Re: Salazar

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Slytherin?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 7:26 AM
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"If you want to get elected, you need to pretend to be an immigrant-loving working-class leftist" seems to be a good message to get out there.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 7:30 AM
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College kids usually try different identities. Or at least, often.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 7:51 AM
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CONVERSOS CAN CONTRIBUTE!


Posted by: OPINIONATED SPINOZA | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 7:53 AM
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I think that if Spinoza could see today's world, he would be impressed by our religious freedom and our eyeglasses in about an hour.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 7:56 AM
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2: well, exactly. Nothing wrong with the identity she has fashioned! Even the arrest story seems like a stretch from people bent on character assassination until they get to the part where she accused her alleged victim of pretending to be Salazar pretending to be herself, which is so insanely farfetched as to seem self-incriminating. I mean, maybe there's an innocent explanation for that, like getting exceptionally bad legal advice.

The claimed conspiracy, as noted by the first judge assigned to the case in a hearing, was quite novel. In Salazar's final version of the events, Hernandez had (a) called her own bank, (b) imitated Salazar's voice, (c) created a new password, (d) deliberately flubbed a security question, (e) waited for the bank to call her with the recordings of her own calls, and then (f) gone to the police with her meticulously self-manufactured evidence. Both sides retained voice analysts to support their contentions.

Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 8:06 AM
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her alleged victim of pretending to be Salazar pretending to be herself,

This is David Brooks-ian!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 8:09 AM
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Nobody can pretend to be David Brooks without five years of practice in assholeism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 8:11 AM
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her alleged victim of pretending to be Salazar pretending to be herself,

This is more Wodehouse-ian - more than one of his Blandings Castle impostors has ended up impersonating themselves. (Piccadilly Jim)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 8:13 AM
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Sorry, obviously should have been "pretending to be her."


Posted by: Lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 8:16 AM
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I'd answer the 'would you ever vote for her' question with a question of my own: primary or general? I have a very high threshold when the alternative is a Trump supporter.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 9:22 AM
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I suspect the arrest and lawsuit will produce a lot more concrete, usable information than the identity stuff.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 9:29 AM
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Plenty of people think the whole point of college is to turn Christian kids into secular leftists. Why not try Judaism along with it?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 9:34 AM
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Young men seem to be wearing hats these days anyway.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 9:38 AM
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More Salazar news from today.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 9:41 AM
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That is quite an exciting life she leads.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 10:26 AM
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She's a hustler. If she votes the right way and avoids corruption, no problem! But the capacity for her to be become a stereotypical NY politician is extremely high.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 10:28 AM
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Heebie, harassment reported:
http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_16623.html#2017684


Posted by: FB | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 10:34 AM
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17: What are you implying about the stereotype?


Posted by: Opinionated Andrew Cuomo | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 10:43 AM
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From 15, Dilan's last challenger, Debbie Medina, stopped campaigning months before the primary when it was revealed she'd abused her son as a child -- her son went on to beat his then-girlfriend's toddler to death. Medina still got roughly 40 percent of the vote.

Being the kind of person who wants to go into politics is amazing as a baseline, I guess. I have friends who've worked very hard for Salazar and who have a lot of faith in her as a person and leader. And she's the first major(ish) candidate to really come out of DSA membership, but I don't know that that says anything meaningful about DSA either.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 11:16 AM
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---After publication, we received the following statement from Adam Hecht, a lawyer for Julia Salazar: "Kai Hernandez's bizarre and fraudulent attempts to defame and victimize Julia were recognized as baseless by the authorities, who declined to file charges, and this matter was resolved with a monetary settlement of $20,000 in Julia's favor."---

maybe she sued because Kai Hernandez is a nutcase who got her arrested?


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 11:59 AM
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I would vote for her because I agree with her policy ideas.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:06 PM
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Martin Dilan appears to be recognized far and wide as corrupt and the best friend of landlords. Is he beloved for other reasons? Good constituent service?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:07 PM
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I'm too lazy to read links, so has anyone excavated the truth of her identity? Based on OP she could be a non-authoritarian escaping evangelism (in which case she's probably fine), or an authoritarian pivoting effortlessly from one creed to another (not fine at all).


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:27 PM
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24: The truth of her identity? 13 seems accurate.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:39 PM
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23: Dilan is a member in good standing of the local Democratic machine, which is cheerfully corrupt (and sadly effective) in preserving itself.


Posted by: filip | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:41 PM
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I would probably vote for her, too.

20.last: We do have a bunch from both sides of Pennsylvania, but they're running for state representative, not senate, and they don't advertise their DSA membership on their campaign websites. All women, interestingly. And I haven't heard a bad thing about any of them. Of course, they don't have to deal with the degree of malicious investigation that'd occur in NY.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 12:44 PM
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6.2 is next-level crazy, though.

I think I'd vote for her, yes. But I wouldn't be surprised if she blew up something important by acting with poor judgment. But when is that ever surprising?

Being the kind of person who wants to go into politics is amazing as a baseline, I guess.

Yes, that is the lesson! That is always the lesson.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 1:11 PM
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The "identity" stuff is a pure case of who gives a shit. As to a he legal question, it seems weird, but the charges being dropped followed by a successful defamation lawsuit is as close to exoneration as our system allows.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 1:16 PM
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Mrs. Hernandez must have really been convinced Salazar was having an affair with Keith to want to frame her for identity theft. What a bizarre story.

Since Dilan isn't a member of the IDC I don't know if it's that important to vote him out. Also he doesn't seem to be noticeably corrupt. Best friend of landlords, that part is true.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 1:27 PM
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If that's what she did to Salazar, imagine what she did to Elaine Benes.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 1:29 PM
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One of the many funny parts of this is that she went from being a pro-Israel Christian to an anti-Israel Jew.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 1:36 PM
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The details do make her sound kind of sketchy. Then again, I don't know anything about her opponent.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 09-11-18 3:13 PM
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I've read a bunch of articles about her since it's pretty entertaining.

I doubt see any reason to think she's unusually opportunistic. She doesn't seem to have told any outrageous whoppers, just distorted and embellished biographical details that have some basis in reality, which I imagine lots of local politicians who don't expect scrutiny do.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 09-12-18 4:02 AM
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I think she's been mildly inaccurate about her background, but that she's getting hammered by politically motivated info dumps. She does seem a little personally odd -- converting to Judaism on the basis of a distant family connection is unusual -- but there's no real wrongdoing and the incumbent she's running against is terrible.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09-12-18 10:52 AM
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That was me.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-12-18 10:57 AM
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Results on Vox. Nothing yet, of course.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-13-18 3:53 PM
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She's up 58% - 42%, 90% of precincts reporting. W00t,


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-13-18 7:08 PM
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She won.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 09-13-18 8:20 PM
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