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Re: JustSaysInMice

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Mice get all the best medicine.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 7:46 AM
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I did think this was funny:

Lab mice endure a lot for science, but there's often one (temporary) compensation: near-miraculous recovery from diseases that kill people.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 7:52 AM
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In my years in science, neurological disorders definitely seemed like the most susceptible to "This research is impossible unless there is a good mouse model. Therefore there must be a good mouse model. And it's, uhhhh, this thing." Not sure the name of that logical fallacy but it seems similar to "looking for your keys under the lamppost".

In other fields the research that wastes time and money is mostly when you have a good mouse model, and you figure out a way to cure the disease by treating the mice before you give them the disease, and then you spend years gradually improving that, while pretending it's possible to make the leap from this into curing the disease by treating them AFTER they have the disease (which is typically how we do medicine in human beings, unless you're a billionaire).


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 8:12 AM
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In the most detailed taxonomy of the human brain to date, a team of researchers as large as a symphony orchestra

How much were these researchers eating?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 8:45 AM
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Of the brains?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 8:49 AM
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Just say sin, mice.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 08-30-19 9:00 AM
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How did they fit a whole person with autism is a mouse?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 5:41 AM
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Stupid phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 5:52 AM
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The court said it understands the BBMP wants to create a tourist spot, but it has no authority to reduce the tank and crate an island, as it violates guidelines.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 6:11 AM
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The American medical system has some serious problems, but can other nations say they have tv commercials that explain "The perineum is the area between the genitals and the anus" so the side effects disclaimer of a prescription medication can be explained?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 8:16 AM
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Anyway, the hidden downside of Type 2 diabetes is that you might be prescribed a medicine that has a side effect adjacent to your balls.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 8:38 AM
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"The perineum is the area between the genitals and the anus"

No it taint.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 6:51 PM
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I have to have a document notarized, for a will, and on it my name says "Heebie Geebiewhammies, formerly known as Heebie Geebie". Now, "Geebiewhammies" is the last name of the Geeblets, so I do get associated with that, but legally my last name is Geebies.

Is this like a bank, where they forgive eccentricities in how people spell my name all the time? Or is this a strict situation where I need to ask my poor aunt to have new documents drawn up?

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 7:01 PM
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I don't know. I was just thinking that Viagra commercials should have to have Mr. Wizard explain, using plastic tubing and a pump, what ED is.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 7:02 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, but I am level 40 in Pokemon Go and level 30 in Wizards Unite, so I must know stuff. I'm going to guess that as long as you aren't doing it to try to deceive anybody, you can sign "Heebie Geebiewhammies", "Heebie Geebie", "Heebie Whammies".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 7:13 PM
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Maybe the notary public would know.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 7:29 PM
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I was worried they'd have to give me the ultra-safe answer and then I'd lose my wiggle room.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 08-31-19 9:45 PM
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Some say the world will end in fire.
Some say in mice.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 2:49 AM
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From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
And if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of trials
To say for replication mice
Are unlike worlds
And won't suffice.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 3:23 AM
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The mouse model of Unfogged is a lot of preening and squeaking past each other, so really holds up rather well.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 5:35 AM
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I've wondered about this with my first name. Some paralegal corrected my name to the name most people shorten to my real name.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 5:54 AM
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And they submitted it to probate court so they didn't want to change it because they thought it would confuse the judge.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 5:55 AM
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Dealing with wills and stuff always makes me feel like a character in a murder mystery. I like to make sure that everybody who would benefit from my death benefits more from me being alive. That works pretty well for children (until you retire) and acceptably well for spouses, but not hardly at all for siblings.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 6:58 AM
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You can't leave them anything in your will, then.

I was sort of surprised to be in my Uncle's will, and I still don't know if it's a favorite possession or a few grand, or what. But I feel a bit guilty about it, if it's the latter, and would probably redirect it to his grandkids' college fund.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 7:06 AM
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24.1: Other people left stuff in their will to be divided among us.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 7:12 AM
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Well, that was complicated of them.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 7:42 AM
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14. It all seems to depend on the decisions of individual lawyers and courts and corporations, AFAICT. Unfortunately, the recent upsurge of totalitarianism that makes it impossible to travel or get a driver's license without all the documents (birth certificate, passport, etc.) agreeing on your "full name" has made some things less forgiving on this score, although there are still pockets where you can have any name you like as long it seems enough like your "real name."

These pockets are shrinking, though. I had to change all sorts of things and go by my "real name" (as defined by bureaucrats) in more places because my prescription provider suddenly wouldn't fill my prescriptions unless my name on them was the same as my "real name" where I work. Similarly, your travel documents have to have your "real name" as defined by the airline, and so on ad infinitum.

I believe that HB can call herself anything she wants to, but eventually that "anything" has to be almost universally used on documents (which includes virtual documents). The panopticon is watching, and its sleepless, lidless red eye is searching for discrepancies.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 8:14 AM
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The name "Heebie Geebiewhammies" doesn't appear on any documents anywhere, besides kids' teachers occasionally using it erroneously. The only real error in the document that I need notarized is that it says "formerly known as Heebie Geebie" as opposed to aka.

Can I edit a document by hand - ie cross out "formerly" and initial that - and then have that version be notarized?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 10:13 AM
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Sure. Tell them I said it's fine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 10:27 AM
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Great!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 10:50 AM
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your travel documents have to have your "real name" as defined by the airline

This is getting irksome for me because I travel with my son and he will not answer to his real name unless I prompt him. Gets you the side eye from TSA.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 11:13 AM
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Well then you should have instilled in him more pride in his heritage.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 12:02 PM
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I guess "J.B. Cooper Hick" isn't a very good name for an air traveler.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 12:16 PM
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I'm in the middle of organising an Irish passport and the form only has room for two of my Christian names. Which I don't much care about but it will leave me with two passports in two separate names. A poke in one eye for the panopticon.


Posted by: The scarlet pimpernel | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 1:04 PM
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19 is very good


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 1:04 PM
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Yes it is.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 1:28 PM
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I thought all Catholic people had to have at least three Christian names.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 1:30 PM
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So four names total? That's just Tolkien.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 2:01 PM
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I started clicking through to other stuff written by the guy who started the justsaysinmice account, mostly on Medium, and since his stuff is 1) all about scientific integrity* and 2) written with flair I probably spent 90 minutes this morning digging deeper and revisiting all that replication crisis stuff from 2016 (Wansink - remember him? I forgot that that ended with him 'resigning'). Here's just a sample of some of the titles of his (not science skeptic, I think) posts to give you a flavor:
September, 2016. Of Course Exercise is Effective For Weight Loss, You Low-Expectation-Having Science-Allergic Triumphalist Donkeys
July, 2016. A Brief Guide to Getting Pedantic About Language
April, 2016. A Month Among the Neon Donkeys

etc.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 2:14 PM
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Most Irish people I know have two baptismal names and a "confirmation name", I think it is. But they never ever use it and in most cases I have no idea what it is. I was raised Anglican and I have four names in total, but that's because my mother was an only child and they thought it would be fun to keep her birth name going for another generation.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 2:54 PM
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Yes. Confirmation names aren't used outside of confirmation that I've ever seen. Also, it's pretty common now for only one of the baptismal names to be of a saint. As my uncle asked when informed of his granddaughter's name, "Is there a St. Madison?"


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 3:08 PM
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I only know two people's confirmation names, my own and the guy in my class who picked before I did and got the name I wanted more.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 3:11 PM
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There's a much older story, which is almost certainly apocryphal, of a couple presenting their daughter Hazel for baptism, and the priest saying, "There's a saint for every day in the year and you have to call her after a bloody nut!"


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 3:13 PM
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My uncle was one of the last hold out who kept saying "Holy Ghost."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 3:15 PM
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The only confirmation names I know are my mom's and James Joyce's. My mom got slapped in the face when receiving hers, but I don't think they do that any more.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 4:05 PM
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The only confirmation names I know are my mom's and James Joyce's. My mom got slapped in the face when receiving hers, but I don't think they do that any more.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 4:05 PM
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She pick something dirty?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 4:35 PM
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Molly Bloom.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 6:43 PM
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Her first name actually is Molly, and I did have to think through whether this had any connection to my academic "career" in Joyce studies, but I don't think there's an interesting answer.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 8:19 PM
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I almost read at least a quarter of one story of Dubliners, so it's like we're twins.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 8:25 PM
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35 it is


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 8:50 PM
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NMM to Robert M. Pirsig


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09- 1-19 10:41 PM
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I know an 80-year-old Catholic woman who has always been known to family, friends, in fact everyone but officials, as "Lindy" but whom the priest refused to baptise under that unsamctified name, so she is officially "Virginia Antoinette" - I suppose better than the obvious "Marie Antoinette", which would be a really unfortunate name for the shabby genteel.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 12:10 AM
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52: Since 2017. Not sure why he came up again.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 12:57 AM
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Most Irish people I know have two baptismal names and a "confirmation name", I think it is.

A few wealthy English people also have a "speculation name", also known as a Lloyds' name.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 1:47 AM
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Idly checking whether there is in fact a St. Hazel, I discover that there isn't, but there is a St. Hatebrand.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 1:50 AM
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"Lloyd's" not "Lloyds'" obviously.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 2:31 AM
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Currently on a day cruise in the Aegean, visited Hydra where I found Leonard Cohen's house.

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Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 2:54 AM
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Re: panopticon, I legally changed my name in 2015, and all government documents that I know of agree on the new name, except my voter ID. Maybe I should be more worried about that.

I changed my name because it was too long and complicated. Because I hate Atossa, I gave her an even longer name. I can only assume she'll change it the day she turns 18.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 3:48 AM
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56. Band name. Not the sort of band I enjoy, but still.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 4:33 AM
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I was thinking "rival school to St. Trinian's".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 6:29 AM
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59: "Maybe I should be more worried about that."

Only if you can be tagged as likely to vote for the opposition.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 7:26 AM
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No wonder Leonard Cohen was always so morose. Working against S.H.I.E.L.D. is hard.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 7:41 AM
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lourdes: At the recent Worldcon in Dublin, there was a concert Friday night where (among other works) they presented three scenes from an upcoming opera, "Dotter of Her Father's Eyes," libretto by Mary Talbot, based on the graphic novel by Mary Talbot and Bryan Talbot. The story parallels the relationship between Joyce and his daughter with that between Talbot and her father, who is a Joyce scholar. I don't know if you are familiar with the graphic novel, but perhaps it's something you might find interesting given the Joyce connection.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 9:21 AM
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PS: And now I see that the opera composer is Gary Lloyd, to add a completely unrelated coincidental connection to another part of this discussion (Lloyd's names). Must be a sign.


Posted by: Dave Wallace | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 9:34 AM
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Okay, I have some holiday entertainment for the U.S. readership. Anyone can play. In the Bay Area there are some popular yard signs that express a sort of 2017 liberal creed: they are for sale here (and apparently the proceeds benefit "Wisconsin women and girls," which includes many beloved relatives of mine, although it does not seem to include a service to ameliorate my sister's absolutely bonkers high-deductible insurance plan but ANYWAY). There are of course conservative versions too. This morning I tried drafting a personalized sign:

In this house we believe...

yard signs should be individually written
skepticism is an ideology
houses are for people, not wealth
this lawn is not worth watering
anxious white people waste police resources
that cute orange cat eats a lot of birds
(most) books are better than YouTube
we have a moral obligation to destroy the Chevron refinery, but we won't because we're cowards and enjoy our comfortable life

What would yours say?
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Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 9:46 AM
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Everybody in Squirrel Hill puts up "No place for hate" signs. I don't have one because as a description it is wrong and as an exhortation it is lacking a verb.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 10:21 AM
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If you blow up the Chevron refinery you can still buy gas from another one. You don't need to wear a hair shirt or anything.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 10:43 AM
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In this house we believe...

You'll feel better when you've had something to eat and a good night's sleep.
Cats who don't cuddle only count as houseplants, although houseplants in and of themselves are good things.
The cruelty of groups of people is overwhelming past the point of contemplation.
We have a moral obligation to block walk and register voters.
In order to get everything done, your life has to be tightly regimented down to the minute.
Opinions differ on whether or not it's important to get everything done.
But mostly, you'll feel better when you've had something to eat and a good night's sleep.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 10:43 AM
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To be fair, those are more me than Jammies.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 10:46 AM
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"In this house, we believe children and husbands don't have beliefs."


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 10:57 AM
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I mean, they can try.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 11:15 AM
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Deusche Welle: How the world press viewed the far-right surge in eastern German elections
Included are reactions from world powers France, Britain, Italy, Spain, Poland, the Netherlands, and Denmark.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 11:51 AM
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68: presumably a different one every 250 miles or so, yes.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 12:34 PM
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(I love your completely literal sign, heebie.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 12:53 PM
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"Sleep" is a metaphor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 1:32 PM
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I think some of my friends bought me one of those signs as a housewarming gift, but it hasn't arrived yet. I can't not display it, but it's really not the kind of thing I would ever have bought (at least, not since high school).

Meanwhile, I know the confirmation names of the women in my immediate family, but mainly because virtually all of us chose "Marie," with the exception of those whose middle name already was "Marie."


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 5:53 PM
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Although actually, can you reuse one of your baptismal names? I think my sister might have done that.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 5:53 PM
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You can't use "Hammer." Even if your first name is Michael.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 5:57 PM
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You could probably use Hammer as one of the baptismal names, but you'd better have a reason for the priest that doesn't sound anything like "I want him to be good at hitting people."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 6:04 PM
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I'm not sure Hammer is going to fly, but hey, apparently MC Hatebrand is all good.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 7:40 PM
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64: Thanks for the alert! The Lucia Joyce story is a heavy one.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 7:41 PM
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So I read a thing like

relatives of dead or missing Tamils have accused him of war crimes, including extra-judicial killings and abductions, in lawsuits filed against him in the United States. Rajapaksa has denied the accusations.
and think reflexively "No shit". But today I realized that, in this fallen age of shameless assholes, the last sentence actually adds information, tells us which norms the asshole considers himself to be operating within.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09- 2-19 8:19 PM
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NMM to Immanuel Wallerstein


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Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 3:44 AM
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Also to Albrecht von Wallenstein. I always got those two confused. NMM to either of them.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:08 AM
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I have one of his books in the house, from back when I read stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:22 AM
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Or maybe I read a library copy. The point is that I was ready to speak about World Systems Theory.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:30 AM
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It was a good theory, as far as systematic theories of the world go. I'm not really much for theory at the very high levels.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:35 AM
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My favorite theory was the one visualized as a maggot moving through an eleven-dimension cheese.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:42 AM
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I think international institutions were the metaphorical health inspectors.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 5:56 AM
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The only big time theory person I have actually met is Kenneth Waltz. I didn't like his theory, but he seemed nice enough.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 6:22 AM
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Social scientists who don't use SAS are usually a bit out of my area.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 7:07 AM
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Where's the recent comments sidebar at?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 7:50 AM
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It's back


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 7:51 AM
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93: Maybe it was neb that set up Unfogged so that the comments sidebar would disappear at random times, and then would come back as soon as Barry asked where it went.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09- 3-19 8:11 AM
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