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Q3. certiorari

Um, none of the above? No hard c or hard t option at all?

I've no idea what traditional American pronunciation would be, so I just went with what I would say, where possible (see above) and allowing for vowel sound differences.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:39 AM
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Oh yeah, and I got 15/25.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:40 AM
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If you are going to use slashes, which implies IPA phonemic notation, use it. And their division into syllables to represent stress is just weird.

I got about 12 in, and I was wrong on most of them, and then gave up in annoyance. By wrong I mean, completely correct for educated North British English.* In fact, I'd need some pretty strong persuading that even the supposed US form is what they represent it as in their strange fucked up notation. Some of them look like they are taking the piss, with the stress on a syllable that I've never heard the stress on, in any pronunciation of that word (Scottish, RP, GenAM, etc).

* I'll fight anyone who argues that I am pronouncing them wrong for British English. And will happily employ arguments from authority.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:47 AM
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2nd ttaM.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:52 AM
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disTRIButive


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:53 AM
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I pronounce it "ooples oond boonoonoos".


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:55 AM
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All those pronunciations are wrong because they leave out the middle "fuck" syllable so characteristic of American English pronunciation in 2018.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:58 AM
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And, for example, "integral", which sense of the word?


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:58 AM
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I can't read the pronunciations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:00 AM
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8: I thought that too! Except I assumed that it was just my quirk to pronounce it differently for calculus purposes.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:05 AM
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I thought that too, of course, and then realized I use the math-pronunciation for everything.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:07 AM
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I got 7 out of the first 8 correct and quit in utter boredom. Several of those seemed to be just regional differences. Soda pop.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:11 AM
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Huh, I got 18/25. I didn't think it would be more than someone of CC's professional background!

I, too, had no good options for "certiorari". All three assumed one pronounces the first "i" separately from the "o"; in their transcription style, I say "suhr-shuh-RAHR-ee". But I'm not sure I've ever said or heard the word verbally.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:12 AM
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Also I'm... surprised it's an option to stress the second syllable in "vagaries".


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:13 AM
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12: And people say Mexicans don't speak English good!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:13 AM
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Yeah, they aren't consistent in writing schwa with "uh". All three options for "defendant" represent the first vowel as "i"; I ignored that.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:14 AM
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re: 14

That was one of the ones where I am sure we are being hazed.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:14 AM
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13/25 too. The first half had me wondering what language I've been speaking. I was saved by my supercilious pronunciation of -able words.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:15 AM
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14: Not just an option -- the correct pronunciation! I don't think I've ever heard any one say it that way, but I think I might give it a try and see how people react.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:15 AM
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Also, it turns out I've never heard anyone say certiorari and a few others. Lots of words ending in ibble, on the other hand.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:17 AM
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I do use the word "vagaries" in conversation, but that's just me being annoying.

I never realized before now that's a word we almost never use in the singular.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:17 AM
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But the OED does validate both pronunciations!

Pronunciation: /ˈveɪɡəri/ /vəˈɡɛːri/

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:18 AM
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Pretty sure none of you actually read the directions. Those are important in quizzes. Also, 10/25 :(


Posted by: Montissimoo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:19 AM
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Pretty sure none of you actually read the directions. Those are important in quizzes. Also, 10/25 :(


Posted by: Montissimoo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:19 AM
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I still say nuk-u-lar is a better word. I don't pronounce it wrong, everyone spells it wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:20 AM
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17/25 and oh come on -- there is no standard pronunciation for "certiorari." There just isn't. What's next, "amicus"?


Posted by: widget | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:22 AM
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re: 23

How so?

I wasn't trying to identify the form for my idiolect. I have a particular regional Scottish accent, overlaid with another different Scottish accent, and then smoothed off, since I spend almost zero of my life speaking to people with my accent of upbringing. I do know the standard form, though, and can translate between those and my accent; which is basically schwa-less, for example, and is rhotic, but not in the way that US accents are rhotic, and has a larger set of monophthongs than RP English, and a _massively_ larger set of monophthongs than GenAm.*

* and was professionally trained to identify and describe those differences, as I have a four year university degree in this stuff.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:26 AM
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I wouldn't even make the connection between the word and its pronunciation. It's the Hermione of legal terms.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:26 AM
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You mean where they instruct you to try to identify the traditionally standard form, even if it seems stodgy? That's a recipe for overthinking and even wronger answers.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:32 AM
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I try and pronounce words so that the people I'm talking to step back and start to laugh nervously, but then fall silent and move quickly away. When they don't I'm doing it wrong (pronounced "wrung-UH").


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:36 AM
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My brain is broken: I want to pronounce "certiorari" using a classical Latin pronunciation, yet I know "cert" uses the S sound.

Choosing to accept as standard one very particular point in time that was long ago--and honestly not a particularly notable point in time--is silly. I mostly just picked the pronunciation least like my own. I do like /gruh-VAY-muhn/ for gravamen, which is very Professor Frink.

I would much rather do the quiz that 23 was implying we thought this was i.e. comparing our idiolects to some more reasonable standard. These small stress differences are the sort of things that are likely to have idiolectal variation.

On OP.last: That technique for multiplication is good--it reinforces basic number properties.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:45 AM
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Little early in the thread, but since it's a grab-bag of fun stuff I figure this is acceptable: Can you save the Roman Republic? It's a simple choose-your-own-adventure game to promote Mike Duncan's book.

I had some issues with Jugurtha, and I don't think I agree his solution would work.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:05 AM
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I pronounce certiorari with a comedy Italian accent as the Lord intended.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:09 AM
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The Republic doesn't even count our votes! #Umbrexit


Posted by: OPINIONATED RUSSIAN BOT | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:16 AM
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For the greater glory of the Certiorari Republic!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:23 AM
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No love for item 2? Seems pretty sensible and is simple and clear. Do schools still teach the old-school version of "long" multiplication? That is, where each digit of the second number is multiplied by the first number as a whole, with little notations above each line to show the overflow for each digit? I can't draw it here but this Wolfram page shows all but the notations part. The notations were always the truly painful bit.

It's how I learned it back in ancient times.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:48 AM
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re: 36.last

Me too. I learned another method for doing it in your head from a book on calculating prodigies that was much closer to the method Heebie outlined in the OP. More fiddly to write out, but easier to hold in your head.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:53 AM
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I remember my dad showing me a method similar to the one in the OP for doing multiplication in your head. The notation-heavy method described in 36 is certainly how I learned it in school though. And of course you had to show your work to get credit.


Posted by: widget | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:01 AM
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Presumably one of the arguments in favor of teaching multiplication this way is that it will make it easier for the students to understand how to multiply polynomials, when it comes time for them to learn algebra. It will basically be the same process, but with variables.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:05 AM
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Went back and took the pronunciation test. 18/25, but I would fight to the death about most of them.

Does anyone say "uhr" for "err"? "To uhr is human?" Really? Does anyone ever say "off-thuhl-MAHL-uh-jee" for "ophthalmology"? I've dealt with plenty of ophthalmologists in my life and never heard the "F" and rarely the first "L" from any of them.

I also missed "gruh-VAY-muhn" for gravamen, but then I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced. (When I was a kid I pronounced the name of Superman's home planet as "cripe-ton" instead of "crip-ton.")

My "dialect" is Maryland-ish with some southern stuff such as the infamous "pen" -> "pin" switch, which I still sometimes do unconsciously even though I've been a damyankee for two-thirds of my life.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:09 AM
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I got 15/25. I agree with the comments above about the various ways in which this quiz is dumb.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:11 AM
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Went back and took the pronunciation test. 18/25, but I would fight to the death about most of them.

We are so passionate!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:16 AM
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36-8: I devised Hawaii's method of doing it in your head in the third grade and held on to it like grim death. I decided my way was superior and was willing to eat the C rather than write down math problems that didn't need to be written down. It is now clearer to my why not all of my teachers liked me, although in my defense I was more than willing to explain my system and why it was better.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:25 AM
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-my +me


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:27 AM
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Do schools still teach the old-school version of "long" multiplication? That is, where each digit of the second number is multiplied by the first number as a whole, with little notations above each line to show the overflow for each digit?

AFAICT, the private schools around here have stubborn Texan parents who insist the old ways are the right ways, and so they teach shitty old school algorithmic math. I take a bit of schadenfreude in this.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:29 AM
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It is now clearer to my why not all of my teachers liked me, although in my defense I was more than willing to explain my system and why it was better.

Teachers love that!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:39 AM
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Oh my god, let me think if I can recreate how Pokey multiplied 50 x 74:
1. First he said, "I need to find half of 74. Subtract ten, 64. Half of that is 32. Add back 5. Ok, 37."
2. Then he said, "37 x 10 = 370", and then he wanted to multiply that by 10 four more times, and then we got into a big fight about keeping track of your copies of 37.
3. Finally he settled on 37 x 4, plus another 37, to get 5 copies of 37.
4. Then he had to multiply by 10 twice.

He did in fact work it out correctly, to get 3700 but holy mother of god is that not very direct.

(I mean, I was pleased with him, but it was quite a brain-strain to follow what he was doing. And he was trying to prove that his method was superior to Hawaii's.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:46 AM
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"Does anyone say "uhr" for "err"? "To uhr is human?" "

My contracts prof called me out for saying "AIR" the first time I had to do a case summary in class as a 1L, so that is indelibly burned in.

Acumen I assume I got wrong because of the REM song.

Anyway I only got 13 right.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:53 AM
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47: divide 74 in half, add back the zeros.

Or use the sliderule on my watch...


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:55 AM
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47: Same, except I'd take 7400 and divide by 2.

It's good that children are taught that it's okay to be weird and idiosyncratic when doing math.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 11:01 AM
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I have heard "err" as "urr", but I do not understand it.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 11:39 AM
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To urr is English, to air is east coast Scottish.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 11:52 AM
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52.last and penis in some dialects of Arabic


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 11:58 AM
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Huh. "acumen" is "uh-KYOO-muhn"? Uh, no.

WTF? "applicable" is "AP-li-kuh-buhl?" No.

On "defendant" as "di-FEN-duhnt" rather than "-dant". Are they rendering "dant" as rhyming with "can't"? I guess so.

Puh. "Err" is not "uhr". Stop that!

Laughing now: "vagaries" is "vuh-GAIR-eez"? I have never, ever heard someone say that.

--
Relatedly, a friend insists on pronouncing "paella" as "pie-el-lia", and orders it so at restaurants. I keep telling him he's wrong, but he just doesn't buy it. We speak of Castilian versus S. American Spanish - he insists that in Spain it's "pie-el-lia". He's wrong, I swear.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 12:11 PM
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Well, 16 out of 25.

"gruh-VAY-muhn", huh? Well, if you say so.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 12:14 PM
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55.2: No one has ever said that word anyway. The pronunciation is hypothetical.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 12:25 PM
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For mental math, I use Hawaii's method (and/or round, depending on how accurate I need to be). The other way worked fine, but I agree that this method should make Algebra a lot easier.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 12:39 PM
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Does anyone say "uhr" for "err"? "To uhr is human?" Really? Does anyone ever say "off-thuhl-MAHL-uh-jee" for "ophthalmology"?

Both of them here. Well, MOHL rather than MAHL, but that's just a general vowel shift.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 12:49 PM
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Many respectable people say "uhr", or "urr" (even though I glance sideways at them when they do it), but still, you don't say "uhr-er" for "error", right? That's the trouble I have with the "uhr/urr" pronunciation for the basic "err."


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:01 PM
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I guess it rhymes with "per".


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:04 PM
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Of course. Which is obviously pronounced "pair".


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:22 PM
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Doesn't "err," when used by British people, often signify the equivalent to American "uhh"?


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:31 PM
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58 Not MOHEL?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:31 PM
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Oh my people, I bring the cock jokes but no one is...uh...biting.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 1:36 PM
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re: 58

I guess I am similar on ophthalmology, although the p isn't completely silent. And I guess I stress the first syllable more, or at least don't strongly stress the third over the first.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 2:33 PM
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Pronunciation: Brit. /ˌɒfθalˈmɒlədʒi/, /ˌɒpθalˈmɒlədʒi/, U.S. /ˌɑpθə(l)ˈmɑlədʒi/, /ˌɑfθə(l)ˈmɑlədʒi/

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 2:37 PM
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I would fight to the death about most of them.

I've realized recently that one big reason I don't want a relationship is having to deal with someone else's annoying pronunciations.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 2:48 PM
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I got "ophthalmologist" wrong and I was just AT the ophthalmologist today. Eyes are dilated to a fair-thee-well. 9/25 and yes I don't talk to anyone here in my basement.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 2:49 PM
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Or should it be "fare-thee-well"? It's probably pronounced "fahr-tha-weal." Geez.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 2:56 PM
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Doesn't "err," when used by British people, often signify the equivalent to American "uhh"?

Yes, but also for (some) English people anyway, the same sound also means to make a mistake.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 3:14 PM
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i love 45 very very much.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 3:55 PM
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71: Phrasing!


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 4:09 PM
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For my next research project I will review the recordings of Supreme Court oral arguments until I hear all of the justices pronounce "certiorari," Daubert," "administrative," and some other Supreme Court words,* and develop a model of the regional dialect differences between Harvard Law School and Yale Law School.

*help me out, lawyers!


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 5:54 PM
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Also, the multiplication algorithm Hawaii uses was taught to me in 1973 or so. It's the new math that Tom Lehrer was singing about, and was abandoned in most places during the Reagan years.


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 5:59 PM
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There's nothing new under the rubric.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:03 PM
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73: I think you're joking but this is indeed a game that people play. You can add "amicus" to your list, as well as how to say the "v." in case names ("Roe versus Wade" / "Roe against Wade"), and I think there's variation on "vacatur" as well although I'm not sure whether it breaks down by law school. Maybe also "interpretive" / "interpretative." And I would recommend flagging examples involving Breyer for potential removal as outliers or he's going to screw your data set up something fierce.


Posted by: widget | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:15 PM
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One of the joys of having a person in the house who's studying Latin, plus knowing my way around 12c French is gaily pronouncing all the bullshit fancy am legal words however the mood takes me in absolute comfort that anyone trying to enforce "rules" re their "correct" pronunciation is more than average up their own butt.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:33 PM
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I worked with a lawyer who pronounced duces tecum as "DOOK-us TEEK-um," which I've adopted.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:38 PM
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All I can contribute is that sketchy Judge Jack Robison pronounces voir dire as "Vor Dire"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:44 PM
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I pronounce it "horse derves".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 6:58 PM
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You can lead a horse to derves, but you can't make it take the little napkin from the tray.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:15 PM
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Moby, what would we do without you?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:40 PM
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This might just be the Jameson talking, but it has occurred to me to be angry that Trumpist fucks are happy to count me as a white guy when they count up SAT scores or not being arrested statistics, but as soon as it comes to political views, the only true white people are either twenty years older or actually trying to fuck a drill press.

In conclusion, I want a new ethnic group, but I don't want to be a classist asshole so somebody else needs to define it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:44 PM
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83 to 82?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:45 PM
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I'm not going to fuck a drill press, if that's what you're implying.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:48 PM
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It's not my best metaphor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 7:53 PM
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The drill press is the white man's sybian.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:03 PM
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At the end of the week, I'm going to be tested in performative upper middle classness, which I can totally nail, so long as I remember they don't think of it as a performance.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:03 PM
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So I'm in Canada for a few days. Didn't hear Amy funny pronunciations or see any weird math. I was joined in the hot tub by a pleasant Chagrin couple: the man, a firefighter, described incredulously how guys at his firehouse had definite opinions about Brett Kavanaugh.

Best reality show going.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:10 PM
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Calgarian couple.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:11 PM
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89 What was the nature of their opinions?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:14 PM
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Usual shit: triggers the libs don't belive the woman who would surely have reported wayback when if it was real. Fox news stuff.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:17 PM
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Calgarian firefighter stared talking about Anita Hill and they'd never heard of her. Never heard of Roe either. Just our guy versus the liberal mob.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:20 PM
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92 I was hoping for something more encouraging from Canada.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:26 PM
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Nobody tell Barry about Jordan Peterson.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 8:39 PM
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I had to do middle class a couple months ago. It was pretty rough. I guess I'm urbane on a good day, but all the bons mots that came into my head were about the destruction of their (our?) way of life. They were all talking about when to move out of Cambridge (for the children) and what the best preschools are, "longterm". I desperately wanted to say that since we were looking at School of the Americas, "longterm", we were thinking about this excellent counterinsurgency daycare in Belmont. Christ.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:13 PM
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I hear there are several excellent ICE immersion programs in the southwest.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:15 PM
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Bad taste? I blame fm.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 9:18 PM
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Every daycare is counterinsurgency daycare. If you'd actually said that, you would just have sounded naive.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 10- 8-18 10:13 PM
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I know people who moved out of Cambridge "for the children" and then moved back "for the parents," though they didn't put it that way.

And seconding 99!


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 4:54 AM
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The Cambridge in Ohio?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 5:25 AM
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How do Americans say "Cambridge"?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 5:27 AM
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 5:30 AM
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92: triggers the libs don't belive the woman who would surely have reported wayback when if it was real. Fox news stuff.

humorously, I haven't really been triggered at all by the whole brutal, "checkmate libtards" affair, despite dr ford's moving testimony. this is because I would never expect mitch mcconell or lindsey "fuck you, lindsey graham" graham to believe me/care at all if I explained that I was raped, so, no disappointment. loathsome toads with withered castor beans for souls gonna toad.

lindsey says kavanaugh was treated like a slut whore drunk. and, I mean, it's obvious he is a slut whore drunk! He should own it; slut whore drunks can be be youth league soccer coaches and--well, I don't know that they're the perfect carpool companions, but whatever. they can demand hot female clerks just as well as sober men. I guess it's cool that alcoholic slut-americans have better representation with a justice on the supreme court now.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 5:56 AM
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no one feel sorry for me; I was just bringing it up to show that you can accelerate the car of public discourse past triggering victims and through the other side to outright evil, which it is possible to regard with an impersonal, universal horror.


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103: I thought it was great, but I'm not sure if we've ever agreed on anything. (Wait.. I think we both like Moby Dick.). It gets quite a bit more astoundingly vicious, so if you like vicious...


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 6:09 AM
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I don't know if I like vicious. I kind of am vicious, but inconsistently and not in a self-fulfilled kind of way.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 6:14 AM
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Because of the internet, we should be able to make a horror that is both personal and universal.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 6:17 AM
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27:

"...choose the traditionally standard pronunciation, by which I mean the pronunciation overwhelmingly favored by American manuals...Your mission is to try to identify the traditional forms--even if perhaps only the stodgiest speaker would use every one of them...For the most accurate results, try saying the word first and then choose the pronunciation that matches your own"

These are the instructions - which contradict themselves nicely in just a couple sentences, even for an online quizzicle.


Posted by: Montissimoo | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 6:40 AM
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How do Americans say "Cambridge"?

"Came Bridge"


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 7:14 AM
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Bos-ton


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 8:51 AM
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Like, really vicious.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 9:38 AM
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You hit me with a flower


Posted by: Opinionated Lou Reed | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 12:59 PM
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106: " (Wait.. I think we both like Moby Dick.)"

The lack of a possessive in that sentence comes as a relief.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 1:18 PM
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114: speak for yourself. A possessive could have brought the thread to life like nothing else.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 1:45 PM
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A possessive would also come as a relief, at least for Moby.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 1:57 PM
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My wife won't let me make a fan club


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 2:20 PM
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100 - when you say "parents", do you mean for themselves or for their aging parents? Because I could totally believe that Cambridge's elder services were better than the ones in the suburbs.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10- 9-18 2:32 PM
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Kellyanne Conway, in the course of defending Kavanaugh, revealed that she, too, had been a victim of sexual assault. As best as I can reckon, no reporter asked her whether she agreed with Trump that such an assault, if it happened, would have been reported to the authorities.


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118. By "for the parents" I meant "for themselves," meaning they couldn't stand life in the suburbs. There's also a "thing" in the UMC suburbs of Boston where you move in for the high reputation schools and when your kids attain college age you move to somewhere cheaper. (Not that Cambridge* qualifies as cheaper.)

* Maybe Cambridge, OH qualifies?


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10-10-18 6:06 AM
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It must. I can't imagine why else it is populated.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-10-18 6:11 AM
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95: Nobody tell Barry about Jordan Peterson.

I am not interested enough to read the details, but apparently Peterson tweeted against Fuckface O'Kavanaugh and it has caused some (surely short-term) schisming.


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