Re: Friday WTFuckery

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There's nothing in this that any of you will find the least bit new. The point, I think, is to put this message in lots of places where people who support the President, but may think there is some point to the cruelty, might see it.

*The author is my cousin, and is very knowledgeable about immigration over the southern border.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 10:15 AM
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Y'all have probably seen this already, but here's a photo from Melania Trump's Twitter feed with the first lady holding a baby whose parents were killed by the El Paso gunman.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 11:45 AM
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If I understand what happened right, none of the adult survivors were willing to pose with the president, so he got a picture with a baby whose parents were dead and unable to refuse.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 11:49 AM
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The baby certainly doesn't look like a willing participant.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 11:54 AM
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The baby's uncle was enthusiastic about meeting with Trump. He said the father was a Trump fan.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 11:58 AM
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At the risk of furthering rumor, there's a twitter-sourced claim that the poor kid's uncle (and now guardian) is a trumpero, also possibly the late father.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 11:59 AM
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Oh whats up Ned.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 12:00 PM
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It does make sense that the current guardian must have given permission, I suppose. It's still kind of unpleasant.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 12:26 PM
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A couple of links from Charlie's:

The Charlotte court that would hear Ana's case was one of five jurisdictions labeled "asylum free zones" by a group of immigrant advocates in written testimony last December before the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. The courts in Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas and Atlanta also received the designation. The advocates testified that, while asylum is granted in nearly half of cases nationwide, Charlotte judges granted asylum in just 13 percent of cases in 2015. The Charlotte court was singled out for displaying a particular "bias against Central American gang and gender-related asylum claims."
I'd have thought that much arbitrariness should be illegal in some way. Also, how is this constitutional?
U.S. immigration courts are administrative courts within the Department of Justice's Executive Office for Immigration Review. Unlike federal court judges, whose authority stems from the U.S. Constitution's establishment of an independent judicial branch, immigration judges fall under the executive branch and thus are hired, and can be fired, by the attorney general.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 12:26 PM
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In broad outline, deportation isn't a criminal matter, so the safeguards applicable to criminal prosecution don't apply. "Constitutional" protections can be pretty technical and narrow.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 12:30 PM
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I'd have thought that much arbitrariness should be illegal in some way.

Even under previous administrations, immigration courts handling asylum cases were often quite accurately described as "death-penalty decisions in a traffic court setting." The sheer administrative mess of the court system has to be seen to be believed, including such absurdities as holding people responsible for appearing when court-issued notices (inaccurately) tell them to appear at 1 a.m., for example.

The TRAC clearinghouse at Syracuse University has done excellent research for a long time using immigration court data obtained by FOIA. The sheer roll-of-the-dice arbitrariness of the system is breathtaking, with huge differences not only from city to city but between judges in the same city with regard to likelihood of granting asylum claims.

The entire system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Unfortunately, it sort of is -- but by monomaniacal immigration restrictionists rather than competent civil servants.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 08- 9-19 7:22 PM
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The usual message is inappropriate: Jeffrey Epstein is dead. He should not be dead.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 6:38 AM
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That motherfucker.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 6:49 AM
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Donald Trump's Vince Foster.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 6:51 AM
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I think the cruelty would actually work if it was directed at the CEO and senior managers of these companies.


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 6:58 AM
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Fuck. Now all those other rich child molesting rapists will skate. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 7:14 AM
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How the fuck wasn't he on 24/7 suicide watch after the previous attempt. This is not at all suspicious.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 7:17 AM
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14: According to former event planner now HUD official Lynne Patton, this is Vince Foster II.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 7:54 AM
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Somebody has already asked the world on another site, "Does anybody really believe he killed himself?"


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 8:11 AM
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Jeffrey Epstein killed himself
With tardigrades on the Moon
His face and arms began to swell
And tardigrades on the Moon
Hangin' there inside his cell
But tardigrades on the Moon
He can't snitch on no one else
Now tardigrades on the Moon
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Clinton, Dershowitz and Trump
Ain't tardigrades on the Moon
Economy's about to slump
Cause tardigrades on the Moon
Brexit don't make any sense
Like tardigrades on the Moon
Jesus, save us from Mike Pence
And tardigrades on the Moon
.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 9:26 AM
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Bravo!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 9:33 AM
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21 was me


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 9:34 AM
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That's brilliant.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 10:02 AM
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Loud applause!


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 10:26 AM
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Not that it's ever a good week for the AG to be espousing the theories of "justice" embodied in Death Wish and Dirty Harry but this was a particularly bad one.

"Death Wish, yeah," Barr said. "That gives people a sense of satisfaction when they see it."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 11:38 AM
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20 is so wonderful.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 2:05 PM
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Over time, the first line I remember from the Kang and Kodos run for president episode has shifted from "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos" to "I am looking forward to an orderly election tomorrow, which will eliminate the need for a violent bloodbath." Also, it's now very believable that if the candidates were revealed to be aliens from space the day before the vote, all the powers that be would throw up their hands and shrug, saying: "We have to follow procedure and it's too late to reprint the ballots."


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-19 8:30 PM
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20: are you aware that these are Zionist tardigrades?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 12:28 AM
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17: this is very much the sort of thing that happens in Russia when someone is arrested for being inconvenient to the president.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 12:30 AM
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|| Harold Pollack arguing for the Analogy Ban on Twitter

Argument by analogy on Twitter across divisive social issues almost never works. It almost always become a way to wildly jump topic to topic w/o engaging granular realities of either side of the analogy. It's like we're trying to debate ethics of euthanasia by--oh just never mind.

https://twitter.com/haroldpollack/status/1160546104255160321

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Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 7:30 AM
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|| I posted the most popular thing I have ever posted on the internet a couple of days ago -- it's gotten 144 likes so far! Looking through the list of people that "liked" it I don't think a single one of them knows me in real life or online. Since I love you all so much, I've decided to share it with you.

On the plus side, that kind of proved your point.

Like nearly all the lines that people choose as their favorites from movies, it suffers out of context.

https://twitter.com/peepinthefog/status/1159831974019776512 ||


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 7:39 AM
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Love you too, peep! (But not enough to look at twitter.)


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 7:52 AM
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I will find my Twitter login and like that. Unless it takes effort.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 7:55 AM
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I retweeted it, which is better, right?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 12:21 PM
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34:. Right! Now it's bound to go viral.

Thanks, Moby!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 12:50 PM
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I read a twit thread earlier today about how the employer of those MS people (a) had been providing employees with fake ssns etc and (b) is a big Trump supporter. But now I can't find it.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 4:55 PM
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It was on Stormcrow's, I think.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 5:00 PM
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Here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 5:02 PM
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peep made me look at Twitter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 5:04 PM
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28: no, no, you're thinking of a bugbear, these are water bears.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-11-19 5:04 PM
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