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Awww.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 7:48 AM
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That's great!


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:02 AM
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I can only express appreciation for things on Twitter through backhanded compliments, so I'll say that this is a pretty good comedy/romance story, and very probably the best Twitter chain I've ever seen.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:24 AM
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But is it worth clicking through to twitter? This monster guesses no.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:26 AM
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4: It really is short and odd and even sweet.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:52 AM
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Do people really take flowers to graves that often?

I left him flowers every couple of weeks. Every couple of weeks FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:03 AM
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6: The only thing I remembered like that was Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe.

He placed a 20-year order of a half-dozen roses to be placed on Monroe's grave three times a week

But that was just an order. He didn't go to her grave that often, I'm thinking.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:07 AM
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Like a stray pig. Munch munch.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:07 AM
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8: What????


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:12 AM
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6: I can't imagine doing it, but I also can't imagine living within a convenient drive of the grave of a loved one. My paternal grandparents were probably buried 2-3 hours away from where I grew up, and that's 8 hours away from me right now. Everyone else who comes to mind is more distant, either physically or emotionally.

It probably also matters that they died in such a sad/scary way, rather than of old age.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:13 AM
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6. Someone (or successive someones) unknown left flowers on Edgar Allan Poe's grave for over 50 years. ISTR that whoever was doing it stopped a few years ago, and the supposition was that the giver had died and no successor named. (Isn't there a term for that where titles of nobility are concerned? "Suspension," for example.)


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:17 AM
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If I lived near my father's grave I might visit it regularly, but I wouldn't bring flowers. I never gave him flowers when he was alive!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:19 AM
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12: Maybe I would bring flowers to his grave to expiate my guilt for not giving him flowers while he was alive.

But, no, that's not what I feel guilty about.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:21 AM
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According to Debrett's, there is "dormant" for no known heir and "in abeyance" when there are multiple equally-qualified claimants. At least on Debrett's site, "in abeyance" happens if there is no male heir but more than one female heir, unless the peerage has a "limitation" to "heirs whatsoever," in which case the older of the female heirs gets it.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:26 AM
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Short. Slightly sweet. Munch.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:29 AM
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I'm sorry but I was literally told today apropos nothing in particular that I'm Godzilla, so I'm just gonna stomp. Is this the thing, for HK? Quite possibly. Conveniently, you're in a trade war already.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:32 AM
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I'm at my yearly doctor's appt where they make me wait for hours to be seen! This yeat, they called me last week and changed my appointment time to a quite tight window, for me. They assured me that he'd be running on time this time, because I'm his first appointment after the morning commitment that displaced me.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:42 AM
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One radioactive scream and they won't be pulling shit like that anymore.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:46 AM
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I'm cautiously optimistic - I'm through the first room which usually takes an hour, and into the room where they have me sit naked, traditionally for an hour, before being seen.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:50 AM
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Flex your dorsal spines.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:55 AM
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Done in a timely manner! I didn't see Slow Doc. They pawned me off on a nurse practitioner. Works for me!


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 10:24 AM
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I know, riveting.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 10:26 AM
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The Jewish tradition of leaving pebbles on graves is far superior to flowers. Pebbles don't rot and they don't require toxic chemicals and third world labor standards to acquire. Also free. Very little preparation is required. Other visitors won't know if you were there the day before or years ago.

I was traveling a lot the first few years after my fatheer died. I had never been much of a gift-chooser, but now I knew exactly what he would expect. He received pebbles from the Cliffs of Moher, the Appalachian Trail, several Caribbean beaches . . .


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 10:35 AM
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I had never been much of a gift-chooser, but now I knew exactly what he would expect. He received pebbles from the Cliffs of Moher, the Appalachian Trail, several Caribbean beaches . . .

That is nice.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 10:43 AM
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16: "The thing" = ?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 11:37 AM
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Suddenly I feel bad. Not only do I not know where my grandparents were buried, I can't find obituaries or anything similar about them online. Three of them died in the 90s and one of them died in the 80s, so the Internet existed but wasn't anywhere near ubiquitous. I've found plausible birth and death dates for three of them here, but that's it. It's not like it matters, I've never been inclined to leave flowers or rocks on their graves, but for some reason I thought it would be easier than this.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:08 PM
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I left I really big, carved rock on my dad's grave.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:21 PM
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Stupid Canada internet.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:21 PM
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Cyrus, did you search on findagrave.com?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:32 PM
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29: Thanks for the tip. Don't have time to search for all of them there right now, but at least one of them is definitely not listed there. I mean, unless he was buried with someone who died about 10 years before his wife did.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:39 PM
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23: That is very nice. And I agree, it's a better tradition. I do a lot of my walking in a well-designed giant cemetery nearby and rocks (the size of skipping rocks, not pebbles) make a grave feel more personal in a way that flowers don't. I'm also partial to the East Asian tradition of leaving alcohol (among other things), although that has the same issues with production.

I visited my grandparents' grave for the first time this year, a decade after they died. They're buried in a national cemetery on a military base. Visiting it requires going through security twice and filling out a form. Strange and annoying, since visiting the aviation history museum also on the base doesn't require any extra security.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 1:48 PM
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26: Cyrus, if you know where they lived and approximate dates of death, you might be able to search local newspaper archives at nearby libraries for the obituraries. Lots of local papers never had an online presence, or didn't digitize their obituaries if they did, so it's not too surprising that you can't find that online. Not sure how easy it would be to do that search remotely, but you could always call one of the local libraries and ask. Also, you might be able to get copies of the death certificates from the appropriate local government agency, though those won't have information about the burial site.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 2:37 PM
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"they don't require toxic chemicals and third world labor standards to acquire. Also free."
Maybe the substandard pebbles you use.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 3:00 PM
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Did you all read parts TWO and THREE? Also amazing.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 3:33 PM
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35: I hadn't -- they're also great!
TWO - https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/1137659643285688320
THREE - https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/1137660717740503040


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 3:47 PM
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I choose to believe that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 5:21 PM
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Even a week in Canada hasn't gotten me used to people that nice.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 5:41 PM
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|| https://news.yahoo.com/jessica-biel-comes-anti-vaxx-223019511.html |>


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 6:15 PM
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The thing, where the PRC does, or doesn't, send in the PAP and end the charade, and the free world does, or doesn't, do anything.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 7:13 PM
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38. I have the perfect 7nfogged post title for that. I sent it to heebie-geebie. I haven't any body for it, so she'll have to add hers


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 7:57 PM
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Sheesh. Unfogged.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 7:57 PM
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I always assume no one gets buried nowadays, but apparently that's inaccurate for now. I visited the graves of some distant relatives in San Jose last fall and it was unexpectedly moving. I believe all my grandparents have been cremated except, ironically, my dad's deadbeat father whose body lies eternally in Brownsville until the flood cometh.

Hong Kong... do any of you know of a good economic overview of the last 22 years in HK? I've read a bunch of different pieces of the story but I think the big picture is still fuzzy to me.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 7:59 PM
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38: I used to like her. But nonsensical, anti-vaxx woo (so stupid; so irresponsible...) is kind of a dealbreaker for me.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:01 PM
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Even a week in Canada hasn't gotten me used to people that nice.

We're not that nice. We're just programmed (okay, socialized) to be polite and non-confrontational. Which probably makes us "nicer" when it comes to everyday interactions amongst strangers.

Though there may be something more. As a backward, backwoods country, Canada is at least ten years behind the US in the progress of nihilism, I guess. The social fabric is quickly fraying at the edges, but hasn't yet completely unravelled...


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:24 PM
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Not my beat, so I did not know Trump was driving measurably larger numbers of people into law school:

These enrollment increases further solidify the theory that the law school "Trump bump" isn't an alternative fact, it's real -- even if it seems to be humble (unlike the president himself). Policy changes made by the Trump administration have prompted college graduates to consider legal careers, and with at least two more years of this presidency to go, we may well see additional enrollment increases in the future.
Students who want positive changes to be made in America are heading to law school. Debt loads aside [ha ha hahahahahaha], there's no real way to see this as a bad thing. Nice work, everyone! All it took [was] a perversion of the rule of law to inspire people to go to law school. Yay...
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Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:26 PM
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The social fabric is quickly fraying at the edges

Is there a map showing where the edges are?


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:28 PM
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How many Murdoch media are there in Canada?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 8:35 PM
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Do Murdochs mar Manitoba? Are Antipodeans active in Alberta? News Corp nightly in Newfoundland?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:21 PM
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"How many Murdochs do the Canadians have?" --Stalin, probably.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:23 PM
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Is there a map showing where the edges are?

No, not really. I was just speaking loosely, and metaphorically. But any map of the province of Ontario, where the urban centre holds fast to the traditional social contract, whilst the suburbs go all rogue, all Rob/Doug For. We may be behind in the progress of nihililsm, but we are quickly catching up!...


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:34 PM
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For s/b Ford, of course,


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-12-19 9:35 PM
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I'm in the unexpectedly stressful process of making a program for my moms memorial service in 8 days. we're having a party for a hundred or so afterwards, which will be nice. we're burying her ashes in the morning, and the gravestone is good, just her name and dates with "adored" and a daffodil. I am jealous of my uncle living so near the grave; if I could walk to it I would go all the time. one classic mom request is that we sprinkle some ashes into georgica pond just off our grandfather's dock, the only hitch being that we don't own the house anymore. my sister and I swore up and down we'd do a frogman commando mission if needed, so I guess we're on the hook. maybe we'll be lucky and they won't come out to the country till friday, then we can easily trespass on thursday. I imagine us in black flats and funeral dresses picking across the mud (the waters down) but I suppose we'll change. my girls and my sister and I are, also on request, wearing hats/fascinators with veils, because, fuck it.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 1:36 AM
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My condolences, al.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 5:04 AM
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Very sorry to hear it. Al. Condolences.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 5:57 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear it, alameida. May your more joyful memories of her stay at the forefront of your mind, and may you find peaceful moments where you can amidst the grief.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 6:09 AM
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52: Very sorry, al. Hope she was comfortable at the end.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 6:12 AM
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I'm so sorry. Please tell us how the frogman tresspassing mission goes.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 6:20 AM
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My condolences, al.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 7:14 AM
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Condolences, Al


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 8:32 AM
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Condolences. Bet the owners of the house won't mind.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 8:43 AM
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Sorry, al.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-13-19 12:15 PM
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