Re: ICE Officials

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Right -- the linked story looks like ICE is deliberately attempting to create exactly the atmosphere gswift was arguing against, where undocumented immigrants are afraid to interact with the police at all.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 8:44 AM
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11 million people afraid to interact with law enforcement -> Crime goes up -> Trump uses rising crime to justify stricter enforcement. Winning!
See the AP story this morning that the admin considered activating 100k national guard troops for immigration enforcement.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 8:47 AM
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The National Guard thing is pretty terrifying an idea too, although now they're denying it, so conceivably it's one of those things that was leaked to help prevent it being a reality, like the LGBT rights EOs? (Also it comes from Kelly, so great "steadying hand" there.)

I want to acknowledge the particular constitutional crisis I was worrying about, that CBP was flat out refusing to enforce the court orders, seems to have fizzled out. The contempt of court complaint in Virginia is still there, but the Republican administration has more or less acknowledged that the court orders have authority and need to be heeded.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:13 AM
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Saw something pointing out the date on the memo is from Jan 25 when they were busy rolling out all the crazy stuff and before the big pushback on the travel ban EO.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:16 AM
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One of the executive orders authorizes the deportation of immigrants who have "committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense." You don't even have to be charged.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:17 AM
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5. That should be "Are thought to have committed acts..." Because unless you charge them and prove the charges to the satisfaction of a court, then whether they've committed the acts remains moot. And thereby hangs a tail.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:21 AM
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Now folks on Twitter are wringing their hands about whether the AP was justified in saying the administration is "considering" the idea. Very much puzzles me, because if it's in such a high-level memo at all, it is or was being considered in a real sense by definition.

Then I guess the other interpretation of intent is that it's to spread fear among immigrant community.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:24 AM
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2: Another thing: if The Wall ever actually happens one of Mexico's levers is to stop interdicting migrants from Central America. Build a wall, get more migrants. Win!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:35 AM
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I want to acknowledge the particular constitutional crisis I was worrying about, that CBP was flat out refusing to enforce the court orders, seems to have fizzled out.

This had scared the bejesus out of me, so I'm very relieved for the time being.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:58 AM
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Wtf?

https://gutierrez.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/guti-rrez-being-asked-leave-ice-meeting-capitol-speaker-ryan-and

(I'm on my phone.)


Posted by: Heebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 10:44 AM
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"any further meetings with ICE officials would have to be cleared by the Republican Judiciary Committee Chairman"
I'm pretty sure that's not how Congress works.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 10:54 AM
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Or this!

http://jezebel.com/ice-agents-target-hypothermia-shelter-in-a-church-to-ar-1792434913


Posted by: Heebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 11:09 AM
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If you keep posting all these mean things about ICE from your phone they might call CBP to take it away the next time you're within 100 miles of a border.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 11:40 AM
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I bet over half of us are within a 100 miles. It looks like I work within 100 miles but maybe live outside of 100 miles.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 11:49 AM
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Just don't bring any electronics to work, no problem.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 11:51 AM
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I have a bleg about the application that Megan posted here a few weeks ago. It's a google form, so the short answers window is only a single line, which then expands as you type. So the organizers have not tipped their hand as to the length of answers they expect.

For questions like:
"Please elaborate on your background as pertains to this track. Include relevant publications."
"While we are not limiting this track to mathematicians, we do plan to develop mathematical ideas for expert testimony. Please describe your fluency with geometric ideas (e.g., convexity, curvature, isoperimetric inequalities, entropy, moments of inertia)."
"Describe your public speaking experience, including a few examples "

Are these single paragraph answers? Or rather, if my baseline answer is a single paragraph, should I expand it to match what other applicants are likely to do?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 12:09 PM
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"I have developed a truly marvelous fluency in this area, which this text box is too narrow to contain."


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 12:21 PM
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These crazy people are making me update my CV. I mean, this is really a lot to ask. Also, my LaTeX program has a CV template that I'm using which belongs to one of our own, and thus I'm erasing and replacing a lot of sociology articles with many, many fewer math ones.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 12:33 PM
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"I have developed a truly marvelous fluency in this area, which this text box is too narrow to contain."

If you were truly fluent with geometric ideas you'd be able to find a way to make it fit. You walked right into their trick question.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 12:50 PM
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It's really becoming clear that I don't work that hard, as I update this.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 12:59 PM
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You mean because you keep commenting in this thread instead of diligently completing the application?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 1:25 PM
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Hey, there's like over 20 minutes in between comments! That's pretty good for a task that is causing me emotional distress as I face my inadequacies as a scholar.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 1:56 PM
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22: I'm updating my research and teaching statements for a long-shot job so I understand!


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 2:00 PM
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My hunch is that they won't proceed beyond a certain level of deportation because to do so would be horribly disruptive to business. But what would _not_ be disruptive to business is if immigrant workers lived in even greater fear of doing anything at all about bad labor conditions. And also if people on guest worker visas were even more afraid of being fired and losing their visas than they already are.


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:30 PM
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My hunch is that they won't proceed beyond a certain level of deportation because to do so would be horribly disruptive to business. But what would _not_ be disruptive to business is if immigrant workers lived in even greater fear of doing anything at all about bad labor conditions. And also if people on guest worker visas were even more afraid of being fired and losing their visas than they already are.


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 02-17-17 9:30 PM
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I know the people running that! They're all great. I was thinking about applying, but I hear it's getting lots of interest so now I'm on the fence. I'd only write a paragraph myself, but I don't know what other will do. I'm not at all a geometer, so I don't know that I'll be qualified.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 6:14 AM
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I am feeling super unqualified myself, because I do so little research. But I badly want to do it. There's supposed to be a regional conference in Texas at some point in the future, which is probably a better fit for me, but I still would really love to do this one.


Posted by: Heebie | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 7:35 AM
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Pence just gave a major foreign policy address in Europe. I think he's trying to consolidate their support for his upcoming coup. He didn't even mention the EU, which is an interesting signal to the various Brexit and LePen-type factions.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 9:37 AM
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28 Pence just gave a major foreign policy address in Europe. I think he's trying to consolidate their support for his upcoming coup.

What makes you say that? It's not at all unusual for the VP to address such conferences.

I'm afraid it's just going to be this for the next four years. Four years of crisis. Nothing to save us but ourselves pushing back on the streets and in the Congressional suites, not impeachment, not the 25th amendment, or anything else.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 9:44 AM
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According to the Groan, he was basically telling them they'd have to pay more if they wanted America to stay in NATO. Doesn't sound like a good way to rally support for a coup.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 9:45 AM
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Thus


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 9:47 AM
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Fuck


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:22 AM
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Spiegel editorial:

Trump, after all, is a symptom of the crisis in the West, not its cause. America remains a possible partner for Europe, but it is no longer a reliable one. Wolfgang Ischinger, head of the Munich Security Conference, rightly warned Europeans not to write America off as a partner. That would be premature. But it would also be reckless and naïve if Europe were not to prepare for the fact that it can no longer unconditionally rely on the United States.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:25 AM
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Yes. Trump's election has ended the post WW2 security arrangements fit better or worse. Almost certainly for the worse. Even if he were impeached tomorrow and replaced with Harry T Truman, it's done.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:35 AM
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Fit should be for.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:35 AM
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I'm sure it had to end at some point, but ending because it didn't help the white American middle class seems really unexpected.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:59 AM
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Post-Deluge, not so much. I'm seeing America more and more as basically a backward country ruled by profoundly unenlightened self-interest, with the New Deal to Nixon period an aberration. The scale of things built in that period is such that the world could coast on the momentum for decades, but without conscious maintenance shit breaks.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 11:11 AM
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I'd put the break point at Reagan.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 12:17 PM
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Fair. I chose Nixon because the Southern strategy was the end of the New Deal coalition.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 12:21 PM
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To be fair, the New Deal coalition was willing to accept a ton of open racism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 12:36 PM
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Gotta end NATO. It's the only way to (a) bring coal mining back to Pennsylvania and West Virginia and (b) lower health insurance deductibles and premiums.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 1:52 PM
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As a "fear campaign" these examples are underwhelming. Maybe the 23 year old isn't gang affiliated but given the dad has narc trafficking convictions and eight deportations under his belt gang affiliation is a real possibility and I won't making judgement on a few proclamations by a defense lawyer.

And the woman getting the protective order? She has six prior deportations and a multi year criminal history with multiple crimes of violence as well as theft. She's a perfectly legitimate target for deportation.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 2:53 PM
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Stupid Jews, keep breaking the laws. Don't they know that could get them in trouble?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 4:14 PM
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CNN, having learned nothing, is running Trump's whole rally without comment.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 4:18 PM
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There's no way this ends without having tried all this nonsense right down the rabbit hole.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 4:23 PM
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Maybe we could try to get through this month without anyone actually accusing anyone else of being a Nazi?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 5:18 PM
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It's the shortest month.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 5:32 PM
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My sister's Scotch with too much peat has grown on me now that I finished the bottle. I'm reluctant to open the fancy Scotch because it won't taste like burning moss.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 9:53 PM
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And I'm all out of moss to burn.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:06 PM
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I do have a bottle of Chivas and a twelve of Belgian beer. The rest of my family is fancier than I am.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:12 PM
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I can singe myself a little if really necessary.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:17 PM
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Thanks but I'm guessing the flavor would be wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:26 PM
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48 I like peaty Scotch. What is it?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:28 PM
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We also have a bottle of Kaluha (sp?), which I'm fairly sure nobody in the house will drink.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:29 PM
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It was Buchanan. Now it's empty.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:30 PM
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Anyway, I'll drink Kaluha only after the vanilla extract is gone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:32 PM
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Ok, fine. Jeez.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:33 PM
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Nobody will admit to bringing in a bottle of Kaluha and everybody with diagnosed memory impairments doesn't buy liquor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:44 PM
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Or at least everybody who was so diagnosed before the Kaluha appeared.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:45 PM
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Barry, if you're into peaty scotch you ought to try Laphroig if you haven't.


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:47 PM
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B.K.E. is a common dating system here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:48 PM
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We buy our booze at a place called "Hy-Vee." It's hard to even go in there and not come out with Busch Light Draft and Boone's Farm.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:54 PM
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60 I have and I like it a lot.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 10:57 PM
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Hey Barry, we saw Bright Lights at the festival last night. Better than I thought it would be.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 11:01 PM
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64 oh good. I've heard good things but have yet to see it.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 11:04 PM
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Hy-Vee was my local in Iowa City but I think it mostly yielded Leinenkugel's and Rolling Rock. Also in winter the produce section shrank to an infinitesimal point.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 11:07 PM
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Todd Fisher came to introduce it, and take questions afterwards. Helped alot, I think, at normalizing.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02-18-17 11:29 PM
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48, 60. Second Laphraoig as a posh peaty whisky. Also Ardbeg. You can pay >$400 for a bottle of 30 year old Talisker if you want. What's the posh one you have?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 3:43 AM
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62: You should try a Brew-Thru.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 4:20 AM
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46: Maybe people could refrain from saying things that earn the comparison? Just a thought.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 5:49 AM
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re: 68

Southern Islay whiskies, basically.

I don't think Buchanan (reading, it seems to be a well-regarded blend* more popular in the US and South America than in the UK) is going to be as hardcore as Laphroaig.

* not a value judgement on my part, the only two whiskies I currently have in the house are both blends.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 10:05 AM
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My sister probably just asked the clerk at the HyVee, which is a more robust process than the Koch brother who collects wine used to select his purchases.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 10:20 AM
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The good HyVee. Not the best HyVee, but not one of the crappy ones.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 11:42 AM
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The narcissism of small differences.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 6:27 PM
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Well, they closed the IGA closest to here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 6:33 PM
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I'm watching "The Third Man". It's pretty good.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:07 PM
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It's not as funny as Airplane and the zither stuff gets old, but still pretty good.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:10 PM
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Why do other places' grocery store names always sound so ridiculous and anachonistic?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:13 PM
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The little murderer-denouncing boy is great.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:15 PM
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Apparently every person in Vienna knows each other.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:19 PM
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It's very good and I still haven't seen Orson Wells.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:26 PM
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I think more people should know about this Graham Green guy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:27 PM
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Surprise Orson Wells.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:32 PM
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It's kind of hard to imagine how these Austrians managed to survive a world war, let alone start one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:42 PM
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The joke about how the Swiss had 500 years of peace acc only created the cuckoo clock is in this.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:49 PM
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She didn't get on the train.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:53 PM
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The babies.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 7:58 PM
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500 years of peace is Swiss propaganda.

For example, the Second Battle of Zurich where the French defeated the Russians, Austrians, and Swiss.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:00 PM
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Please. Can we not joke so soon after the Sweden incident?

#Neveragain #Viärallasvenskar #Dontletithappenhere


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:01 PM
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The guy who said it was apparently trying to justify murderer stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:03 PM
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Does Austria have some deep history with the Zither?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:04 PM
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Not to mention.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:06 PM
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This seems to be a regular beat for this writer. Stories by her since December include:

Conservative Talk Radio Stands by Trump Despite Turmoil

In Ban on Migrants, Trump Supporters See a Promise Kept

One Country, Two Tribes

On New Political Footing, Trump Believers Share His Day

Why 5 Trump Voters Are Going to the Inauguration

In a North Carolina Town, Terrorism Abroad Raises Apprehension


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:07 PM
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90. Yep. Creative destruction. Disrupt the drug market. Cuckoo!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:08 PM
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I can see why they wanted him to sell frozen peas.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:09 PM
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93: Was that for the other thread?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:11 PM
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This thread is chasing Orson Wells through the visually stunning sewers of Vienna.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:12 PM
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This movie is really great visually. More people should try this kind of filmmaking.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:15 PM
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96: yes


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:16 PM
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Now watch the Pinky and the Brain version: The Third Mouse.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:27 PM
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I don't know if that's on Netflix.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 8:55 PM
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What with all the police and the zones and the deporting the leading lady, that movie was kind of on topic.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 9:22 PM
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98 -- Yes yes yes.

the zither stuff gets old

Dead to me.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 9:39 PM
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I'm not worried. I'll just bury a different guy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 10:03 PM
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Mobes, have you seen Heavenly Creatures? Clips get a prominent role.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 10:23 PM
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I prefer my murderous lesbians to be a bit older than their teens.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-19-17 10:40 PM
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I prefer my murderous lesbians like I prefer my coffee...

...no, wait, I can't think of a good ending to that.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 2:37 AM
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I prefer my murderous lesbians like I prefer my coffee: infused with the spirit of the civet.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 2:57 AM
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The trouble with The Third Man is that today half of the audience wouldn't recognize Harry Lime as the villain.

He was a disruptive innovator and those darned pesky regulations were keeping him down! If we had free markets like God intended, the effective antibiotics would win out through competition. A few hospitals full of dead patients is a small price to pay.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 5:48 AM
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109: see also Biff Tannen, Mr Potter, Gordon Gekko, Col. Jessup...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 6:14 AM
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Rebuffed by liberal hate, Trump security consultant Alex Delarge said he had to resort to unconventional means of meeting women.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 6:21 AM
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106: I can work with that, but should probably go presidential first.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 6:44 AM
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The Third Man is so good. One of the best ideas on the internet is a response to the avclub's Q&A on What movie would you like to see remade, and by what director? Someone suggested (and I can't find it on the internet) a Spike Lee remake of The Third Man set in immediately post-Katrina New Orleans with Denzel in the Orson Welles role (and I think Will Smith in the lead role?). I wish I could find the pitch because it had a lot of great detail.


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The trouble with The Third Man is that today half of the audience wouldn't recognize Harry Lime as the villain.

Alas, I can picture the cuckoo clock speech getting a standing ovation in a college film society.


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113 is good, especially the suggestion of the de Toro "Forbidden Planet". Obviously most of my answers would be "Werner Herzog, as long as he is allowed to bring Klaus Kinski with him".

I think it would almost be more interesting to ask "what movie would you like to see remade by as many different directors as possible?" What concept would support the largest number of different but worthwhile productions?



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112: It never occurred to me before, given that it's hardly ever used for crimes, that "going presidential" might have been inspired by Point Break. Rad.


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What concept would support the largest number of different but worthwhile productions?

Actual cinema history suggests the story of Wong Fei Hung.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 8:39 AM
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Somewhat surprisingly, googling "most remade movie" doesn't yield a definitive answer. Robin Hood is a surprisingly strong contender, though.

It also depends on the definition of "remake". Dracula would be pretty high on the list except not every movie with Dracula in it counts as a remake. I'm pretty sure the one where he meets Abbot and Costello strays pretty far from Bram Stoker's vision.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 8:43 AM
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How many Dracula movies are actually worthwhile though?


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I would suggest the one actually called Bram Stoker's Dracula, but for the dawning realization that I just mentioned two Keanu movies in as many comments.


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118: Robin Hood, yes. And maybe some of Shakespeare. There must have been plenty of film versions of "Hamlet" and "Romeo and Juliet".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 8:54 AM
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I would suggest the one actually called Bram Stoker's Dracula,

Really? I mean, I guess it's worthwhile in that I don't wish it never existed, but equally I have no desire to ever see it again. The one good thing in it is the cut from a vampire being beheaded to a beef roast being carved.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02-20-17 8:58 AM
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Robin Hood is a surprisingly strong contender, though.

There are dozens of Robin Hood stories and the setting is such that it's easy enough to make up more. I'd say it more more like an unplanned series, as if Lucas had put the Star Wars universe into Creative Commons after the first three, than a series of remakes.


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122: Surely the cringeworthy love scene between Winona Ryder and Gary Oldman is the high point of that movie.


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113.2: Children of Men, Ghandi, Guys and Dolls


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NW of this parish has a handy article on the realities of Sweden, worth a read.

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