Re: Guest Post - nothing to do with ICE

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Just in case any of you were still thinking of Sweden as a paradise of progress and equality

WTF is this supposed to mean.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:36 AM
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Exactly. This is clearly the result of pernicious French influence.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:41 AM
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I just remember that Werdna was the villain from Wizardry, one of the first digital role playing games.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:43 AM
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I always though of Sweden as a paradise of alcohol stoves for hiking and very expensive food.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:46 AM
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This whole story is so odd and inexplicable to me.

I have so many questions but to start somewhere -- "the man who currently controls the rump of the Swedish Academy" - I understand that Engahl is a member of the Academy, but what do you mean by "controls the rump"?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:47 AM
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That sounds like a euphemism for "groping".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:49 AM
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WHEN I WENT THERE, PEEP, I DID NOT THINK TO HAVE DONE THIS. BUT PERCEIVING THE SPIRIT OF GOD SO STRONG UPON ME, I WOULD NOT CONSULT FLESH AND BLOOD.


Posted by: OPINIONATED HORACE ENGDAHL | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:58 AM
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"rump" meaning what's left of the Academy after several people have left and not been replaced.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:59 AM
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"Penetration is always a defeat for the woman and a victory for the man," is one of the aphorisms that Engdahl, the son of a military officer, published in one of his books. Here's another: "There is a chamber inside every man where there is only room for one thing: he himself. There is also a chamber inside every woman. But it is empty. Not even she herself is inside. The woman waits for someone to fill this chamber."

Engdahl seems like an enlightened man.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/behind-the-scandal-at-the-swedish-academy-a-1207928.html


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:03 AM
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Very Freudian.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:04 AM
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NO ONE RISES SO HIGH AS HE WHO KNOWS NOT WHITHER HE IS GOING.


Posted by: OPINIONATED HORACE ENGDAHL | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:08 AM
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"I still remember that day very clearly," says Witt-Brattström, whose marriage with Engdahl, with whom she has three grown sons, came to an end in 2014. "I came home from a lecture on the history of female resistance. Horace looked as though he had taken heroin. He was dancing around. He had just accepted his election to the worst bastion of the cultural patriarchy."

taken from the same Spiegel article. I guess it answers my questions.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:11 AM
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Especially if your question is how many grown sons do Engdahl and Witt-Brattström have.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:14 AM
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"There is a chamber inside every man where there is only room for one thing: he himself. There is also a chamber inside every woman. But it is empty. Not even she herself is inside. The woman waits for someone to fill this chamber."

Not really the same, but I was struck by the word "partly" in these Drake lyrics at the gym this morning:

She said, "Do you love me?" I tell her, "Only partly. I only love my bed and my momma, I'm sorry."

It just seemed such a forthright description of what it's like for (some) young adults - no real capacity to care for this other person, not like the deep love he has for his mother. And his bed.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:16 AM
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I just figured out that one of the annoying songs where the guy raps in a barely audible mumble is Drake. Before I only knew who he was from the meme with the orange jacket.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:18 AM
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There is a chamber inside every man where there is only room for one thing: he himself.

That seems like a very roundabout way to say men are shit.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:19 AM
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There are 18 members of the Academy. Or supposed to be.

Three resigned - or rather stopped turning up, because until this year you couldn't resign, membership was for life - in 1989 because the Academy refused to issue a statement in support of Salman Rushdie. One has since died and was replaced.

Another one stepped down in 2005 because he didn't think Elfriede Jelinek should have won the Nobel. He has since died and been replaced by a woman called Sara Danius, who subsequently became secretary of the academy.

So the academy was two short at the start of this year.

Then the sexual assault allegations about Arnault (whose wife Katarina Frostenson is an academy member) came out. The Academy investigated (because some of the assaults may have been on Academy property) and passed their report on to the authorities, who charged Arnault with rape the week before last.

Some members of the Academy wanted to respond by kicking Frostenson out of the Academy, but the vote went against them.
Following that, three academy members (who wanted Frostenson kicked out) and Danius (who seems to have wanted Frostenson kicked out as well, but ) have all resigned. As has Frostenson herself.

So now the Academy is down to 11 members.

The BBC's coverage has been good on this, if you want to know more. The Guardian coverage is really only good if you already know what has been happening from somewhere else.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:21 AM
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It's been all downhill for Sweden since the battle of Lutzen.


Posted by: Opinionated Gustavus Adolphus | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:21 AM
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I BESEECH YOU, IN THE BOWELS OF CHRIST, THINK IT POSSIBLE YOU MAY BE A SHIT.


Posted by: OPINIONATED HORACE ENGDAHL | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:22 AM
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18: Queen Kristina had some good times. Weird, but good.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:37 AM
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Just in case any of you were still thinking of Sweden as a paradise of progress and equality.

Honestly, I'm mostly just envious of not having to maintain employer-based health coverage to avoid being bankrupted if me or someone in my family gets sick.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:45 AM
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Speaking of the Swedish cultural scene, I highly recommend Ruben Östlund's The Square which is a hilarious and devastating satire. There's this set piece which is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen on film and could come straight out of Buñuel.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:48 AM
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Trump's going to win a Nobel now, isn't he?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:01 AM
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23: Bob Dylan won it for his song lyrics, so the logical next step is for Trump to win for his tweets.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:09 AM
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iThere's this set piece which is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen on film and could come straight out of Buñuel.

The scene with Terry Notary, right? Can't say I enjoyed it, but then I don't know that I've ever enjoyed any Bunuel either.

I did crack up at the viral ad for "The Square" exhibit.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:21 AM
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Probably repeating 10, but "There is a chamber inside every man where there is only room for one thing" sounds like a desperate cry from a man who is afraid to admit to himself that he needs some fulfilling anal sex. And what a reprehensible view of women.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:36 AM
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I assume the whole Swedish Academy is into pegging.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:49 AM
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25 That's the scene. Astonishing. Great film. One of my favorites from last year.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:52 AM
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Looks like it's on Hulu atm?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:04 AM
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If the Swedish Academy can't function, is there a Norwegian one that could pick the Nobel?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:18 AM
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Hmm. I was initially keen on seeing The Square because I liked Force Majeure so much but just the cut of the scene in question that was in the trailer was so off-putting that I never got around to it. I guess I will reconsider.

Now that I've looked him up, though, Terry Notary seems very interesting.

I just finished one of the several tour-of-the-Nordics books that's come out in the past few years since everybody discovered Danish tv and in a little over 300 pages the author managed to kill the crush I had on Scandinavia+ and convince me that it's full of the least fun people on Earth, of which the Swedish were meant to be the most dour of all. I really enjoyed the crush while it lasted, though.


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:35 AM
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|| My wife may have found her next profession in this article. Barry probably has a leg up though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2018/06/22/a-shopping-mall-wanted-to-evict-its-pigeons-so-it-hired-a-hawk/?utm_term=.3b7fc88d18db |>


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:59 AM
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Pfff. I bet Barry can't eat a raw pigeon half as well as your wife.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:02 AM
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I hate pigeons and I'm so glad I moved to a new apartment away from that lot where someone is raising a couple hundred of them. Also my windows have no outside ledges for them to sit and coo and poo on.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:35 AM
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And he's never going to get better with that attitude.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:38 AM
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33: Ha! Though the article does say that they scare the pigeons rather than eating them...

34: I thought of you, Barry, because of your flying with falconers story. Though I suppose that RH has also been a big hunting with birds fan too.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:54 AM
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36 - I'm just a falconry enthusiast at a distance and have never tried it, but I did meet one of the Hawk Pros falconers once. Total dream job.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:00 AM
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Imagine: a world without seagulls at the beach. A world without pigeons at the mall. This is a world we can have -- thanks to birds that are more awesome, other birds and scare and eat them. and people who put cool-looking medieval hoods over the awesome birds and then unleash them for total avian mastery.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:03 AM
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36.2 I definitely need to do some more falconry when the weather cools down.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:50 AM
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31. Never been to Scandinavia myself, but a friend of mine (of Swedish descent) learned the language and studied up on the place and was planning to spend months or even years there. Verdict, returning after a month?: "A nation of policemen."

38. The larger raptors will also take cats and small dogs. YMMV whether this is a plus or a minus.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:50 AM
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36 I intend to do my bit.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:52 AM
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40.1 - I am 100% ABSOLUTELY in favor of raptors getting rid of cats, especially stray cats. A fucking army of eagles eating every stray cat in Southern California wouldn't be enough vengeance for what the cats have already done to the birds.

I'm also in favor of coyotes eating stray cats and small wandering dogs. In fairness, though, I haven't put a lot of effort into my "Coyote Van" side hustle business where I drive coyotes from the parts of the city where they are numerous to other parts of the city where there are lots of stray cats has yet to get off the ground.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:57 AM
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Could we volunteer to take over the Nobel Prize in Literature awarding? Who could possibly be more qualified than a bunch of random people on the internet?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:18 PM
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42: Without the stray cats, won't the rat population near you explode again?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:24 PM
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Fuck


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:26 PM
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45: Don't feel bad. Other then that it was a great plan.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:27 PM
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Way ahead of you.


Posted by: Opinionated Rat | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:28 PM
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There is a semi-large group of people who care for stray cats and I seem them on NextDoor in the winter. Apparently, they put out shelters made from old coolers fill with straw so that cats can survive the winter. Except that cats were surviving winters here before Styrofoam was invented. Maybe they weren't surviving very well?

They don't talk about feeding them, I assume because they know somebody will call animal control to stop piles of food from attracting rats.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:30 PM
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Coyotes eat rats, too.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:31 PM
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Even if they can get a nice juicy cat?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:31 PM
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Anyway, there may be more to urban ecology that my hasty theorizing indicates.

My favorite neighbor is the one who wanted to call somebody to rescue the raccoon on the shoulder of the parkway.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:33 PM
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I'm sure there's some sort of extended Lotka-Volterra equation that tells you the optimal number of coyotes and cats to have so that the population of rats and cats are both minimized.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:33 PM
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I don't recall that I've seen a coyote in Pennsylvania. Which, I guess, isn't unexpected since they keep hidden.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:36 PM
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Had a run-in with two coyotes at the river the other morning. My good big dog was unphased, kept the calm, uninterested manner he generally uses with any other dog. I was glad he wasn't any smaller. I am all for coyotes, but did not find them at all endearing in reality.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:38 PM
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Bread bread

(How do we gently break it to Halford that predators depend on prey continuing to exist?)

Bread bread


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:39 PM
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Well for starters you can't be wrapping the bad news in grains.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:55 PM
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A shit turducken, perhaps.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:56 PM
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55 - Don't underestimate me. Don't think there's not a plan. The cats will kill the rats. The eagles and coyotes will kill the cats. The songbirds the cats killed will come back to feed the eagles. The coyotes who ate the cats will have no more cats to eat and can't catch songbirds so will eat the rats. At the top of the pyramid, mountain lions will eat the coyotes. It's the circle of life, shifted towards favoring more awesome and less annoying animals.

That's only some of the problem animals though. I can't really figure out what gets rid of the ants besides ant poison, though. Maybe a shit-ton of aardvarks.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:59 PM
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And checking on Wikipedia, I'm starting to really like using the aardvark in this scheme. It hoovers up annoying creatures (ants). It's an awesome animal itself. Its only predators are other awesome animals like lions, leopards, hyenas, and humans. If my management scheme leads to tons of aardvarks, great, who wouldn't want to live around tons of aardvarks. If they can't sustain a big population because they ate most of the ants, that's good too, fewer ants. And we can use the aardvarks to help feed other awesome animals like lions.

Aardvarks are the answer.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 4:08 PM
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a shit-ton of aardvarks

That was the name of my garage band in high school.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 4:17 PM
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Hey Barry if you're up, have you signed up for Fandor/Filmstruck trials while you're in country? I'm really curious what you think of Kaili Blues. If you need credentials, I think I can hook you up, email me at pseud numeral zero at yahoo.
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Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:08 PM
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Today, after a very long, long wait (partly my fault, for making a mistake in the paperwork and having the forms returned to me to start all over again...), I got something in the mail that makes me very happy, and that also gives me an enormous sense of relief. My son now has a Certificate of Canadian Citizenship, which "certifies and declares that [he] is a Canadian citizen, and, as such, is entitled to all the rights and privileges and bears all the responsibilities, duties and obligations of a Canadian subject."

His response? Yawn. Yeah, whatever, Mom. O callow youth! But he now has a real exit option, which he may want to use at some point in the future. And he is now eligible for a Canadian passport, which is a handy little document to have.

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Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:38 PM
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61 Thanks fm. I've been dying to see it. I've also heard great things about Gan Bi's latest film Long Day's Journey Into Night. Filmstruck isn't licensed for Arrakis and I don't think Fandor is either but I will try to watch it while I'm still in NY. I'll send an email in the morning or hit me up at the email below if you're still up.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:06 PM
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59. Don't aardvarks dig big holes while looking for ants to hoover up? That would mess up our landscaping. On the other hand, we have coyotes (sometimes in our back yard) and outdoor cats don't last long around here.

48. Some people feed feral cats, some capture them, get them spayed, and release them. In our neighborhood, some people feed the wild turkeys, which I think is a step too far.

51. I'd call the police over a stranded raccoon. On the other hand, we don't have much actual crime here; it would give the police something to do.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:43 AM
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How the raccoon got between you and the phone, I'll never know.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:24 AM
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My friend (who is a vet) brought a (young) raccoon to our exercise class last week. I was so bummed to discover that she brought it out for cuddles after I'd left.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 12:35 PM
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That's what you get for not remembering "two fingers only."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 12:39 PM
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Black Panther is very good so far. Somebody should have mentioned this.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 1:11 PM
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Bilbo has a perfect American accent.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 1:32 PM
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The internet is terrrible but it brought us the concept of "trash panda" so it's not all bad


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 1:36 PM
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Doesn't one catch terrible diseases from raccoons?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:05 PM
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Yes. A horrible brain disease. Stay away from their stools.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:09 PM
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Their sofas are fine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:10 PM
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If one can see raccoon sofas presumably it's already too late.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:16 PM
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I'm having tattoo indigestion on Daddy Cat. The four kittens turned out wonderful, and they were my primary concern, so I feel a little bit like this is the cost - if I had to choose, I'd choose the kittens to look great, so this is what I get.

That said, it bothers me, and I'm not sure how much she'll be able to fix it, and on top of that, I have to have a very clear idea of how to tell her to fix it, because I don't trust her as an artist anymore. Whenever she's left to her own devices, instead of just straight copying, things go off the rails.

It's hard to balance trying to figure out how it should be fixed with trying to relax and accept that it might not get fixed. It's making me increasingly upset instead of relaxed.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:46 PM
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Daddy Raccoon instead? They're all black, so she can just ink over everything while you whimper in agony.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:48 PM
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No wait, that's panthers. Daddy Panther. Much better than a raccoon, actually.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 3:49 PM
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75: Can't you just take a break and until you have an exact thing she can copy?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:17 PM
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Yes, definitely. We have an appointment tomorrow for mama cat, which is strict copying and should be okay.

The thing is, the variable I can't determine without her help is how much she's able to lighten things using white ink. I was considering asking her to just lighten things without adding any replacement lines so I could see how much it can be lightened.

My mom and I each have attempted a face-fix, painting over a photo of the tattoo, but I don't know if they're too ambitious.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:29 PM
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Also I imagine a better artist could do better than me, at least.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:30 PM
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My son just got a "satisfactory" for his behavior in art class. I could ask him.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:37 PM
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Some people have higher standards.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 4:55 PM
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Art is the worst, but everyone who wants kids to not learn it seems to be an asshole, so I insist he participate attentively.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 6:13 PM
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I was just thinking that heebie might like the ink that is to be irreversibly drilled into her skin to be better than just satisfactory.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 6:29 PM
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If Nero Wolfe got a sweet tat of a fire-breathing dragon clutching a Cattleya, he would say, "Satisfactory", and mean it.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:02 PM
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I'm a bit fussy, it's true.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:20 PM
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We don't have any electricity, so tattooing will be slow until it comes back on.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:50 PM
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I think Texas has its own grid?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:52 PM
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Did that comment get sent by owl?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:52 PM
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Mine wasn't?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 7:54 PM
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59: Aardvarks are the aanswer, obvsly.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-24-18 11:46 PM
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Aardvarke is die antwoord, natuurlik.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-25-18 12:42 AM
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(FTFY)


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-25-18 1:43 AM
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Aardvarks are rappers?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-25-18 5:43 AM
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No. Just bilingual.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-25-18 5:55 AM
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Halford's love for the aardvark is overdetermined.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 06-25-18 9:55 AM
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