Re: Long way to go. Three days to get there.

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You might want to keep an eye on inciweb to the extent you have routing choices.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 11:27 AM
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What are you doing in Montana? We were just there.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 11:36 AM
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1: yikes.

2: I can't figure out if this is due a sarcastic answer or a straight answer! My in-laws live there. I don't think I even piped up about it in your Montana thread because I assumed you knew that we drive there every summer and it's a big colossal undertaking.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 11:53 AM
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I was just telling TWYRCL that I dislike true crime books, podcasts, etc., because the abyss between the listener and the obscene suffering behind the ironic, concerned stage-whisper of the documentarian is too jarring. I'd like to think that this reflects some gentle sensibility on my part but I think I'm just squeamish.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 12:56 PM
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I'm going to assume you're sexist because these ladies are fucking hilarious.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 1:36 PM
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3.2; ogged's living in his own personal Montana.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 1:40 PM
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I'm sorry for being mean to everyone on this thread. Please come back and talk to me.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 3:32 PM
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I wasn't avoiding you. I assembled a sofa.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 3:47 PM
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It's not even from Ikea because we didn't want to invest that kind of money in it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 3:51 PM
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Further to 1, right now, if you can conjure up some excuse for crossing the divide at Marias Pass, that would be good. Should be good where you're going, barring either (a) new events or (b) a fairly significant shift in the winds.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 3:56 PM
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It's really day-by-day here. I can watch the massive smoke plume from the Lolo Peak fire from my office, but prevailing winds keep that well south of town. (LP is, what, 10-12 miles south/southwest of town, nearly 6,000 feet higher than the valley.)

We got immersed in smoke Sunday and Monday from the Tarkio fires, and 50 miles west, but that tracks south of us as well most days.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:04 PM
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Smoke follow beauty!


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:05 PM
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+s
/fooling around about a serious issue


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:06 PM
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Would you mind heading down to Hamilton for a few days? Week or two?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:09 PM
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Me?


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:11 PM
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is it a rhetorical question or a request?


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:11 PM
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I guess the answer is "no, I wouldn't mind" either way, but it's not something I'd just do on the spur of the moment. Like I can't go right NOW, I'm not packed!


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:13 PM
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Not only did I not remember your trip, I didn't remember that I'd posted about mine.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 4:19 PM
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5: If they're the same ladies I'm thinking of, it's a little creepy how obviously one of them hungers to kill the other one and assume her more popular identity.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 5:50 PM
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Hmm. I'll let you know if its the same ladies after I log some hours in the car listening to them with that planted in my mind.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 7:19 PM
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Spoiler alert!


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-25-17 7:40 PM
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I was just telling TWYRCL that I dislike true crime books, podcasts, etc., because the abyss between the listener and the obscene suffering behind the ironic, concerned stage-whisper of the documentarian is too jarring.

I have a similar dislike, though it's less a rejection of that distancing than that I simply don't care about the specific cases unless they're actually detailing or uncovering some systemic problem. I just can't engage with most crime reportage and the whole big trial culture in the media. Something horrible happened to people I don't know, and you're telling me this for entertainment purposes? Great. Now my life is worse too for knowing, thanks.

Now if the aim is to highlight prosecutorial abuse or failure of the social services, then that's another matter, but true crime for true crime's sake? No thanks.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 1:51 AM
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Something horrible happened to people I don't know, and you're telling me this for entertainment purposes? Great. Now my life is worse too for knowing, thanks.

To be fair, this describes most of the news, arguably even the fashion pages.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 2:07 AM
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I don't read the fashion pages either.

Basically, if it's something I can in principle do something about, through political action or a donation or something like that, then I'm (potentially) interested. But if it's just something shitty that happened to someone, I'd rather not know.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 2:26 AM
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I read Maggie Nelson's two books about her aunt's murder and its impact on her (born after it happened) and her family and appreciated/recommend those for people looking for a slightly different take on true-crime stuff that indicts the true-crime news world.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 4:15 AM
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Re: true crime, I'm a bit over half way through watching The Keepers on Netflix.

If you're running short on things to depress you, I highly recommend it.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 4:17 AM
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If you have 160 minutes to spare, watch The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford for another indictment of true crime.


Posted by: Martius | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 4:45 AM
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A film almost as pointlessly long, annoying and prolix as its title.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 4:52 AM
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Agreed. It needed a leaner, harder adaption. I can recommend Ralph Fiennes.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 5:03 AM
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Finally watched Hinterland, and enjoyed it.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:24 AM
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Did you finish the whole series? I'm still on season 2.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:30 AM
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28: It is too long, and the Coward is annoying, but I don't think it's pointless at all. It tells exactly the story it wants, and it does damn American celebrity/gun/heroic psychopath culture. It probably bites more today than it did on release, and will bite deeper in future. And the photography! And that gunfight in the bedroom where our badass gunslingers fire off about 15 bullets between them and only *one* of them hits anything? Perfect.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:41 AM
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And that's why we need RPGs for deer hunting.


Posted by: Opinionated NRA | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:58 AM
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It was a sad day in my life when I realised that now I used RPG to stand for ruchnoi protivotankoviye granatamyot far more often than I used it to stand for "role-playing game". End of innocence.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 8:15 AM
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When Ajay Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous Russian.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 10:11 AM
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35 is great.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 10:15 AM
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It turns out that a $40 hotel room in Raton, NM, booked blind on priceline, is actually super shitty and not on par with la Quinta or Days Inn as was proclaimed.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:41 PM
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Shocking!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:50 PM
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Daze Inn would be a good name for a cheap hotel.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 7:51 PM
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Anyway, it might be nice to not have to worry if the kids pee on the carpet.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-26-17 8:00 PM
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Slightly better hotel, Sheridan, Wyoming. Day of beautiful driving.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-27-17 7:40 PM
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So can they pee on the carpet or not?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-27-17 7:42 PM
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Big hitter, the lama. Long.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-27-17 7:47 PM
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Raton has a section of cute storefronts, though. At least when viewed from the Amtrak bus to Denver.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-28-17 10:03 PM
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