This is clearly the right thread to say that I spent all day at children's hospital and whatever Mara does seem to have, it's not obviously idiopathic arthritis, yay! But it's also obviously causing hot swollen joints, so that part is not so yay but also not news. She had a full workup done by the rheumatology physical therapist and whoa. It was amazing to watch the measurements of how far everything can move and how to custom-fit her orthotics and so on. Plus everyone is just so nice, although the best part was definitely when Mara hopped on my lap and as I said "Please don't knock over my coffee" she did just that and then the two med students ran around trying to clean it up and then one of them knocked it over again in the process. But a doctor who can see her somewhat odd history and have read and processed it already and be ready to roll with it is a gem, and we definitely got one. We'll see her again in three months if everything stays at least tolerable and if not then sooner.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 1:58 PM
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Best of luck on that. I know that rheumatology can sometimes be a whole process of figuring out what the issue is.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:05 PM
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[A] doctor who can see her somewhat odd history and have read and processed it already and be ready to roll with it is a gem, and we definitely got one.

That sounds like a huge, positive, step.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:12 PM
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Ive heard lots of good things about dry needling.

Since this is apparently the "we are old with aches" thread, I am still not walking correctly from my meniscus surgery. Getting old sucks.

I am off crutches and finally out of the brace. But stairs are still difficult.

Worst of all, my brother has gotten into the best shape of his life while I am out of shape and limping.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:14 PM
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You could try the "Tonya Harding" solution to that problem.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:17 PM
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57: Yeah, she's also a funny, charming, charismatic black woman. (As someone for Mara to look up to, I mean; she was wearing a ring!) Thanks for the support, guys. It's been really stressful to care for a child who's hurting, especially this one who ought to have maxed out her lifetime hurt limit ages ago. I'm really hoping the new dose on her NSAID will help and help quickly.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:24 PM
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Nine rings for the rheum queens doomed to watch kids cry.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:26 PM
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45, 48: Hooray!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:40 PM
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"we are old with aches" thread
May I say that after having torn my left Achilles tendon almost 7 years ago, only now is my left calf muscle getting nearly as strong and defined as my right. Two years of yoga three times a week may have been the proximate cause. Or my right calf is just getting progressively weaker....


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 2:56 PM
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8 and 18 both made me laugh.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 3:25 PM
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Could someone fix 4 to Amis? It's making me itchy.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 3:48 PM
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Amos. And ditto.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 4:02 PM
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46 did not go unnoticed. Get after him, Moby. A rose has fallen from your chaplet (Robert Bruce to Andrew Moray at Bannockburn, 1314; best way ever for a general to inform a subordinate that he has cocked things up.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 4:08 PM
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66: God, sorry. Unforgivable mistake. I ban myself.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 4:14 PM
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A rose has fallen from your chaplet (Robert Bruce to Andrew Moray at Bannockburn, 1314; best way ever for a general to inform a subordinate that he has cocked things up.)

Sometimes generals can heap on the praise, e.g. Wellington to Sir Stapleton Cotton at Salamanca, 1812:

"By God, Cotton, I never saw anything so beautiful in my life; the day is yours."


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 4:33 PM
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Oops - 69 was me. Not sure how Wellington would have dealt with Moby. Possibly would have tried dry needling.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 5:00 PM
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55: Yay for doctors! Also, Mr. Robot is feeling progressively better following last week's crisis, and I am optimistic about our ability to avoid that sort of thing in the future.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 6:54 PM
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71, 55 - yes yes yes. Welcome good news.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 02- 2-17 7:29 PM
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55 is great news, even if there's a way to go yet. So is 71.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02- 3-17 4:56 AM
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Great news from Thorn and J, Robot, so glad to hear it.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 3-17 6:53 AM
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ajsy joke was too good not to fix! thorn thanks for typo fix and yay re doc also to j robot. For thorn's daughter, keep an eye on the pt and don't hesitate to switch until you find one who is good and provides relief, variation amongst them extreme in my exp.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 02- 3-17 12:59 PM
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