Re: The election is becoming the past.

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You left out Reagan blocking the release of the hostages in Iran until after he was in office.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 7:48 AM
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I would guess that the worse Trump gets, the more people who voted for him will remember the faults of Obama and Clinton. Because it's much easier to for them to remember "Crooked Hillary" than to acknowledge they are shitheads who deliberately voted for an obvious racist loon in order to save 5% or their taxes or whatever.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 7:54 AM
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It's going to go down as an open secret that the Kremlin plus Comey illegally tipped the election, the same way that Nixon sabotaged the peace talks to end the Vietnam War

What did you expect would happen when an autocratic pro-Russian candidate who benefited from the intervention of the FBI took over the executive branch?

As for Steele, the impression I got at the time of the release was that the press had taken it as far as they could go in terms of the underlying info, which wasn't very far.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 7:57 AM
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As far as businesses go, I think this will probably work out like the bankruptcy bill the banks pushed for that was then a key part of giving them enough rope to hang themselves.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:02 AM
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I think the big question is whether Trump just likes Putin because he likes tough guys or whether Putin has legit kompromat on Trump. Either way Trump is a sucker for Putin, but if some kompromat was leaked I'm pretty sure we could get an impeachment.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:09 AM
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Maybe someone who is a lawyer can explain Washington v. Trump to me. It seems like it has the potential to be a landmark. Can a state really sue the federal government on behalf of its citizens? What about in cases where the federal government is being a huge asshole?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:22 AM
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I would guess that the worse Trump gets, the more people who voted for him will remember the faults of Obama and Clinton. Because it's much easier to for them to remember "Crooked Hillary"...

I kind of doubt this. I mean the rejoinder at this point is yeah, "Crooked Hillary,"what'd she do again?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:27 AM
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If that mattered at all to anybody who voted for Trump, the Democrats would control the White House and both houses of Congress.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:38 AM
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Because it's much easier to for them to remember "Crooked Hillary"...

They're not going to remember her at all.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:39 AM
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The worse Trump gets, the more they will remember her. The same way unexecuted Nazis always always talked about how they felt they needed to stop Communism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:43 AM
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11 The way we will remember freedom, HBO, and bread when we're in the camps?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:45 AM
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Imagine a boot stepping on a human face and the human is on Atkins.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:47 AM
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Halford still hasn't come back. I can talk about bread all I want.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 8:52 AM
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I agree that no one is going to remember Crooked Hillary as a thing. This Trump mess is going to explode or implode or impeach or start WWIII, and that's all anyone will remember.

Fun fact: When WWIII does start, everyone will mistype it as WWW, because "w" and "3" is too close cognitively to worldwideweb.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:18 AM
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"Uncertainty" = racism? Or the slightest hint of regulation? Or what?


Posted by: Frostbite | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:21 AM
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'uncertainty'=hard money bullshit. They said the same things in Europe to promote austerity.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:28 AM
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What the etiquette on linking tweetstorms? Mieke Eoyang's current one on Sen. Warren is worth a read.

(FYI: ME is an actual serious well informed person.)


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:31 AM
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Fun fact: When WWIII does start, everyone will mistype it as WWW, because "w" and "3" is too close cognitively to worldwideweb.

And now we have autocorrect to learn and keep the mistake. Our final moments as the mushroom clouds loom and the blast wave approaches will be spent cursing autocorrect and hitting the backspace key on our phones.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:34 AM
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"Crooked Hillary,"what'd she do again?

She violated good practices on email management. Also, BENGAZI! In which she personally murdered an Ambassador with her bare hands.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:39 AM
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18: Mate. The electromagnetic pulse (and initial radiation for those of us lucky enough to be close in) will fry the phone before the blast gets there. It's as if you hadn't checked Glasstone's The Effects of Nuclear Weapons before posting!

On the actual OP, I think there's an obvious reason why the papers aren't working with C/hristopher S/teele - he's keeping the lowest profile that ever low'd. One plausible candidate for his source in Russia has already shown up dead in suspicious circumstances, the Russians are doing a major internal security inquiry, and it's not even as if the Russians are the only threat to the poor bastard.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:43 AM
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She violated good practices on email management

If only this convinced everyone to turn on two-factor authentication...


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 9:44 AM
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I've been listening to the Revolutions podcast, and I'm struck by the congruencies between Emailgate/Benghazi (?) and the Necklace Affair. All the evidence was that Marie Antoinette was not virtually but thoroughly faultless - con artists had been impersonating her in various ways - but people seized on it to justify opinion of her as a satanic manipulator.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:01 AM
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I used to think Trump was being handled by the Russians, but the IC promoting that idea now has caused me to doubt.

If Trump were really compromised getting that information out would be way more important than any sources or methods they might be protecting. They haven't released anything that constitutes strong evidence so I don't think they have any. Plus with their track record it just makes sense to always assume they are lying.


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:14 AM
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If Trump were really compromised getting that information out would be way more important than any sources or methods they might be protecting

A great message for any intelligence services to send to their agents is "hey, if you manage to find anything really good for us, we'll burn you and get you killed".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:19 AM
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The "IC" aren't the ones saying the Russians have kompromat. In fact, they explicitly said they couldn't back up the claims in the dossier.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:24 AM
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Does anybody who isn't an intelligence agent use the word "dossier"?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:25 AM
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25: in that case, using patented Roger Logic, it must be true! Unless... that's what they want us to think...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:25 AM
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Post-Snowden you'd have to assume Americans will get you burned and killed regardless.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:27 AM
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This was the best thing I've read on the dossier.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:29 AM
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28: did Snowden burn any sources? Methods, yes.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:29 AM
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Does anybody who isn't an intelligence agent use the word "dossier"?

It's used to describe legislative files in the EU.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:36 AM
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Just the word makes me want to get on a boat and hunt down Marlon Brando.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 10:38 AM
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It's used to refer to the files you send when you apply to academic jobs.


Posted by: Ponder Stibbons | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 11:10 AM
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Does anybody who isn't an intelligence agent use the word "dossier"?

Only those of us who scored above 350 on the verbal section of the SAT.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 11:27 AM
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Data that goes with medical device regulatory applications.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 12:04 PM
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How many people with verbal SATs over 350 have to be on the regulatory application?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 12:08 PM
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33: Which country/field are you talking about? In America/science, I only ever sent "application packages."

(Hm. Could this be why I am now employed in the UK?)


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 12:18 PM
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Of course. They just assumed you were mailing them malware.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02- 7-17 7:45 PM
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