Re: Long way to go. Short time to get there.

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Who was the wit who dismissed the internet as "the CB radio of the 90s"? (S)he should be properly recognized in the bad predictions hall of fame.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:16 AM
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I remember someone telling me a very similar joke, but the punch line was that the person turned French Canadian. Highly offensive!

This version also offends me. Betty Ford was a CBer!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:18 AM
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We had two portable CBs when I was a kid. They're probably still in the basement.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:21 AM
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I think it's kind of amusing when the make-fun-of-stupid-group gets turned on a very small group in a way that is completely nonspecific.

Eg, a Texas Aggie asks another Texas Aggie, "Whatcha got there?"
Aggie #2 says, "It's a thermos."
Ag 1, "What's a thermos?"
Ag 2, "It keeps hot things hot, and cold things cold."
Ag 1, "Wow! Whatcha got in there?"
Ag 2, "Two popsicles and some coffee."

That sure says a lot about Aggies!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:22 AM
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I thought the IQ-sucking helmet was the internet, which seemed weirdly prescient.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:26 AM
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It was Twitter.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:28 AM
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Except twitter users won't even have a useful skill after the zombie apocalypse.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:32 AM
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When I heard the joke in the OP, the punchline was "Go Blue."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:38 AM
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What???? But I'm a Wolverine!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:39 AM
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Should I tell the joke more slowly?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:43 AM
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14 characters at a time.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:46 AM
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Go blue.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:47 AM
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Hacker lingo has some substantial overlap with CB lingo -- pseudonyms are known as "handles", for instance -- in part because the CB radio scene and the ham radio scene overlapped, and computer nerd hackers are a pretty direct evolution from ham radio nerd hackers. So the sort of late '70s redneck stereotype doesn't really capture the full flavor of the scene, I don't think. I also wonder if there was something of an anti-labor bias in contemporaneous anti-CB stereotypes, since CB gained its cultural currency via its use in labor actions.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:48 AM
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Sifu!


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:49 AM
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since CB gained its cultural currency via its use in labor actions

Like in the song "Convoy"?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:50 AM
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I thought CB was used mostly by truckers coordinating their serial killing.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:53 AM
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That's just in the movies. Real trucker-serial killers work alone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:56 AM
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There's some interesting country songs from the 70s that are so pro-labor/working class. They're clearly the ancestors of the songs now that fetishize calloused hands and a hard day's work, but the piece about being exploited by the boss and having to unionize has been lost to the culture wars.

The only one I can think of right now doesn't quite work - it's the Alabama song "Forty Hour Week" but it still somehow sounds like something that couldn't be written today by a country musician.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:57 AM
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Even when they elaborately ambush honeymoon couples?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:00 AM
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"Working 9 to 5" probably launched a fetish of being tied-up by Dolly Parton.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:01 AM
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It's all taking and no giving.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:03 AM
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Like you said, culture wars.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:06 AM
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I think the problem is from "They Live." The white working class thinks it's Roddy Piper and must beat the non-white working class into submission before the combined working class can take on the aliens/wealthy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:11 AM
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computer nerd hackers are a pretty direct evolution from ham radio nerd hackers.

And model train enthusiasts . . .

There's some interesting country songs from the 70s that are so pro-labor/working class.

I should be able to think of some of those. Though the first thing that comes to mind is "Dark As A Dungeon" which isn't country and isn't from the 70s.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:12 AM
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WHILE ALL THE TIME BEING NOTHING BUT PUPPETS FOR THE JEWS WHO RUN HOLLYWOOD.


Posted by: MEL GIBSON | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:12 AM
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Frank probably had a whole different pair of metaphorical sunglasses that could have opened Nada's eyes about racism. Instead of a quid pro quo on sunglasses-wearing, Nada opts for a big fight. Not that the fight didn't make for a great scene.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:14 AM
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Back in the 70s everyone agreed that the working class was white so it was easier for them to be pro-labor. It got more complicated when minorities started asserting that they also held jobs.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:15 AM
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Isn't the OP punchline more about truckers than CBers generically?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:15 AM
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27: I think that's a lot of it. Especially since all the crab about government workers being lazy really amped up about the time the government starting hiring black people for jobs above janitor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:17 AM
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The crab was spreading lots of crap.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:19 AM
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That's just in the movies. Real trucker-serial killers work alone.

Because otherwise they'd be parallel killers, and while you can have a parallel bus, there's no such thing as a parallel truck.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:25 AM
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Not exactly politically pro-labor, but the sort of country song where you can see pro-labor from there.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:26 AM
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23: My takeaway from "They Live" was that bubblegum is the true opiate of the masses. Roddy Piper wouldn't have started kicking ass if only he hadn't run out of bubblegum.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:27 AM
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Also not quite politics, but closeish.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:27 AM
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That's deep. I used to be much less concerned about politics when I was a teenager who chewed gum. Now that I'm middle aged and do not chew gum, I worry about it all the time.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:28 AM
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And also this.

But I've lost track of why I'm finding working-class anthem country songs.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:30 AM
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Things you do without quite knowing why explicitly is a good definition of "culture."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:32 AM
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A different oldtimer was complaining about the bar scene downtown, and how all the sidewalks get covered with black disks from the gum-chewing college kids.

I associate sidewalks covered with blackened gum with high school, and had never noticed the downtown sidewalks until it was pointed out to me.

This has to be a side-effect of the decrease of smoking, right? Like, we're going to get our oral fixation by hook or by crook, dagnabbit?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:34 AM
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I think of blackened gum on the streets as steady-state. There was plenty when I was a teenager and NYC was entirely hidden by a layer of cigarette smoke.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:37 AM
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And also this.

I thought of that, but also not from the 70s (which matters a bit in that it's coming out of union music in the 40s).

Tom T Hall, "Ode to a half a pound of ground round" (1971) -- not pro-labor but definitely working class.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:41 AM
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Going further afield from actual working class politics, but I always thought Hank Williams Jr's "A Country Boy Can Survive" was the epitome of valorization of the ethos.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:03 AM
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I loathe that song.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:07 AM
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Does "Copperhead Road" count? It's too recent, I guess.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:11 AM
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42: Herrenvolk Will Survive.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:26 AM
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I had some experience with CBs in high school because I was part of a club that offered safe rides home from parties as an alternative to having them drive drunk or ride with a drunk driver. In the days before cell phones, we used a CB to keep the car in contact with the dispatch office. Of course during the time when the car wasn't out on a run, we played with the CB and made fun of truckers going by on the highway a couple miles away. We received a not insignificant number of threats in return.
I guess this doesn't say much about CB culture but says more about the fact that I was the kind of kid who sat in the school office Friday or Saturday nights from 10-2 offering rides home to peers who were out getting drunk.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:48 AM
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You could have started Uber.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 9:50 AM
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41m 42, 43: Yeah, looking at the lyrics to that, that's not working class, that's survivalist/prepper. And super creepy.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 10:00 AM
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I just want to say there's a bear taking pictures because I'd feel this thread would be incomplete without that line.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 10:47 AM
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My serious hacker friend who started in the eighties and still does smart radio said once that he had thought when he used it that cb would spread to the masses and become the kind of thing the conversational internet has become. I suppose that works out as"a bigger minority interest"


Posted by: Nw | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 11:14 AM
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My serious hacker friend who started in the eighties and still does smart radio said once that he had thought when he used it that cb would spread to the masses and become the kind of thing the conversational internet has become. I suppose that works out as"a bigger minority interest"


Posted by: Nw | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 11:19 AM
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Moral: don't post on trains


Posted by: Nw | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 11:20 AM
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The internet may have become bigger in the end, but CB radio inspired more movies and TV shows involving trucks and chimpanzees.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 11:26 AM
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Herrenvolk Will Survive.

I laughed out loud.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 12:36 PM
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I had a friend in high school who had a CB in his car for a while and used it to talk to random truckers. I don't remember any details beyond that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 3:09 PM
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A highschool girlfriend had a CB in her car. It was weird.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 7:53 PM
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It was ok, apparently real serial killers don't actually use CB at all.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-17 8:10 PM
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re: 43

Earle is a self-professed socialist, so I think reading some pro-labour feeling into his songs wouldn't be crazy.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 4-17 4:19 AM
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I remember CB radio. I never had one, but I did like the movie "Citizen's Band". The whole anonymity thing was very internet.


Posted by: Kaleberg | Link to this comment | 04- 4-17 9:37 PM
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