Re: Ask Yourself, Am I Adding Value?

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The Star Spangled Banner.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 12:03 PM
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1: That's not a great song!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 12:04 PM
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The consensus pick is likely to be Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, though I haven't got the time at the moment to hunt down a particularly egregious offender.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 12:07 PM
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My bed has terrible covers.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 12:21 PM
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OP is Bonnie Raitt libel.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:14 PM
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According to Wikipedia, "Girl from Ipanema" is the second-most recorded pop song of all time, and every version after Getz/Gilberto is terrible.

Also, any cover of a Roy Orbison song suffers from the comparison, but why would anyone even try to sing "Crying," which is built entirely as a showcase of his vocal ability? Even the pretty okay versions (Don McLean, kd lang) are failures.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:19 PM
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According to Wikipedia, "Girl from Ipanema" is the second-most recorded pop song of all time, and every version after Getz/Gilberto is terrible.

I agree in general but, one exception, Ella Fitzgerald singing, "Boy From Ipanema" is great.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:32 PM
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Most covers of Smells like teen spirit are pretty bad, but Patti Smith's is fantastic.

Redemption song maybe, since a lot of the covers are anemic.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:38 PM
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5 I have no idea at all what the OP is talking about. I kind of like the Tedeschi version myself, but there's no denying the Raitt version's quality.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:40 PM
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3: Mute sound before clicking through to the ranked list of 60 "Hallelujah" covers. I did like the Regina Spektor version. I guess it's a great song, but not, as the article points out, because Cohen himself brought out the best in it originally.

There's a local gypsy jazz ensemble that is playing hot club Beatles covers around town at the moment. I can't fucking imagine.

I have not amassed sufficient evidence to say, but I think probably every cover of "Because the Night" sucks compared to the original; every cover I've heard certainly does. (A great sentimental favorite of mine.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:45 PM
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Public Service Announcement: "Girl from Ipanema" is a powerful earworm antidote. (probably especially true if it's the Getz/Gilberto version playing in your head).

I have no doubt that the Ella Fitzgerald version is good, because Ella Fitzgerald, obvs. But the Nobody Else/Gilberto version from Gilberto's Live at Montreaux recording is a distilled concentrate of loveliness, for the record. Also a very potent earworm antitdote.

Also: 3 is correct. What's-his-name pretty dead singer did the only cover anybody needs to know about, and I wish everybody since would cut it out.


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 1:56 PM
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I didn't say all the covers were bad. I like the Tedeschi version a lot.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:06 PM
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11: Jeff Buckley.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:19 PM
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Do you count both Smith's and Springsteen's versions as original versions of 'Because the Night'?


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:19 PM
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My answer to the original question is 'Imagine'


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:22 PM
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Disqualified because it's fucking awful in the original


Posted by: Nw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:28 PM
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The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down is surely in a special category.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:30 PM
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Disqualified because it's fucking awful in the original

I was going to say, "Gentle On My Mind" but decided that, for as great as John Hartford is, the original isn't very good.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:32 PM
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Disqualified because it's fucking awful in the original

I hope some day you'll join us


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:34 PM
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16 is exactly right. I don't like any cover I've eve heard, but at least they're not the original.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:36 PM
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I don't like any cover I've eve heard, but at least they're not the original.

Imagine all the people, living life in peace


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:40 PM
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ah-ahhhhhh


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:49 PM
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18: Huh. I would go in the reverse direction and say that's a fine song, and that Hartford was well-served by Glenn Campbell. But I haven't heard either version in a long time.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 2:58 PM
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I have listened to both the original Imagine and a cover in the last week or so, and I sure do like that song. The idea of being against the idea of heaven is lovely and perfect and right-on.

Though the cover - from a tribute album, I forget by whom - wasn't so successful, nor have I ever heard an adequate cover.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 3:02 PM
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Joan Baez sang Imagine here last year. Or the year before. Didn't work for me, but I may be a little young for that . . .


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 3:42 PM
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So, Imagine is sweaty garbage balls, but it did allow this, which, while maybe not exactly either either a a cover or good, is very special.


Also, they took All Day off youtube, which is some bullshit.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 3:44 PM
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There's probably some kind of general rule about soul songs.

So, are there any good covers of "It's a Man's Man's Man's World"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Man%27s_Man%27s_Man%27s_World#Cover_versions

Like 'Hallelujah' it's a paradise of ersatz soul with over-sung melisma. It's a TV singing show staple.

There's loads of versions of 'Aint' not Sunshine' but none of them (Ed fucking Sheeran, John fucking Mayer) are a patch on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo

(Check the drummer! And the bassist sitting in an armchair)



Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 4:20 PM
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26.link: Holy shit! Youtube comments that are worth reading!


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 4:26 PM
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So, are there any good covers of "It's a Man's Man's Man's World"?

Ooh, that's good. Unsurprisingly, Ttam may have the best answer to the question in the OP.

Youtube comments that are worth reading!

I've found a surprising number of times when there are good comments on songs on youtube.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 4:37 PM
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I went to Ipanema one time. The girls were hottt, but what really struck me about the place that I hadn't realized before is that Ipanema is the richest neighborhood in Rio, and maybe even in all of Brazil.

Which I think changes the meaning of the song a bit. Instead of just being song about a sad sack who longs for this girl who won't give him the time of day, its also about being a poor, service-industry worker from the favela that wealthy people walk past but don't even see.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 4:55 PM
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Barry Manalow was woke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 5:02 PM
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Never mind. I'm thinking of the wrong song.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 5:05 PM
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Really? I was impressed. Few people know that the girl from Ipanema's first name is actually "Mandy."


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 5:07 PM
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Cohen's Hallelujah has been overdone, but has it been done especially badly?


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 5:20 PM
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27.1: We'll, there's The Residents, certainly.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 5:39 PM
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So, are there any good covers of "It's a Man's Man's Man's World"?

Yes: by the Happy Valley Band.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 6:04 PM
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Here's one of the worst reddit covers I've seen.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 6:15 PM
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27.1: There's no general soul-cover rule. Like all of modern Jamaican music came from soul covers. Here's a famous one. Alton Ellis did a bunch, as did Prince Buster, all sorts of people.


Also, The Committments was a good movie.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 6:49 PM
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It's a Man's Man's Man's World, as covered by the Happy Valley Band.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 7:20 PM
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Turn it up!

(String Cheese Incident with Peter Rowan)


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 7:30 PM
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That SCI concert comes up pretty often on my pod. Here's my second favorite tune, also a cover: Cold Rain & Snow

The best isn't a cover, but Rowan's ode to the pre-Columbian world: https://archive.org/details/sci1999-04-27.shnf/sci99-04-27d2/sci99-04-27d2t04.shn You really want this one loud.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 7:37 PM
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34: the animated elephant version comes to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzVTb17IuPc


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 7:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPmcnvAcbNA

I've linked this song before, but I think this is a much better recording. Listen, loud, and think about what might have been. Horns!


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 7:48 PM
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Most covers of Sweet Jane suck.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 8:41 PM
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30 is fascinating.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 8:41 PM
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The Cowboy Junkies nail Sweet Jane.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 9:28 PM
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Every time I read this post title I'm reminded of a prof I had who, talking about justifying some kinds of work to management, kept saying: "What's your value-add?"


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 8-17 9:33 PM
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Every cover is necessary. For example, here is a necessary kazoo-based cover of the Final Countdown, as well as a necessary ska cover of Gin and Juice. If you like Rolling in the Deep, here is 71 necessary covers in one.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 12:43 AM
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re: 38

I think the rule still generally holds. Fantastic Jamaican versions -- which I know, thanks to a bunch of excellent Soul Jazz/Trojan etc compilations -- not-withstanding.

Maybe the rule is something like, 'soul covers after 1980' or something.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 1:47 AM
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So, are there any good covers of "It's a Man's Man's Man's World"?

I have a soft spot for the musical Return to the Forbidden Planet, which this song features in. I suppose the quality of the cover is going to depend on the particular performance though.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 2:14 AM
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There are a lot of shitty covers of Bob Dylan songs, including many by Dylan.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 2:16 AM
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Sexual Healing. Can't think of any cover that changes anything for the better. The gold standard for me is "Respect" as covered by Aretha.


Posted by: manziket | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 3:06 AM
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I like this version of Sexual Healing, but its a remix, not a cover.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 3:57 AM
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Delroy Wilson x the Temptations. It's genius on genius.

On a similar theme, but with even more meta. The Beat do Tears of a Clown.

And then there's this.

Bonus fourth link: a photo I took walking along Ipanema last year.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/yorksranter/30136015393/in/album-72157676122520725/


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 4:38 AM
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"Hallelujah" is better by Jeff Buckley than by Laughing Len, but the version that changed the format and made it a better, more singable, song was by John Cale. He rescued it from oblivion.


Posted by: Dave Heasman | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 5:02 AM
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Another essential cover is Jackie Chan's cover of "I'll Make A Man Out of You", from Mulan.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 5:32 AM
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I'm rather fond of Nouvelle Vague doing "The Guns of Brixton".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 6:12 AM
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I have to say, not into the The Beat version at all. Then again, that's probably my least favourite of the well-known Smokey songs.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 6:24 AM
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I've always loved the Beat's version.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 6:25 AM
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54.last reminds me of how much I like the way Rio does their sidewalks.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 6:38 AM
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Sexual Healing.

This is an A+ suggestion. Just don't cover it, people. You won't make it better, and you won't be able to bask in its reflected glory, because it will just make you look JV.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 6:45 AM
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Piece of My Heart. Erma (original) or Janis (cover)? Personally I think both versions are great, and almost complementary. Dusty's version isn't contemptible either.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 7:03 AM
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Erma


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 7:05 AM
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Bacharach/David x Average White Band:

https://youtu.be/FqU4YPVRouA

Oh hell yes.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 7:13 AM
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The Joplin one is a version I've gradually come to dislike, even though it was the first one I heard. Dislike is maybe too strong a word. Become tired of, maybe.

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Do you know the George Benson (semi-instrumental) version? It's from a 60s album that's quite cheesy in bits, but has an amazing band on it. It's very of its time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvIZms-Eg8

The arrangement is nice, with the tight vocal harmonies. Good for inducing fear in guitar players, too.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 7:21 AM
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Happy Mondays vs. Bee Gees:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQd_41xNCE


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 7:26 AM
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John Lennon's Happy Christmas has tons of covers in Northern Europe. I've heard German, Norwegian, and Swedish versions. Even though the song is British, but the overly-earnest vaguely leftist schlockiness to me feels like it belongs in that part of the world more than in Anglo/America. (Though, maybe that's because I didn't realize it was a Lennon song until I was much older, I assumed it was originally German.)

Speaking of value-added, I had a minor issue with my cell phone plan and decided to go in to talk to someone about it in the store since it's a 3 min walk from my apartment. I ended up paying my bill in the store, and paid EIGHT fucking dollars in taxes/fees on a $40 plan. When I pay online I pay 75 cents in taxes.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 9:10 AM
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paid EIGHT fucking dollars in taxes/fees on a $40 plan

You were adding value.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 9:13 AM
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Nominee for Do not click this cover champion

Post -1980 sexual healing cover that I kind of like. They do an OK "Ghost Town" also. Possibly I am tainted by really loving this genre live.

Hypnotic brass ensemble cover of "War" that I think adds something


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 9:37 AM
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14: technically yes, but Smith's is the standard. The Springsteen version is all lazy sweet talk. Patti Smith sounds like she really has a sword, she really will use it to cut anyone who threatens her date night to ribbons, and no one should expect anything less. I have a real weakness for her sentimental stuff for this reason.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 10:00 AM
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Sly and Robbie play funk under Gwen Guthrie's fantastic voice; Chorus: "Spread yourself over me like peanut butter"


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 10:22 AM
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70: Of course, you're right. I thought that Springsteen put out a version in the 70s, but he didn't. It's just on recent live album and a recent compilation. I prefer Smith's version, but Springsteen's version is a good Springsteen song, and he's gotta be allowed, since he wrote the thing.

Here's a Shirley Manson/Marissa Paternoster version for which the value added is the guitar solo at the end.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 11:19 AM
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The Boz Scaggs thing that Charley linked to at 43 is absolutely wonderful


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 11:29 AM
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Surprisingly good: "Pinball Wizard" sung to the tune of "Folsom Prison Blues"


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 11:39 AM
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I love Springsteen, but the 10,000 Maniacs cover of "Because the Night" is amazing.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 2:17 PM
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I'm rather fond of Nouvelle Vague doing "The Guns of Brixton".

Nouvelle Vague's "Bela Lugosi's Dead" is wonderful.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 5:49 PM
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I'm going to out myself as an Adam Lambert fan.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 05- 9-17 8:32 PM
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VERY GOOD BLOG THANKS FOR SHARE, I LIKE IT


Posted by: Obat Pembesar Penis | Link to this comment | 10-26-17 4:54 AM
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Unfogged 2017 where only the spam makes cock joked anymore.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-26-17 5:28 AM
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Joked s/b jokes


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-26-17 5:29 AM
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Unfogged: sounding less mature than the President 2003-2016.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-26-17 5:46 AM
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