Re: May I riff with CBD-curious?

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My mom has been suffering from persistent arm pain for the past year, and my brother got her some cbd gel. He didn't tell her what it was because he thought she'd be freaked out. (There's a little marijuana leaf graphic on the bottle, but she's pretty naive about these things.). Anyway, she says it helps.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:34 AM
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I didn't even know what that stood for.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:35 AM
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Two years ago, I never heard of it. Now I see many signs for it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:36 AM
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Yeah. All the head shops in our neighborhood advertise it. The big legal drugs now are CBD and kratom.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:38 AM
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If alcohol was good enough for Ulysses S. Grant, it's good enough for me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:41 AM
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I tried it when I had a frozen shoulder, for which it did nothing whatsoever. (It had been passed on to me by a friend with fibromyalgia, for whom it also did nothing.) I gave it in turn to a friend whose son suffers from acute anxiety due to smoking too much skunk, and she says it's helped him immensely. So who knows.


Posted by: Ume | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:42 AM
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We tried to give some to our 5am-waking spaz of a cat, but couldn't get him to take it. Haven't tried it ourselves.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:42 AM
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I was confused to see lots of signs for CBD products in London, but apparently it's legal in the UK as long as there's virtually no THC.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:48 AM
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I didn't actually know what CBD was, and after Googling and finding a seemingly appropriate web site, I got blocked by my work's net nanny. I'm anticipating an uncomfortable conversation with HR.*

*not really


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:51 AM
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All I know is there was an article about CBD suddenly accounting for over 5% of sales at the local grocery co-op.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:54 AM
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I vape CBD to help going to sleep. It works advertised. I've never tried any creams or edibles.

I think the vape cartridges have some THC in them and are only available at licensed shops.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:55 AM
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My 16 year old son tried some CBD oil because he was having serious anxiety and sleeping problems. He said it made a huge difference in his mood, made him feel cheerful and relaxed and outgoing. He is prone to depression. That was a month ago, and I don't know if it was a very short term thing (and perhaps placebo) or if he is still using it, or if it still works for him. I'll ask.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 8:16 AM
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Useful for me, for depression. I'll skip the impressions and provisos, because those seem to be highly specific to the person, and just say it works better for than any prescription antidepressant I've been on.

I switched from prescription meds to pot a couple years ago, and just recently to the vaporizer cartridges, which I resisted trying for a long time for no good reason. Far prefer them do dealing with pipes. My one complaint is, I guess, market-related. I find a cartridge that doesn't leave me feeling too high and that doesn't stop working half-way through, and then it apparently goes unavailable.


Posted by: grumbles | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 8:29 AM
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I do not, but a very mainstream medical assistant I know, who works in primary care, does.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:07 AM
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She likes the oil for pain.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:08 AM
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We like the oil for gain.


Posted by: Opinionated Exxon | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:09 AM
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I like the oil for Wayne.


Posted by: Garth | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:10 AM
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They like the oil for brain.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:23 AM
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I like the oil for the stain.


Posted by: Tide | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:31 AM
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It transformed my anxiety-ridden boyfriend. He was drinking to handle the anxiety, now vapes for it. Obvious, perceivable change since the first try. Now he vapes as needed, which is sometimes not for several days. I haven't figured out how much is the relief from anxiety from CBD and how much is the knowledge that he can alleviate the anxiety as soon as it starts. It has worked like magic since November and he is so much calmer that I am astonished. I hadn't realized how anxiety-ridden he was until he wasn't anymore.

The first time I tried it, I got the longest continuous sleep at night that I could remember. But that effect hasn't kept up for me.


Posted by: no name for this | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:38 AM
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Has CBD been studied for side-effects and dependence compared to conventional drugs for these prolems?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:56 AM
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No.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 10:03 AM
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My spouse was interested in trying CBD for some pretty severe anxiety, but found something claiming a "up to 10%" chance that it would register as pot on a drug screening test, depending on the exact test and the exact source and preparation of the CBD. They're technically subject to random drug tests at work, although it hasn't happened in a decade at that job. All that said, a 10% chance of failing a technically-possible test is, well, the kind of thing that increases your anxiety instead of decreasing it.


Posted by: Calvin Coolidge | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 10:51 AM
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Pro tip: Young children almost always have clean pee.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 10:53 AM
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The awkward part is always carrying it with you to work.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 10:54 AM
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24: That's why you need to keep on having new children. You don't want to find out your tween is a druggie and lose your job at the same time!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 11:34 AM
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Kratom sounds like it should be the preferred drink of Conan the Barbarian.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 12:07 PM
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Red stater but I noticed earlier this week that the vape shop across from the yarn shop sells it. I had always assumed they, uh, did, but it's clearly specified now. I know a lot of people who take CBD stuff. I have not tried.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 12:08 PM
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The sex toy shop in my town closed down and they are opening a CBD shop in its place. Previously I had been getting my CBD gummy bears at the local head shop, but I would be interested to see if I can score some vape at this new place.

I don't use it that much, due to the lack of psychoactive effect, but I do think taking it orally helps some with muscle soreness and backpain-type stuff. What has been most effective is rubbing the oil on a sore spot on you body, and it dulls the pain for a while.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 12:10 PM
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20 sounds great, especially 20.last but unfortunately this sounds like the kind of thing I could get seriously busted for here.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 12:10 PM
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CBDG would be a good name for a club.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 12:19 PM
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There's a CBD vending machine in my subway station.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 2:44 PM
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I've heard anecdotally lots of differing things about Kratom: it's great as an alternative to marijuana (because you can pass a drug test); it makes you do crazy shit, including making some people suicidal; it's great as an alternative to opioids; there are wildly different "strains" out there, which makes it unpredictable; it's awesome; it's terrible.


Posted by: John Adams | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 3:27 PM
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32: what!!


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 4:03 PM
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It's where you catch trains that go underground, in tunnels. Some fancy coastal places have them.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 5:51 PM
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But that's not important right now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 6:10 PM
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People claim CBD isn't psychoactive, but it has a very clearly noticeable effect on my mind; in particular it seems to make me flinch from fewer thoughts, which effectively makes me substantially smarter (and also less of a tool). In hindsight I had a lot of background anxiety that I was covering up. Unsurprisingly it combines well with THC.

Kratom can be addictive, and harmful in large doses or if taken for too long, much like opiates, and dosage is harder to assess. I know people who've taken it recreationally and done fine, but I also know someone who got fucked up. They were using it to medicate pretty strong chronic pain, though, and it seems to have provided pain relief in the meantime. I can't strongly recommend staying away from it, but there's a reason I haven't tried it.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 6:31 PM
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33: Unlike CBD, people have died. It looks like the Kratom deaths are all (or nearly all) are because of drugs being taken at the same time or adulterants in the Kratom which interact with it. But how you're supposed to know something else wasn't mixed in there, I don't know.


Posted by: Gerald Ford | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 6:51 PM
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The problem is that CBD supplements (like most/all supplements) aren't regulated so it's hard to tell if they actually contain the levels of CBD they claim to.


Posted by: Ponder Stibbons | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 7:39 PM
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The work toward a reliable effect proceeds.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 3-19 9:02 PM
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Italy also has CBD shops. I gave it a try when I was there last summer and found that the only noticeable effect for me was instant sobriety after drinking wine.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 3:31 AM
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That's really not useful for me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 4:11 AM
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Seeing as how you're so far from Italy.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 4:53 AM
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Maybe like Batman needs instant sobriety at times.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 5:11 AM
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He has ginger ale in his champagne glass. I can't believe you don't know this.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 5:26 AM
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Perrier, surely.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 5:33 AM
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So others at the ball think he's drinking. (Comic book writers.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 5:53 AM
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I haven't seen any Batman movies since the one with the nipples.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 5:53 AM
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I liked yesterday's Onion headline: "New 'Joker' Trailer Introduces Iconic Villain To Same Generation Of Fans."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 6:03 AM
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Wait, they made a movie called Shazam and they didn't put Sinbad in it?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 8:09 AM
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50: There are going to be arguments about whether he was in it for-ever.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 8:39 AM
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Last Year at Sinbad


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:03 AM
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The next dark reimagining.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:20 AM
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I've been taking it for awhile now to help with anxiety and sleep. I find it is very effective with my anxiety, which has the benefit of helping me sleep as my mind is quieter, but no real soporific effects otherwise. Mine is the THC-free sort that you can get in the UK.

It may be all placebo but I don't care because hey, I'm less anxious, and that's a good thing.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:49 AM
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Kind of on topic: When they rescued those boys from the cave, they put them on ketamine before taking them out. Into the K-hole to get out hole-hole.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:53 AM
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Applause for 52


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 10:17 AM
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()!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 11:22 AM
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After watching the all-Sinbad production of Last Year at Marienbad, perhaps the world will be ready for my Berlin Jasonalexanderplatz.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 11:51 AM
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Pretty much every convenience store in the Triangle has a CBD product display by the register now.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 12:06 PM
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I think my neighborhood has more vape shops than convenience stores. Because if the urbanity and because they can't sell beer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 12:36 PM
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Ali G: Fear Eats the Soul


Posted by: Lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 1:27 PM
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La Jesseventura

Don't test me. I can go all night.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 1:49 PM
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I find it pretty nice when I've gotten too stoned and am getting a bit anxious. The dog gets CBD edibles before he gets on airplanes and he's been a lot better about turbulence.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 6:09 PM
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Your dog flies often enough that you have a process for it?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 6:29 PM
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So many dogs in airplanes these days.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 6:35 PM
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And emotional support peacocks.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 7:52 PM
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66: Not to mention falcons.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:07 PM
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We don't live near family (we move so much that it doesn't feel like we really 'live' anywhere) so we fly ~2x a year to see them. It is cheaper to bring the dog than to board him for the time. Plus neither my parents nor parents-in-law have grand kids so they have gotten to really like the dog (sometimes more than us; he didn't choose to not buy a house in the suburbs nor have kids in our 20s). We don't have the emotion-support certification, we just pay $100 and bring him on board in his soft-side crate that fits under the seat in front.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04- 4-19 9:40 PM
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An acquaintance asked her FB universe for tips on where she could get a "Service Animal" vest for her dog, so that she could bring the dog more places. I was shocked at her brazenness, but then I calmed down and thought, "What do I care if people are out there with fake service dogs?" (I would have stronger feelings if there were direct evidence that a fake service dog bit someone, or made someone allergic, or crapped on someone's carpet unduly.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:41 AM
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Waiting until after somebody gets bitten seems overly generous.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:45 AM
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I want to understand the distinction between crapping on someone's carpet "unduly" and doing so appropriately.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:49 AM
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Rule 36


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:51 AM
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It is ridiculous for any business (or whatever) to have a policy of "No Dogs Except Guide Dogs". Guys, if there is a good reason not to have dogs in your business, like hygiene or public safety or whatever, that must include guide dogs. Guide dogs are just dogs; they aren't endowed by their Creator with superior cleanliness or moral fibre.
And if there isn't a good reason for you to ban dogs, then you should allow guide dogs - so you don't indirectly prohibit blind people - and all other dogs too. The only possible exception would be if for some reason you could accommodate only a limited number of dogs - this might be the case on a plane - and you want to keep those spaces available for guide dogs.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:56 AM
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I know two people who've talked about getting emotional support certification explicitly as a ruse so they can bring their pets to work or get around landlord bans. I assume the objection is that if the subterfuge is obvious and frequent that makes things worse for people who really need the accommodation; but so much disability is invisible, people should have the muscle memory to accommodate regardless of outward forms.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 5:59 AM
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Service dogs are trained and, when in harness, very different from other dogs in their behavior. Having ridden in the bus with both service dogs, it's very clear that how they are trained to interact with (or more importantly, ignore) other humans is very different from how other dogs act. I'm very happy to accept a trained service dog, but very unwilling to require that other people accept the dog owners' assessment that their dog is fine around people in a confined space.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 6:28 AM
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There are also people with dog allergies, and more dogs = more potential contact with allergens. Highly trained service dogs should be welcome everywhere, but it does in fact piss me off to have people gaming the "emotional support animal" process. It makes the whole category suspect, and could also influence treatment and perception of service dogs.

Not having thought this through very well, I suppose I'd prefer emotional support animals (for autism, PTSD, severe anxiety, etc) to have a similar level of training and certification as traditional service dogs (seeing eye, MS, etc). The problem is that the cost is significant and there's far more demand than supply, but this strikes me as something government should subsidize and organize.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:10 AM
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76.last: IIRC, that was something Al Franken had been pushing in the Senate.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:25 AM
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This thread makes me want to give CBD a try, basically just for fun, but the "unregulated supplement" part is a problem. I'm happy to experiment with myself if I know what I'm actually dosing, but "this might contain half as much as we say! Or three times as much!" really bugs me.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:28 AM
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I'm very happy to accept a trained service dog, but very unwilling to require that other people accept the dog owners' assessment that their dog is fine around people in a confined space.

I'm open to being corrected here but I've never witnessed any problems being caused by a dog being brought into a confined space with other people, except a couple of times when someone almost tripped over one in a pub. All the dog attacks or threatening behaviour I've seen have happened out of doors - parks, farmyards etc. Dogs indoors are well-behaved.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:40 AM
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There have been a number of reported bites on airplanes, as well as indiscriminate pooping.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:52 AM
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Even if well-behaved, dogs shed hair, some people are allergic to / afraid of them. I think those are reasons good enough for most proprietors to ban dogs in general, but not good enough to ban blind people (etc.).


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:56 AM
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Dogs indoors are well-behaved.

I think that may be a selection effect -- it's seriously unacceptable to have a dog indoors in a public place if it's bothering people, and lots of public places don't allow dogs. A strong norm that dogs should be allowed everywhere might give you different indoor dog experiences.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:59 AM
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We get it ajay, you love dogs.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 7:59 AM
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82 is very good methodology.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:01 AM
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I might see more service dogs than most because the school for the blind people is just down the street.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:03 AM
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There have been a number of reported bites on airplanes, as well as indiscriminate pooping.

The latter happened in my office once; it was a guide dog.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:04 AM
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The real question is why the government has done so little to prevent the decline of manufacturing dogs.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:05 AM
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If it was just one poop, it is indiscriminant by definition.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:07 AM
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Running in a treadmill was a solid job, it's true, but people today don't appreciate how hard those dogs had to work.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:14 AM
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I'm happy to experiment with myself if I know what I'm actually dosing, but "this might contain half as much as we say! Or three times as much!" really bugs me.

See, I come from the other direction when it comes to labeling cannabis products. "Why does the government want to make everybody test how much THC is in the weed and stick a label on it? Stoners know good weed from bad weed. We've never needed labels before. Just sell the weed and let the market decide!"

I mean, I get that legal dispensaries need to have a way to justify selling mid-grade bud at $50 an eighth + 20% tax. And for edibles, wax and oil, sure - label that stuff. But it seems like they are dropping a whole regulatory regime on the product for the sake of having a regulatory regime - not to actually provide benefit to the consumers who are buying the regulated product.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:23 AM
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I'm mostly thinking about CBD oil here, which I think is reasonably likely to be manufactured as soybean oil plus cilantro if the producers can get away with it. And since the (supposed) effect is more subtle and medicinal ("doesn't make you high!" is a big selling point) I would like some help distinguishing "this doesn't work for me" from "I've been scammed."


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:46 AM
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I realize that, I was just taking your comment as a tangent to grouse about an issue that's been pissing me off :)

I recon you aren't wrong about fake CBD pills. That certainly seems to be a problem within the broader supplement industry.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:55 AM
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Its funny how supplements seem to be just a part of the general background of fraud with which our culture is rife. And that having fake supplements out there is just kinda the way it is and its unlikely to change for a long time. I don't know what that says about who we are as a people but its not good.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 8:59 AM
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I think similar things are part of all cultures, actually.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 9:01 AM
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We need a "broken windows" for rich-people crimes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 9:01 AM
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"Why does the government want to make everybody test how much THC is in the weed and stick a label on it? Stoners know good weed from bad weed. We've never needed labels before. Just sell the weed and let the market decide!"

It goes like this:

- There are people other than stoners buying weed. They don't know it by reputation
- In the absence of any accurate information, they will go purely based on advertising/branding and distribution
- This advertising will consist of 100% lies
- The products that succeed will be the ones with money behind them to get distribution and professional branding
- People other than stoners will make up the bulk of the market, therefore the stuff they buy will crowd out the stuff that experts know based on word of mouth. The products with good word of mouth will not be able to compete.

Look at any number of industries for examples.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 9:22 AM
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Hi, teofilo!

This thread makes me want to give CBD a try, basically just for fun, but the "unregulated supplement" part is a problem. I'm happy to experiment with myself if I know what I'm actually dosing, but "this might contain half as much as we say! Or three times as much!" really bugs me.

Yeah, that bothers me too. I would like mine to be regulated!

Re: dogs everywhere - we have something like eight office dogs now. They don't all come in at once, but man, our office is just a wasteland of puppy wee and dog shit. It's all been contaminated. And the barking! THE BARKING! (My favourite is when our sales director's tiny Chihuahua left our MD a present on his expensive rug.)


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 10:24 AM
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Oops. New computer, keep forgetting to tick remember personal info.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 10:24 AM
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You really shouldn't leave a toupee on the ground.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 10:42 AM
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78: Anything you buy at a MA dispensary will have been tested at a state certified lab and have a little sticker on the side with the pharmacologically active chemical composition listed out for you.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:02 AM
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People other than stoners will make up the bulk of the market,

I guarantee you 80% of the weed is going to be sold to 20% of the stoners.

But my broader problem is that what you are describing is basically the weed market being fostered into something like the tobacco or the alcohol industry - dominated by large companies who push their product through major advertising channels to national markets.

That's a fucking terrible vision for the future - not when there is a chance to turn it into a cottage industry with small basement growers getting good prices for weed sold through local shops or a neighborhood dealer, where money spent on dope stays in the local economy instead of going to Wall Street and Madison Avenue.

But the urge to tighten restrictions on growing and sales through things like potency testing and seed-to-sale tracing push against that vision, because they ensure that the market will be dominated by large growers who can manage that kind of thing at scale. It ends up being an opportunity for regulatory capture.

Next thing you know, all the kids will be buying Bob Marley brand spliffs from Phillip Morris. But at least they will know exactly how much THC is in them.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:08 AM
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You know what else big companies are good at doing at scale? Everything.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:11 AM
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Right. That's why my proposed regulation is "you can't grow more than 50 plants."

Enforce smallness.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:21 AM
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Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:29 AM
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104: Oops!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:29 AM
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I'll have to put that on my list. But first my mom is guilting me into reading the Mayor Pete autobiography. Its due to arrive any day now and supposedly my wife has to read it too.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:37 AM
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Dogs indoors frequently jump on me and lick me without my permission. That's not my definition of well-behaved.


Posted by: Ponder Stibbons | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 11:38 AM
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Cottage industry pot sounds fine, I guess. But I would be less happy if the small brewers took total control of the beer market. Either they use too much hops or they put something like fruit or coffee in the beer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 12:51 PM
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What's even worse is when they try to make a beer that tastes like coffee without putting coffee in it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:00 PM
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108: That is probably because the 'bland/drinkable' beer segment is already well covered by the big companies. I'm sure craft places would start brewing more pilsners if InBevCoorsMiller disappeared in a puff of merger smoke tomorrow.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:20 PM
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109: I like those since coffee tastes good, coffee tastes good with stout, but I really don't need more caffeine at 9pm when i'm having a beer.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:21 PM
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New Scientist this week has an account of a beer which can also or alternatively be used to develop film. This one is brewed with the cooperation of Kodak but I suspect that quite a number of American craft beers are capable of this, at least with black and white emulsions.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:24 PM
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Great. I'm not using this coffee stout.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:36 PM
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Kodak still exists?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:36 PM
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110: The malty/brown ale segment is underserved, at least in America. (German-style malty beers like Marzen are becoming more popular in my town, but I think that might just be a local trend.) I don't mind the existence of hoppy beers or fruity beers, but there are other interesting styles to explore. If every craft beer place is only working in a handful of the same styles, that feels like market failure.

Admittedly, that may be because craft beer drinkers as a whole have boring bland tastes. Or, that is, their "interesting" and "refined" tastes are boringly uniform.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:37 PM
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I also don't see the variety in not-crazily-alcoholic stouts/porters that I'd like. If I'm drinking a stout, I want it to be served in a full pint; getting it in a fancy 12oz glass to sip on just isn't the experience I want.

Sometimes the only stouts I'll see are coffee/breakfast stouts--I do like them, and I agree with 111 about the caffeine problem. But I end up avoiding them because I don't like having to research to find out whether or not a drink is going to give me an undesirable caffeine buzz (and something that info's hard to find).


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:42 PM
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Pretentious Barrel House IS the first dedicated sour brewery in the Columbus area.

https://www.pretentiousbarrelhouse.com/

As you can imagine we are all bursting with pride.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:52 PM
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Really wish beers had regular labels with calories, grams of caffeine, etc like every other food does.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 1:53 PM
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117: By the Death Kroger.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 2:05 PM
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Can't speak to why alcoholic beverages never got the nutrition-label treatment before, but all the macro brewers have agreed to voluntarily put on labels, coming in a few months: http://www.beerinstitute.org/beer-policy/regulatory/voluntary-disclosure/


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 2:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure 112 is an antitrust violation.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 2:31 PM
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Only if Kodak has a controlling interest in the bars.


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And exists still.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 2:59 PM
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It fucking well does.


Posted by: Opinionated Christopher Nolan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-19 3:04 PM
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I was was walking down the street today and some guys had a table and were giving away free CBD. I had some.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 3:34 PM
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118, 120: For a long time it was actually illegal to provide nutritional information on labels fir akchool-containing drinks. The Bureau of Alcohol, tobacco, and Firearms is the responsible regulator, and it forbade any advertisement that suggested that alcohol was in any way beneficial to health. So you couldn't tell people how much of various vitamins, or how many calories, in a beer. Those restrictions have been partly lifted, but nutritional labels are not required because the FDA has no jurisdiction over alcohol.


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 3:54 PM
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I knew they had those rules, but I thought it was to stop people from using math to figure out which beer had the most alcohol/$.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 4:02 PM
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I stopped by the new CBD store today and picked up a CBD vape and it seems to work but also it is strawberry flavored which is kinda gross and I am concerned that it will give me popcorn lung.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 8:36 PM
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Controlling benefits is one of the priorities that it is desirable and should enforce the necessary rules for the implementation of the genius's thoughts.
thanks


Posted by: فروشگاه اينترنتی | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 11:18 PM
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"We are so frustrated by these mob lynchings that you can't even imagine."
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 6-19 11:32 PM
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Kind of on topic: There's a little dog in here (Starbuck's) lunging at strangers and barking.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 7-19 1:15 PM
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They left with the dog right away.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 7-19 2:18 PM
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OT: AIMHBASP, my cousin's kid went to college in Iowa and in 2016 he had pictures on Facebook with Clinton, Sanders, and the ones I can't remember anymore. Now he's got a picture with Beto.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 7-19 3:56 PM
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O'Malley? Vladislav?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 7-19 4:00 PM
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Maybe Lincoln Chaffee? Or the Virginia guy who's name I forgot who basically bragged about killing a guy in Vietnam? Jim Webb, right? Too uninterested to google but not too comment.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 3:39 AM
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There is nothing more hateful than the fucking Iowa primary run-ups. Also the fucking putrid caucuses themselves. That and New Hampshire, exactly how nation deeply committed to white supremacy would start it presidential selection process.

But even beyond that the specter of candidates and media sub-cunts going hands-on with the "salt of the earth." Fucking everloving fuck. Political cosplay.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 3:53 AM
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Some of us remember what salt of the earth ACTUALLY means.


Posted by: Opinionated Roman Slaves | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 4:07 AM
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Christian?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 4:44 AM
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Shitty.


Posted by: Opinionated Roman Slaves | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 4:54 AM
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Anyway, I think maybe my cousin's kid is active in student government or something like that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 5:41 AM
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Tell him to do National Guard, then McKinsey, then wire fraud.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 5:45 AM
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I don't think he goes to a school that makes McKinsey possible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 5:50 AM
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Accenture. I think they let you in if you can spell it.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04- 8-19 6:02 AM
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مطلب بی نهایت خفنی است و امروزتون پر باشه از اتفاقای خوب،اگر دوست دارید سایت ما رو به آدرس جوشکاری نرده شاخ گوزن کاوه بررسی کنید.


Posted by: گردآفريد | Link to this comment | 09- 5-20 1:21 PM
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the price of deer antler wall guard


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