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Re: Failure to Report

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Is "report" here "report to the police" or "report to the university authorities"?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 7:35 AM
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Does this apply to the victim?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 7:53 AM
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Sec. 51.252. REPORTING REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN INCIDENTS.
(a)An employee of a postsecondary educational institution who, in
the course and scope of employment, witnesses or receives
information regarding the occurrence of an incident that the
employee reasonably believes constitutes sexual harassment, sexual
assault, dating violence, or stalking and is alleged to have been
committed by or against a person who was a student enrolled at or an
employee of the institution at the time of the incident shall
promptly report the incident to the institution 's Title IX
coordinator or deputy Title IX coordinator.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 7:59 AM
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3: thanks.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 8:23 AM
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2: apparently not.

(d) Notwithstanding Subsection (a), a person is not required to make a report under this section concerning: (1) an incident in which the person was a victim of sexual harassment, sexual assault, dating violence, or stalking; or (2) an incident of which the person received information due to a disclosure made at a sexual harassment, sexual assault, dating violence, or stalking public awareness event sponsored by a post secondary educational institution or by a student organization affiliated with the institution.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 8:25 AM
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Isn't this already covered by the Clery Act? Now everything has to be reported to the police and also to the Title IX coordinator?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:13 AM
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This is in part the legacy of Ken Starr. And yet he appears widely on network TV to spin and lie about special counsels and presidential wrongdoing with nary a whimper about his dreadful track record at Baylor (much less in his more relevant roles). Truly one of the towering subcunts of our times; how shocking that Rapey McRapeface was one of his henchmen during Whitewater.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:15 AM
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Is there some good reason this Title IX stuff isn't just handled by the police? The offenses involved are actual crimes or misdemeanors, right?
Or, initially reported to the police, who despatch members of whatever other public agency can best deal with the problem.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:17 AM
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Penn State still wants to have the punishment for not reporting being a statue of yourself in front of the football stadium.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:23 AM
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9: Fuck the pope Title IX coordinator, how many divisions does he have big is his offensive line?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:30 AM
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8: A good reason? No. Maybe I'd report it to the police and the Title IX coordinator at the same time, but I wouldn't leave the police out.

The de jure reason for a requirement to report to the Title IX coordinator is probably because they're specialized in dealing with these issues at the college. The real reason is, some colleges are insular enough that they basically run their own police forces. But I think there's adequate evidence by now that they shouldn't. As bad as police often are on these issues, colleges are often worse.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:41 AM
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Like, at bare minimum, why isn't the Title IX coordinator a police liaison officer?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:44 AM
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Kind of wild how the right wing culture war media machine spent the last several years crying about how Title IX was totally draconian in its lack of due process and the vagueness of its statutes and then the biggest red state goes and passes something that actually could end up that way in practice.


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:45 AM
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I always thought Title IX was about making sure there were women's sports but maybe I have the wrong title or maybe it's a title that really covers some ground.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:54 AM
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It's equal access to educational opportunities -- the sports thing is just because school sports are an educational opportunity.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 10:12 AM
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I lived with football players. I learned that if you drop a keg on your foot, it will break a bone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 10:49 AM
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Is there some good reason this Title IX stuff isn't just handled by the police? The offenses involved are actual crimes or misdemeanors, right?
Or, initially reported to the police, who despatch members of whatever other public agency can best deal with the problem.

The issue is that "proving beyond a reasonable doubt" and "creating a hostile environment on the basis of gender" are two wildly different standards for the same offense.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 11:21 AM
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Also the Heebie U trainings on this topic are using the tagline, "No sex discrimination. No sexual harassment. Period." which almost reads like, "But you can keep your menstruation as much as you want!" Not quite, but close enough to amuse me.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 11:30 AM
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Poorly written tag lines are a first world problem.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 3:25 PM
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 3:53 PM
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Find out this and more on next week's episode of Soap.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 4:03 PM
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20.1 nevermind


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 4:22 PM
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20: yeah, I felt bad making fun of a basically good person.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 4:23 PM
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First world problem.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 4:26 PM
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23: I do it all the time. It's really easy to get used to.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 5:04 PM
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I keep being curious, but not enough to actually get around to figuring it out, what legal restrictions Title IX places on the way universities handle harassment claims. Our grad student union has been agitating about how they don't think the Title IX process serves student interests, and they want it to be replaced by some kind of third party arbitration. I was surprised that this could be legal.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 8:16 PM
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There's a well-established Unfogged norm that we don't make fun of basically good people in the first 40 comments.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 9:23 PM
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People make fun of David Crosby, but I'll tell you what, he's got an amazing band he's touring with right now. Jeff Pevar and Mai Leisz are worth the price of admission.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-29-19 11:23 PM
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Phil Collins will never buy Post Malone a liver, that's for sure.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 4:53 AM
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