Re: Good for Weiner

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The marking of the graduate students is a nice touch.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 3:30 AM
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What is all this silliness about? Shouldn't philosophers have the wisdom to get along?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 7:36 AM
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The real racists transphobes are people who call other people racist transphobic.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 8:53 AM
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"Leiter is correct" - Weiner


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 8:57 AM
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4: That was a long time ago.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:03 AM
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5. It's gone stale.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:05 AM
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5. It's gone stale.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:05 AM
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Thanks to prawns fishing activities and better infrastructures.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:23 AM
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8: Do you have a random sentence generator?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:27 AM
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The response is quite simple.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 9:32 AM
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2: enjoy!

I got sucked into reading all about this at some point. I don't see how this one gets resolved in practice... I'm not sure exactly how much the toxic culture of academic philosophy contributes to the viciousness of this particular conflict, and as an Internet Person I don't have a good sense of how influential Leiter really is. It does seem like it should be some kind of academic norm that you not pursue dozens of very public vendettas across more than a decade of your career... against anyone, really.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 10:56 AM
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I also had the grumpy thought that academic freedom is pretty meaningless when people are so thoroughly imprisoned by their own stupidity. Please credit this highly original notion to this comment


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 11:02 AM
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It does seem like it should be some kind of academic norm that you not pursue dozens of very public vendettas across more than a decade of your career... against anyone, really.

The vendettas I was familiar with were usually private. That way graduate students had to figure them out without help.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 11:10 AM
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Good for Weiner, indeed. Thanks to this I did some enjoyable reading in the archives. I had it in my head that Weiner had invented Fuck to oboe. Nope. It was SomeCallMeTim. This was a good thread.

http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_3323.html


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 2:11 PM
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As a trans ex-philosopher the rise of terfs and their enablers in professional philosophy makes me super glad I left


Posted by: Ponder Stibbons | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 3:22 PM
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IIRC, Leiter's defenders once showed up at this blog and didn't not acquit themselves well.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 8:35 PM
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"Did not" -- that wasn't supposed to be a double negation.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-26-19 8:36 PM
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THE MUDFISH FISHERY MANAGEMENT

Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 12:07 AM
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This, like all the bullying stuff last year, makes it look really like there are some areas of academia where people just do not have enough proper work to be getting on with. The philosophy faculty should start helping in the canteen* or something if they have enough time on their hands for feuds.

*The Philosopher in the Kitchen, Jean-Anthelme de Brillat-Savarin, good introductory text


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 1:11 AM
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the lack of proper regulatory controls in the harvesting of sea urchins had resulted in the near depletion of the resource

Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 4:15 AM
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If you want to be in tune with the zeitgeist, that should be: "thanks to the absence of restrictive regulations, the sea urchin harvest was a great success, and did not deplete the resource"


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 6:12 AM
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Sigh.


Posted by: Opinionated Leibnitz | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 6:14 AM
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I used to have lots of free time. I spent much of it going to the bar three or four nights a week. Now have gastritis that won't go away. It was probably worth it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 7:20 AM
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Making your way in the world today takes everything you've got.
Taking a break from all your worries, sure would help a lot.

Wouldn't you like to get away?

Sometimes you want to go

Where everybody knows your name,
and they're always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
our troubles are all the same
You wanna be where everybody knows
Your name.


Posted by: Opinionated Mobybar | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 7:41 AM
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Since I can hardly drink at all, I now mostly drink when I really need it to stay calm. Family vacations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 8:03 AM
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Roll out of bed, the car battery's dead;
The summer's looking bright;
And your job ran off to Asia,
And didn't even write;
And your colon wants to be a bitch;

Be glad there's one place in the world
Where everybody knows your name,
And they're always glad you came;
You want to go where people know,
People are all the same;
You want to go where everybody knows your name.


Posted by: Opinionated Mobybar | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 8:17 AM
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The thread in 14 suggests that Ogged might enjoy r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG/, which despite the fact that the G's should be W's is compatible with feminism since I learned about it from Nicole Cliffe's twitter.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 9:27 AM
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That's pretty great.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 6:30 PM
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23: my gastritis/hiatal hernia has been great at keeping down my alcohol consumption, I say from the bar. Less good for exercising and generally feeling with it.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07-27-19 6:37 PM
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Popping in to say that you guys are all amazingly generous and supportive. I'm sending individual thank-yous as I can, but there is a backlog. Especially thank you to the lurkers- getting presents from people who just know me from afar has made me tear up every time it happens.

I don't really have an update. I'm bald, but only half from hair falling out. The other half is shaved. I still have eyebrows and eyelashes. I'm tired and feel shitty a lot of the time, but that was already the case, so whatever.

To summarize the situation as it stands, I'm doing chemo through November, surgery in December, Radiation January-February-March. In mid-March I'll be reassessed and given a new staging and prognosis.

The chemo is working though. Tumor was noticeably smaller and softer a week after starting, and now is barely findable.

This is a great place full of great people. Many, many thanks again for all of your generosity.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 12:04 PM
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This is excellent news.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 1:23 PM
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Hooray for chemo!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 2:39 PM
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The other half is shaved.

That's doing it with a bit of style, E. Messily.

This was a good update (if not really an update) to read.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 2:51 PM
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I am so glad.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 5:49 PM
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Very happy to hear this news


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 7:14 PM
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Yay for good news! Chemo is the worst best thing.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07-28-19 7:54 PM
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I now have SEVERAL very fancy wigs for which I will arrrage a photo shoot at some time in the relatively near future. Two of them thanks to the Mineshaft. (very thank you, mineshaft, again)


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-29-19 1:46 PM
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Anime wigs are a nice thing to see on a wishlist!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-29-19 2:32 PM
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Glad the tumor is retreating. Yay!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 07-29-19 4:23 PM
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This is very good to hear. Hooray.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-29-19 4:29 PM
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