Re: Reading Group: After the Family Wage

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1. Me.
3. Maybe a few posts, breaking different themes or discussion directions rather than sections of the essay?
4. Me for a chunk if so. Not the whole if that's the way we go.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 10:56 AM
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As I said elsewhere, I could do a coordinating post about foster care failures and best practices. And of course I'll read and participate because I have some sort of compulsion.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 11:11 AM
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I am obviously interested.

I can do a write up for some or all.

If people want it in a book, it's collected in

https://www.versobooks.com/books/1173-fortunes-of-feminism


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 11:23 AM
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Ooh, ordered the book! We didn't really get to talk much about her response to Habermas when that class was ending, but I'd love to read more.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 11:30 AM
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I'm in.
I could write up a chunk.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 11:38 AM
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I now have the 'Heavy Dragoon' song stuck in my head as a result of seeing the word 'residuum' in the linked.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 12:03 PM
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In for the reading group, but I know nothing about the topic so perhaps not the best first choice for summarizer. But I'll summarize a chunk anyway if having more chunks is better.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 1:26 PM
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I'm in. Having just read the first couple of pages of the essay it looks really interesting. I could probably write up a chunk.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 2:18 PM
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I read the whole essay. I like it, and I think it offers plenty of room for interesting arguments.

I think it would be better to treat the essay as a whole, rather than breaking it into chunks. the conclusions help illuminate the earlier parts, and for discussion purposes I think it will be helpful to go back and forth between her conclusions and her set-up.

I'd be happy to write a summary of the article. I'm also aware that in doing so I would emphasize some elements and de-emphasize others, so it might be good to have more than one person write a complete summary. Alternately, if that seems like too much work, I'd be happy to tag-team and write up something and pass it along to somebody else with the invitation to make edits or additions.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 6:04 PM
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Yeah, I think the best format might be the way Crooked Timber runs their book discussions: everyone reads the whole thing, and each poster writes about whatever portion or angle they are interested in.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 6:36 PM
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I'd be up for that (obviously).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 6:38 PM
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All I know is that heebie misspelled "Bulgur", and I'm deeply offended on Criminally's behalf.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 6:52 PM
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It's adorable that I don't spell well.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 7:03 PM
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2nd 10. I haven't read it, but the paper is only 26 pages including notes, so I don't see a need to break it up.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 7:23 PM
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Stop bragging.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 7:24 PM
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I'm trying and failing to make bragging jokes. My brain should be back soon, I hope.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 7:47 PM
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I still haven't finished Montaigne.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 9:03 PM
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I still haven't finished Heidegger.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 9:03 PM
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I still haven't finished Tooze.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 9:03 PM
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Heidegger is Nazi and Tooze is anti-Nazi, so you can cancel those out.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 9:44 PM
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I don't know who counts as anti-Montaigne, but you probably haven't read them either. So you're golden, basically.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 9:56 PM
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Apres Sein und Zeit, la deluge.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 10:02 PM
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You're golden platinum.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-10-17 10:08 PM
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10 sounds like a good idea. I might write something or just pontificate arrogantly in comments.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 1:45 AM
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I don't know who counts as anti-Montaigne

Clearly, Thales.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 1:47 AM
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Dan Brown


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 2:00 AM
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Certainly not Ignatius Loyola. He would be ultramontaigne.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 2:06 AM
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24.2 for mouseover.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 3:38 AM
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Would read; might comment if I find anything to say; probably not at great length because other shit.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 5:39 AM
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Better a just pontificate than to just pontificate.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 5:47 AM
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I printed it out! That means I will almost certainly read it. Then if I'm profoundly inspired I may eke out a couple of irrelevant comments.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 6:54 AM
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31: I think it's spelled "eek" not "eke".


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:02 AM
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It's eke. "Eek" is what you say when you're in a cartoon strip and you see a mouse.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:05 AM
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Just downloaded the article. I'll read it over the weekend. I'll work on a Heideggerian critique of the article that connects the domestic and economic conditions it describes to Piketty's account of the state of capital in the 21st century through links to the historical events between the wars recounted by Tooze.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:13 AM
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33: Oh, yeah. It is an actual word.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:15 AM
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34: Don't forget to include a Montaignesque skepticism to the table!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:17 AM
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36: Maybe that should read, "Don't forget to bring a Montaignesque skepticism to the table!"
or maybe it should never have been written at all.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:19 AM
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"Eek" is what you say when you're in a cartoon strip and you see a mouse.

Which is why it's an appropriate expression for somebody named "peep."


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:39 AM
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I'm on board with the directive in 10. Having never paid attention to a Crooked Timber book discussion: how much of an orderly timeline does there need to be? I assume there needs to be a Read By date, before which no write-ups will be posted. And then after that, the write-ups just get posted as they're received?

What would you all like as a General Read By date?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 7:52 AM
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Read by next Sunday, write-ups posted on Wednesday? I don't know how CT does this either.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:04 AM
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Somebody has to say that liberals are the real racists. That's all I remember.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:07 AM
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I think the Read By day should be the same as the Earliest Write Ups Posted day. In other words, for anyone who just wants to read and discuss, you should be ready by the Read By date. The date should be set by those who want to write something to post, and then they should pace themselves accordingly.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:07 AM
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To your larger point, is Wednesday 8/16 enough time for you all to read and write a post?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:08 AM
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I meant Wednesday 8/23. Otherwise, comity. I don't know if I'll find enough to say to warrant a write-up, but if I do 8/23 would be fine for me.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:12 AM
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I'll read it over the weekend. I'll work on a Heideggerian critique of the article that connects the domestic and economic conditions it describes to Piketty's account of the state of capital in the 21st century through links to the historical events between the wars recounted by Tooze.

It promises to be a most transformative experience.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:12 AM
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How's 8/23 for all you prospective writers-up?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:20 AM
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Works for me.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:44 AM
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Montaignesque

Montaignard


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-11-17 8:57 AM
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I'm not sure I'm going to have anything written up today, though it could still happen. How are others doing?


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 4:46 AM
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Let me bump this and remind everyone.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 7:05 AM
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I read it! And forgotten most of it, I think. Oh, well..


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 7:23 AM
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I now have three appointments for this afternoon plus two heads of hair to wash and style, so I think I'm a firm no.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 7:36 AM
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I will get a response to you today. I have something mostly ready, but should edit a bit to make it more coherent.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 7:38 AM
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So is it just, anyone who wants to write something should send it in, and you'll post them sequentially?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 8:07 AM
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I've read, but don't have anything worth writing, so I'm good for whenever.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 8:19 AM
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54: Yep.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 9:51 AM
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Sequentially in one FP post?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 9:59 AM
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To make it easier to separate, make every other entry in orange text.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 10:02 AM
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Alternating blue and orange. They're complementary.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 10:05 AM
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Just sent my response to Heebie. I'm happy with it, but I'm sure it still has some typos and we'll see if it makes sense and anyone finds it engaging -- I worry that writing on an academic subject makes my style even more ponderous than it normally is.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-22-17 8:44 PM
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