Setting the executive function thing entirely aside, it seems to me (and IANAPsychologist) that being bilingual makes you better in your 'native' language. My formal understanding of English grammar is largely down to having been explicitly taught French grammar, and I am convinced (in an evidence free way, of course) that I'm a much better speaker and writer of English because of it.
And of course there is the rather massive "I can speak both official languages of my country and could talk to my grandparents in their native language" advantage.
On the other hand, I can't spell in either language, so there's that.
I'll co-sign 1. I think my grasp of English was improved by my study of French, despite the fact that my study of French didn't do much for my understanding of French.
Same as 1 only the language was Arabic.
Re: Part II: Yikes, this dude is a father who seems to have lost any custodial or visitation rights with his 7-or-8 year old son right around when the dispute started.
There but for the Grace of God would have gone I.
The rent situation, that is. Not so much the kid.
1: You get that long before you become anything close to fluent in your second language, though. You can even get that through the way languages are half-assedly taught in American schools.
Learning a second language is useful in and of itself, except when it really isn't. Says the guy who's still studying Irish.
We're in the midst of family drama now- widower dad has new girlfriend who doesn't like his kids/grandkids but he's showing signs of reduced mental capacity and can't tell if it's age or that he's being irresponsible/she's influencing him.
The NPR article makes the guy seem a lot more reasonable (not that he IS) than the CNN interview, where it is abundantly clear he's a completely ridiculous asshole.
8: yuck. My father just sent my sister and me an e-mail saying he has decided to start dating. Objectively, that's great. Subjectively, I really, really hope he finds a nice spinster for company in a few years and i won't have to deal with more than one extra person at holidays.
Agree, it would be great for him to be with someone if he's happy but we get the sense he just found someone who expressed interest and is afraid of not being able to find anyone else- he hasn't dated in like 40 years- and refuses to say anything negative or defend his family for fear of rejection. We asked what he likes about her so maybe we could get to like her too, and he couldn't really answer.
The 30-year-old guy clearly knows who his people are.
Eh, my widowed grandfather was married within the year. I think that's pretty common for old, long-married men. They just don't know how to be, besides married.
13 seems true, though 8 also seems like a constant problem. Getting old is totally terrifying.
12 is why I don't find the story of the 30-year-old kid as funny as I might (it's still a little funny). These pathetic men were funnier when they didn't seem like an existential threat to civilization.
12: Good thing he isn't balding and 47, otherwise the whole story might be too obviously VTSOOBC.
Possibly on topic: I am wearing a tux and drinking.
15- really that's our best guess. To such an extreme that it's affecting his mental capabilities. Also he smokes a lot of pot.
A wise commenter on some other blog noted that apparently he's got *weapons*. And she said something like "I fear this won't end well, and with people shot". Gotta say, I think she's prolly right.
Those weapons are almost certainly katanas, or some other LARPing swords.
Totally interrupting to say GUYS IT LOOKS LIKE WE DID IT, exit polls show big majorities to repeal 8th Amendment to Bunreacht na hÉireann, I've waited all my adult life for this.
8: My cousin who is a really nice guy had to deal my dreadful uncle maybe developing dementia. He remarried, and then she got dementia in her early 60's and is in an ALF.
Her kids were going after the house. Knowing my uncle and his awful business dealings, they might have a claim. But my cousin thought they were really awful for trying to keep them from seeing each other. I always thought his second wife was kind of blech, so it didn't seem that awful to me, but the stepmother's kids as undue influence was a new angle for me.
The HomeToVote tweets and stories have been so heartwarming. I literally teared up this morning reading through them.
GHWB, you should send your dad on a seniors' singles cruise. The male-to-female ratio will be very favorable -- he shouldn't have any trouble attracting attention. A friend's father went on one of those a few years ago and came home with like three girlfriends.
A good friend of mine in his early 50's had the same thing with his wife's Dad. Her mother died when she was in her early teens. Remarried shortly after and her step-mom was really a mother to her. She died and he remarried maybe within a year. She's nice enough, and I think he was just one of those guys who needs to be married.
Women seem to be able to manage being single widows better.
Ireland just granted women the right to have an abortion? That's amazing. Congratulations!
Yep, well we still have to pass the legislation but the constitutional ban is gone. Before this you had to be in absolute danger of dying and sometimes women did, most infamous case probably Savita Halappanavar.
The anti-change spokespeople included such a shower of smug assholes and Opus Dei freaks, all suspected to be backed up by US pro life money. Somehow they were constantly on the airwaves and in the papers in the name of "balance". I hope they crawl off to their pits and shut the hell up from now on.
31: would women in Northern Ireland be allowed to go to the South and pay for an abortion? It seems like it would be easier than traveling to England.
Also, why is it that Northern Ireland's exceptions allowing abortion in limited circumstances don't include fatal fetal abnormality?
21: Thanks, but I'm already married.
and Opus Dei freaks
The freakiest of the RC freaks. My parents once went on a weekend "married couples" "retreat" sponsored by Opus Dei types, and my mother came back feeling very angry and grumpy indeed. Apparently she was supposed to give thanks to God for the pileup of dirty clothes in our basement laundry room, since it showed how she was really wanted, or something like that.
Hello Ireland. The 21st century would like to welcome you...
24: Comhghairdeas daoibh! Absolutely fantastic; I hope the relevant law follows imminently.
Go Ireland!
Is it known how far the parliament will take their new power? Full topless European, or more hedged about?
Don't know how this will play out for NI but should be a help for them. I'm really not familiar with their restrictions, like us they cross the water to get help and it was only last year IIRC it was confirmed the NHS would pay for them.
As part of the process the government have put forward heads of a draft bill. Abortion available on request (tho with 72 hour waiting period) up to 12 weeks - these should mostly be medical and it's intended to be GP based. After that, available in cases of serious risk to health or life of the mother or where foetus has a fatal condition - up to viability whereupon every effort will be made to deliver and sustain the baby.
This was the proposal the No campaign kept saying was too extreme.
Only 51% turnout in Dublin Central? Half of people stayed home? Huh.
51% turnout, but 75% majority. Seems like the "soft No" abstained en bloc. I'm not surprised by the result, but the margin. The meedja was all saying it would be quite close.
I am so glad to see the result from Ireland. The HomeToVote stories and tweets made me very teary.
I am also glad to see Sweden, and other parts of ETE, moving to define rape as sex without consent.
The news from Ireland is wonderful. Did you see those pictures of all those Irish women returning home from abroad to vote?
37: Yeah, it really sucked that they had to pay in England until recently.
Oh, you were talking about the Dublin result.
(Look at me, saying "result" like a Northern European Isleser.)
The meedja thought there might be a "shy No" contingent of voters and/or that support would slacken in the last week or so. It looks like instead there was if any thing some shy Yeses in rural areas and that support increased.
OT: Elderly white people are going to drive me batty.
Yay, Ireland!
OT: How friendly is Dublin to pedestrians? Is it as walkable as cities like Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Barcelona?
It's hard to walk when you have to dodge all the leprechauns.
48: I can't compare to any of those cities, but I thought the central core was walkable. I had no trouble walking maybe three or four miles a day. The sidewalks are on the small side, and driving seems to be a bit of a mess, but it wasn't much of an issue. The central arteries are easy to cross and sometimes have islands in the middle. Biking seems suicidal, though. I didn't take public transit except to go to and from the airport, but there were many buses and they've been expanding/linking up their small light rail network.
You don't dodge a leprechaun. That's what the shillelagh is for. Rookie move.
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re: 48
Sure. Maybe not quite as much as some of those, but it's fairly walking friendly. It's not big, it isn't built around the assumption you'll drive everywhere, although there's less pedestrian only streets than Copenhagen or Amsterdam, I think.*
I didn't personally think that much of Dublin, tbh. But I think others really like it, so ymmv.
* I've been to all of the cities mentioned except Barcelona, and Dublin and Amsterdam multiple times.
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I was in Dublin in February and thought it was quite walkable. The one (maybe obvious) thing to mention is that, if you're from a normal-driving-side country, you have to be on the lookout for cars coming from unexpected directions. Thankfully, the good people of Ireland have painted reminders in the crosswalks, telling you which way to look for cars at a given intersection. (Maybe other weird-driving-side countries do this as well.)
Mossheimat just kills you and laughs.
OT: I'm not sure what is happening in Georgia, but that was the first homily against Arianism I've heard in my life.
Can't be too careful, Ostrogoths are real.
Georgia the hinterland of Atlanta or Georgia the homeland of Comrade Dzhugashvili?
WHAT AM I, ELEPHANT SEAL GUANO?
Do seals make guano? I thought that was only birds.
It looks like seal guano is a thing too.
Anyway, I am in suburban Atlanta. It's strange being in a place where you need a car for basically anything, but it was undeniably less sweaty than walking in this heat.
58. On this Trinity Sunday the preacher is going back to basics.
It's more like "heresy landmine Sunday" for most priests.
And if you google "three in one" for an assist, the first thing you get is the website for some bar in Colonia New Jersey. I think it's the trinity of sushi, sports bar, and ?????wildcard.
https://www.thethreeinone.com/
I suppose yesterday all the synagogues were like "Baal, don't offer sacrifices to him."
I think it's the trinity of sushi, sports bar, and ?????wildcard.
I see your trinity, and raise you La Casa Del Mofongo Sushi Bakery & Piano Bar.
50, 53, 56: thanks! I'm curious to watch Dublin, as potentially the soon-to-be #1 English-language city in the EU.
69: our assistant vicar is theologically sound and should have preached today. The vicar was.. um. So, I asked my friend in the pew afterwards. Did he understand the priest to be saying that the father created the son? He said "yes."
74 - fortunately, that vicar is now shaking in his boots with fear of the Episcopalian Inquisition.
ADMIT IT, THE TWITTER FIGHTS WILL BE SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON NOW
76: And only slightly more likely to involve threats of torture to those with other religions.
I really hate the latest English translation of the Nicene Creed. "Consubstantial with the Father" instead of "one in being with the Father:" sorry, no, it just sounds wrong to me. And yeah, I get it: fidelity to the ancient Latin text, and all of that. But let's have a bit of respect for the rhythms and cadences of the English language, if we're going to translate into an English vernacular in the first place, after all. Also, "chalice" instead of "cup:" so bad, so damn cheesy. Are we saying a Mass, or running a Saturday night disco in the basement of the Church hall? Just asking,
"Consubstantial with the Father" is a tertius paeonic dimeter, though. Probably sounds better as rap than prose.
I think the use of "chalice" in English-language Catholicism significantly predates disco and discothequés by quite a while. Then again, the few times I've been to a Catholic service since giving up on that, the new translations have also rubbed me wrong.
I see some folks need to get off my glebe.
I finally read OP.2.
I can't make myself feel sorry for the guy, but I think his brain just broke. I wonder how he handled the seduction that resulted in his kid. I'm picturing something like, "I mean, it seems to me like I should be provided with sex or something, because generally you get sex after this many dates."
79: Episcopalians still say "Of One Being with the Father." I believe we are discussing dropping the filioque to promote better ecumenical relations.
When I was a kid the CoE still used the 1662 version: "being of one substance with the Father", which seems to me to combine clarity with fidelity to the original better than any subsequent efforts.
(Insofar as one can speak of clarity when dealing with trinitarianism.)
79 et seq: I dislike it too and most of the other changes (have a fondness for "under my roof") - I feel it was a total navel gazing exercise. I seem to recall that they had some highly qualified people do the new version and then a bunch of bishops came in anyway and overrode many of the decisions.
The Vatican often falls into the trap of using words which are humdrum words in, forex, Italian, but highly unusual and little understood in English - "collation" being an example.
The Mass in Irish is not as badly affected because it was already closer to the Latin. They did change "atá d'aon substaint" to "atá de chomhshubstaint" but it's less obscure than in English because comh- is a very common/productive prefix.
Anyhow I think I'm going to stop going to Mass altogether so it doesn't matter what I think.
Pretty sure we did the "of one substance" bit when I were a (CoE school) lad too.
86: The productiveness of "comh-" surprised me, but it's been a useful friend for puzzling out meaning. I gueass if anything it's weird how not productive English "con-" is. Think I'll start working "consubstantial" into my everyday, non-trinitarian conversations.
I gueass if anything it's weird how not productive English "con-" is
By contrast with "comh-" you mean? I'd contend that conversations in English (whether contemporary English or that from the time of the Conquest) contain a considerable number of examples.
Pretty sure we did the "of one substance" bit when I were a (CoE school) lad too.
Typically,the US Episcopal church [led by Bishop Michael Curry TOTAL ROYAL WEDDING OWNER of the CoE but I digress] makes that version optional, along with "of one being" as another option, along with not saying the Nicene Creed at all as a third options. Lots of options.
So, Arianism is still a live option?
Trying to figure out the level of heresy that would actually get you kicked out of the ECUSA is pretty hard. Bishop Spong rejects theism, virgin birth, and the resurrection, and is still a bishop, so I'm pretty sure you can be an Arian if you want. I think they'd probably draw the line at ritual Aztec human sacrifice.
"We would prefer you not worship Baʿal."
It's Latin con-, really, but it still seems to be pretty productive in English. Especially if you include the co-, col-, com- and cor- variants.
89: I don't mean that it isn't in a lot of words. But you can't use it to create new words the way you could, say, "un" or "pre". That it's occurs in so many common words but isn't as flexible is precisely what I find weird. On the other hand, my understanding (this might be wrong) is that "comh" can be very easily used to make neologisms.
94: Okay, yeah, "co-" is fairly productive. Maybe less so outside of academic contexts, but co-[leadership position] is common.
94: Okay, yeah, "co-" is fairly productive. Maybe less so outside of academic contexts, but co-[leadership position] is common.
Right. Everyone will pick up what it means if you prefix something with "co-". Whereas with "con-", you can't be sure it means "co-" because it might be something more like "contra", like in "pros and cons".
Wait, is this a thread about the Irish language? I discovered a musician I really like named "Caoimhín Ó Raghallaigh". The pronunciation is on his website and it's a bit different, but I'm wondering if this is literally the same name as "Kevin O'Reilly".
And "Comh" reminds me of when I found out that the city of "Cobh" is just the word "Cove" spelled in Irish, because it's a cove.
I really hate the latest English translation of the Nicene Creed. "Consubstantial with the Father" instead of "one in being with the Father:"
I don't follow these things, and wasn't aware of the new translation, but I love this. It's so very Catholic. At one time in my life, I was very Catholic, and I still admire the intellectual effort and the detailed legalistic thinking the Catholics put into their theology.
The new translation is more precise. (I remember being shocked to learn about the miracle of transubstantiation. I had assumed that we Catholics viewed the Eucharist as the symbolic consumption of the body of Christ.)
97: Caoimhín is Kevin*, and I would pronounce "Ó Raghallaigh" somewhat like O'Reilly. However, in general turning Irish names into Hiberno-English loses information and I'm awful at predicting how they'll go. Especially place names.
* Trying to pronounce it regularly, it sounds a bit like saying it with an Australian accent, with two long I's, the first one slightly stressed. As always take me as an interested amateur; if emir disagrees with me she's right.
79: Amen. Plus, when you have to explain "consubstantial", you say, well, it means one in being. I get that having a formal, constipated translation makes a certain segment of Catholics really happen, but the loss of that cadence is a shame.
Until the translation is constipated, the Catholics are in a superposition, both happening and not-happening.
That's not really surprising. There are gyms near me in a graveyard. I don't go to them because after dark I think it looks suspicious and before dark I'm worried about disturbing somebody's family.
The Catholic graveyard used to have a sign against Pokemoning. The fancy non-sectarian one, not so much, but they've started actually locking it after 5 so I hardly ever get a chance to walk through it.
Two more years of Trump and the bar will be so low the sign will read, "Thank you for not using permanent marker when you write swastika on the headstones."
103: Opinionated John Calvin?
PAH! JOHNNY-COME-LATELY!
I mostly feel sorry for John Goodman.
Also, did anybody else remember who Valerie Jarrett was before this? I had to look her up. I assume this has something to do with Pizzagate or something else really fucked up.
Among my many moral failings, I sometimes mix up John Goodman and Tom Arnold. For obvious reasons.
Yes, I also had to look up Jarrett; all I remembered was that she was in the Obama admin.
Among my many moral failings, I sometimes mix up John Goodman and Tom Arnold. For obvious reasons.
I didn't even realise they were different people for a long time.
I didn't watch the new season, but I remember the original Roseanne fondly largely for being kind of left-seeming. Her being an off the deep end Pizzagate Trumper racist in real life was kind of a shock.
The executive who made the call is probably, with Shonda Rhimes, the most powerful African-American in television (and someone I've met and like a lot). It's a good argument for having black people in positions of actual power, and we can now expect a bunch of white racists to explain why it shows you shouldn't have black people in positions of actual power. Well guess what racists, back into your caves.
Given that Trump voters were motivated primarily by economic insecurity, it's really a sad coincidence that Roseanne Barr just happened to be one of the rare racist Trump supporters. What are the odds?
It's also interesting that the thing that got her fired is the Valerie Jarrett stuff. In the accounts I've read, the brutally anti-Semitic Soros tweets were largely ignored.
And holy shit, did you see her "apology?"
I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks.
I wonder what it is about Ms. Jarrett's politics that calls to mind the Muslim Brotherhood, or her appearance that evokes the word "ape?"
Valerie Jarrett in the right-wing imagination is the female equivalent of Eric Holder. Someone we can assume to be
a) monstrously corrupt because she is a crony of the Obamas ("crony" defined as simultaneously friend and colleague)
b) incompetent because she is black and therefore unqualified for her corruption job
the brutally anti-Semitic Soros tweets were largely ignored
In Hollywood, the antisemitism scales goes all the way to Mel Gibson.
Maybe they could have written her out, like a car wreck or something, and replaced her with somebody Dan picked up on Tinder. Is Shelly Long still working?
Somebody said that they should have Becky'd her and replaced her with Kathy Bates.
Or even better they could have replaced her with the original Becky.
In the accounts I've read, the brutally anti-Semitic Soros tweets were largely ignored.
I think those are complicated by the fact that Roseanne is Jewish (in some sense? Jewish family, raised Jewish part of the time, LDS part of the time?), which I hadn't realized until earlier today. Like, that picture of her dressed as Hitler putting gingerbread men in an oven was for a satirical Jewish magazine, Heeb. At which point that doesn't make the Soros stuff not-anti-Semitic, but it does make getting into it with her sticky. The Valerie Jarrett tweet was a much simpler offense.
You just need to keep doing Bar Mitzvah after Bar Mitzvah until you make it to that level.
I learned this week that Kirk Douglas had a second Bar Mitzvah at 83, since the traditional lifespan of a person is reckoned to be 70 years. That's kind of hardcore. (Also: that was 18 years ago and he's still kicking.)
"You just need to keep doing Bar Mitzvah after Bar Mitzvah"
List of possible bar mitzvot:
picking good songs on the jukebox
not starting arguments about politics
calling a taxi for someone who is too drunk to drive
tipping generously (this is also a restaurant mitzvah)
OT: I am reliably informed that my résumé sucks. Apparently, people format these things more complicatedly than they did in the dot matrix printer days and you aren't supposed to lead with a 25 year old degress.
I just happened across the image mentioned in 122 and 123 is right. It's actually worse than "picture of her dressed as Hitler putting gingerbread men in an oven" sounds like it should be.
Her recent tweet to Chelsea Clinton that George Soros was a Nazi was straight up anti-Semitic. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I was just looking up what she said about him. It wasn't just that he was a Nazi sympathizer, but that he turned in other Jews so he could steal their wealth. It's really hard to see how it could get worse without going blood-libel.
He was only 14 years old! I wonder if she got this from some right wing meme, or she just made it up.
I'm pretty sure it's a right wing meme.
it's not even a meme; it's a universally accepted fact that allows you to be anti-semitic about soros paying blm/antifa/normal old anti-fascist protestors (?) without being actually ((anti-semitic)). I know because I hate-fuck right-wing comments threads.
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124. Wasn't Roseanne Barr a (wild) lefty back in the days of the original run of the series and after, until recently? She actually ran for President for the Peace and Freedom party in 2012, and suggested that Bush 1 (among others) be beheaded. I never watched the show in either incarnation, but as a person she seems to be basically unhinged, regardless of her politics at any moment. She apparently blames her tweet on Ambien now.
133 is right. They figure out what they want to do and then figure out what has to be true for them to be justified in doing that and then believe that.
I mean, most people are like that a little bit. They just usually stop the process before it goes too far.
She apparently blames her tweet on Ambien now.
Yes. And she's making real apologies to Jarrett. Nothing about Soros.
138: Not sure what qualifies as a "real" apology, but her current line is that she is sorry she "hurt" Jarrett. No apology for insults or racism. And she pretty much took back the apology anyway.
She says she has accepted a job at Infowars. And about Jarrett, Barr "honestly thought she was Jewish and Persian-ignorant of me for sure, but...i did."
But who is the real victim here?
"i think i know what really happened. It has made me mad, but as I told u-i would leave when they started to try to censor me, so it all worked out"
Anyway, Barr took the trouble to say that she wasn't racist but didn't bother to say that she wasn't antisemitic. I guess because Ambien can cause racism but not antisemitism. I'm sure there's a study to that effect.
Jews are a race, don't you know? She was just being efficient.
135: I think the right has successfully weaponized crazy.
138: Not sure what qualifies as a "real" apology, but her current line is that she is sorry she "hurt" Jarrett. No apology for insults or racism. And she pretty much took back the apology anyway.
She says she has accepted a job at Infowars.
Pretty sure accepting a job at Infowars negates any apology one might make for racism (or antisemitism).
For the record, the Soros smear is one of those standard rightwing memes. Here is the NYT's debunking and backgrounder.
"I have accepted a job at Infowars" are the words that no parent ever wants to hear.
she had a traumatic head injury in a car crash at age 16 that changed her personality. this is a relatively common thing for famous 80s comics. sam kinison got hit by a truck when he was 3.
i think the common thing in 80s comedians was cocaine.
I still remember a simpler time many years ago when sane Republicans smeared Soros by claiming his wealth was drug money.