Re: Metathinking Fast & Slow

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My dad had a System VI. He got it from IBM back when "this computer is as small as a desk if you don't count the file cabinet-sized data storage" was a selling point.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 5:57 AM
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If a kid says, "I hate you" and you say "Do it my way anyway" and then funnily enough what I said worked, is that system I vs. II?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 6:07 AM
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I didn't feel I had anything to add to the reading group, but I enjoyed being able to read it while commenters updated the current state of research. I got a lot out of it at least.


Posted by: Blank Stare | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 6:36 AM
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All of the examples in the OP are good, but none of them require reading the book (I admit, in addition to laziness, the main reason that I haven't read it yet is that I'm not sure how much I will gain from the book vs the general impression received from reviews).


Also, I've been wanting to mention a book that could make a good future reading group topic: Ruling The Void of which Henry Farrell at Crookedtimber says, "Ruling the Void is the single most compelling account I've read of what has gone wrong in European politics, and in particular what's gone wrong for the left. It's still enormously relevant years after his death. The ever ramifying disaster that is the British Labour party is in large part the working out of the story that Mair laid out - how party elites became disconnected from their base, how the EU became a way to kick issues out of politics into technocracy, and how it all went horribly wrong."

I started it, but didn't finish it on my own. It isn't long, I don't think it's a hard book to read, but I did think I'd get a lot more out of it if I could talk through the questions as I was going.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 7:00 AM
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All of the examples in the OP are good, but none of them require reading the book

I didn't actually make the kids read the book.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 7:42 AM
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Because it wasn't a series.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 7:44 AM
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1: I think it was a system IV my dad brought home for me when I was 11. It was busted and I took it apart for fun. We sold the power supply heat sink for scrap and made about a hundred bucks. The thing was huge.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 7:54 AM
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4: I'm up for it, but have no particular knowledge to contribute.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 8:24 AM
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4: I'm up for it, but have no particular knowledge to contribute.

Nor do I, but I don't think that's necessary.

I realized, after I posted 4, that the reason why I think it would be more interesting to read in a group is that I agreed with some but not all of his arguments and that arguing over them could be useful because reading by myself there's always the question, "am I just not understanding him correctly?"


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 8:36 AM
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The British have words, but not in a way we can understand.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 8:38 AM
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I just turn the subtitles on.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 8:50 AM
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They have names heebie. Just because it's rush hour in their time zone doesn't mean you can objectify them.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 8:58 AM
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They're probably more scared of me than I am of them.

Also, I keep mis-reading the post title as Methinking Fast & Slow.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 9:02 AM
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I didn't actually make the kids read the book.

Good idea. That probably would have been too much since I assume that they're still making their way through The Deluge. What's Hawaiian Punch's take on Britain's post-war deflationary policy?


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 9:07 AM
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4: I read it, and liked it, and wouldn't mind a reading group.


Posted by: X. Trapnel | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 11:02 AM
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X. Trapnel!!


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 11:03 AM
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|| Chapter 11 up. Delay due to the fact that I got sidetracked by writing Chapter 14 and 15 first. Damn my unstructured brain. |>


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 11:32 AM
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Shit, I killed the thread.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 6:47 PM
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I'm gonna wait for chapter 13 (which should bring 14 and 15) . That way I'll have a bunch of chapters to read.

I'm looking forward to a Trumpiad. Not sure if it's going to be Shakespeare or something Greek.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 9:33 PM
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19.2 That'll be the farce, right?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-16-17 11:04 PM
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"He was like one of those characters in an 18th-century comedy meant to embody a particular flavor of human folly."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/donald-trump-mark-bowden-playboy-profile/amp


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 7:12 AM
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I'm watching Escape from New York. For research purposes. I'm convinced the world views from shitty 80s movies do more to inform me of what is likely to happen next than opinion polls, legal analysis, and White House leaks.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 8:15 AM
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That was me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 8:17 AM
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"Let me make the Kurt Russell movies of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 8:29 AM
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My neighbor had the same station wagon as Snake is using.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 8:54 AM
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They stole the constant "I thought you were dead" from Big Jake.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:01 AM
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22: If we have to have a Donald for president, I'd take Donald Pleasence over Donald Trump.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:10 AM
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I hope they rescue Ernest Borgnine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:19 AM
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That was short-lived hope.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:22 AM
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That was too subtle. I'll try Judge Dredd now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:45 AM
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I love the end of Escape From New York. He basically condemns the world to possible nuclear war because president Donald Pleasence pissed him off.

I had no idea until recently the Kurt Russell spent the 70s making G rated family friendly movies as one of Disney's biggest stars.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:50 AM
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27. If I was American I'd settle for Donald Duck.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 9:51 AM
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Ducks can't live to be 35.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 10:00 AM
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32: Properly interpreted, Trump's 3:00 AM tweetstorms evaluate to "Qua-quaaa qua-qua-quackquackquack!"


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 11:15 AM
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I love that movie (Escape from New York).


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 12:06 PM
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Judge Dredd is kind of awful, even if you use a "Rob Schneider" discount on your expectations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 12:26 PM
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I think they have a Cure song for the credits.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 12:34 PM
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The past is another county. One where Stallone in spandex is a thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 12:35 PM
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I have two really close friends here and one is leaving in a couple of days back to Beirut. Just said goodbye. I'm sure I'll see him again and his family is still mostly here but still...


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-17-17 12:37 PM
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So I paid a lot of money to have my new place cleaned even though I hope I can get to move back into my old place once it's cleared with the landlord (it's complicated) and I still had to clean for hours. At least they did a good job on the upholstery.

OK, let me start that again. So when I came back from work to see the job they had done 2 of the cleaning crew must have been young teenagers. And one of them had this real fearful abused look. It was creepy and terrible and god awful. In the morning I'd just met the foreman and had set up the appointment with some one else at the company, it seems to be a pretty big outfit. But honestly these were kids, I've been around a lot of migrant laborers here (we have helpers, cleaners, and 'tea boys') but I've never seen anyone I thought was 14 years old. And that look. That horrible downcast beaten look. I tipped each of them real well (as I was going to) but man. Very disturbing.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 7:48 AM
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Ack. That's an awful, horrible situation to witness and be powerless in. I'm so sorry.

At least they did a good job on the upholstery.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 7:55 AM
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40. That's a shitty situation, but you did what you could.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 8:14 AM
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The old guy probably stole the tips.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 8:45 AM
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43 Maybe, I put it in each of their hands and tried to keep it out of sight of the guy.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 8:47 AM
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That might work.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 8:48 AM
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36: The new Judge Dredd is much better than the old one. Praising with faint damnation, but I enjoyed it.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 8:50 AM
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46: yes it is - I liked the way they tried to de-emphasise the weirder aspects of the comic to create a more believable universe. The planned sequel was to have been the Judge Death arc, though, which I am not at all sure would have worked.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 1:02 PM
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Just replacing Rob Schneider would have done wonders.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 3:27 PM
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NMM to Stephen Furst.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 10:46 PM
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49 NMM pwnage is the easiest pwnage of all but still satisfying.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 10:51 PM
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When Trump's head is raised on a pike we must all put Vir-waving selfies on Flickr.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-18-17 11:28 PM
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I just figured out who Stephen Furst is. Now I'm sad.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-19-17 6:13 AM
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