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Yes! The Jolene one was great. Also the Jim Croce one.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 9-20 11:47 PM
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I think this

https://xkcd.com/1053/

is obligatory, in case someone hasn't seen it yet. Or recently enough.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 12:17 AM
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The one of them listening to Phil Collins and losing their minds at the drum riff on In The Air Tonight went viral. I think they're twin brothers.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 2:43 AM
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Theres a bunch of similar Youtube channels: mostly African-Americans reacting to mainstream and/or country or rock/metal hits. I'm an occasional watcher of a couple of them and enjoy them for much the same reason that you listed in the OP.

There's also an entire bunch of "vocal coach" reacts vids. With a sub-genre of people reacting to Jinjer's "Pisces" (literally dozens of those). *

e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk58gdnR0Lw

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyeoo5UCJU

* I highly recommend not googling before watching, and watch it all.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 3:09 AM
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I'm not going to let the internet trick me into appreciating Phil Collins.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 5:15 AM
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I noticed a few months ago that there was this genre of youtube video - - watch x react to seeing and/or hearing y for the first time! Oy! What is the world coming to!



Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 5:58 AM
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I think they're twin brothers.

In hindsight, they do call themselves TwinsTheNewTrend.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:13 AM
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The one of them listening to Phil Collins and losing their minds at the drum riff on In The Air Tonight went viral.

Who drops a drum beat AFTER THREE MINUTES?!?!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:14 AM
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re: 5

Heh. There's a guy called Tom Bukovac, who is a Nashville session guitarist, who has started recording daily or semi-daily CV19 vlog things, in which he plays some music, and chats about the process of music making, shows a few things on the guitar, etc. They are really fantastic. He has a sort of care-worn rumpled wisdom and he's an incredible guitar player -- in the sense that he's amazingly musical and creative, not that he's some sort of shredder -- and I think even non-guitar players would get a lot out of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7c9LjQZd0

As is often the case with guys who are elite Nashville session musos, he's not actually a big country music guy. He might have played the guitars on just about every pop-country or country-rock tune of the last 20+ years, but that's not the background he came from, or the music he likes.** He virtually never mentions country music, and mostly talks about bit of classic rock, RnB and soul music, and, his biggest love, 1970s English prog. He has been banging on about Genesis, and the genius of Peter Gabriel and to a less extent Phil Collins for months. Even to the extent of doing prog duos with his wife:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz5DMmhYJbs

** just like when Brent Mason makes a solo record it's mostly 40s swing and bebop.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:24 AM
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I was going to comment about Bukovac anyway. There's something joyous about watching someone who is really great at something, and unapologetic about it, and yet isn't a dick, and clearly loves music so much.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:28 AM
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6- I saw lots of those in the past but it was less cultural things than "deaf person hears for first time with new implants" or "baby encounters weird animal for first time".


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:43 AM
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8- One story about it had a link to a live version of the song with Collins wandering around the stage singing each line, and there's a drum set at the back and I was constantly wondering IS HE GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE DRUMS IN TIME?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:45 AM
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9, 10: Tom Beato's "What Makes This Song Great?" series on Youtube can also be really interesting.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:50 AM
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re: 13

Rick Beato. Yeah.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 6:57 AM
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Ha, yes, Rick. Tom Bukovac, Rick Beato.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 7:13 AM
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6 the goatse react videos got there first.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 7:20 AM
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There was once a time when having an idea meant that I'd have a rush of energy

Sympathies on this, I have a hard time in exactly this way-- immediately jumping to "where is this hoiung and how hard will it be" rather than enjoying and reaching for something new.

Let us alone. What is it that will last? All things are taken from us, and become Portions and parcels of the dreadful past. Let us alone. What pleasure can we have To war with evil? Is there any peace In ever climbing up the climbing wave?

On music, I had a moment in the pasta aisle of a grocery nearby last month where I was conpletely transfixed by Hall & Oates' Family Man on the PA. It might have been 4:21 though.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 8:23 AM
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Whoops, which markup element preserves linebreaks? Evidently not blockquote.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 8:24 AM
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re: 17.last

A while ago, maybe a year or so back, I listened to Daryl Hall being interviewed for Shane Theriot's podcast.* Through that I discovered the album he made with Robert Fripp, which is ... strange. Good, but strange. Some sort of strange missing link between PiL and Gang of Four, Philly soul, and prog.

And ... just to annoy Moby, I think it's Phil Collins on drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuyKBRnUAiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHX-vCr2KbI

* Theriot is musical director and guitarist for Hall & Oates, but was previously with the Neville Brothers, and loads of other New Orleans funk/soul/RnB acts.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 8:31 AM
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On missing links: There's a Cale/Eno album, Wrong Way Up, it's midway between genres I can recognize, one of them pop. Nice. Deceptively light.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 8:52 AM
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Daryl Hall liked one of my partner's instagram posts. I figure that's the reward for sticking with a classic: dog head out of car window. My partner took the picture near the city Daryl Hall lives in, so we figure some algorithm showed it to Hal based on location.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:10 AM
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Do they ever do it with really bad songs, like Rock Me Amadeus or anything by Starship?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:41 AM
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Falco was awesome.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:51 AM
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Charming videos. Watched Piece of my Heart and I will Always Love You -- both of which I would consider part of the canon.

They should try some Springsteen, maybe. No Surrender.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:52 AM
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22 Miracles would be good.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:53 AM
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Currently singers are name-checking themselves in more songs than ever, but they aren't claiming they are the historical equivalent of Mozart.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:53 AM
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22 We all have our betes noirs -- I'd say Maneater is among the worst of the hits during my hit-hearing time.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:56 AM
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6: My wife is a big fan of the You-tube try channel; it's mostly (some people) try out a foreign alcohol or food and describe their reaction. "Irish people try Cheesecake Factory for the first time", etc. They're handled pretty well; I think many of the "tryers" are comedians, which makes them good at quips -- and sometimes they illuminate folkways and phenomena, or just put a finger on "oh, I guess that thing's not as universal as I'd imagined". Rarely worth your full concentration, but for insomnia or background noise while you do something else, it does the trick.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 9:56 AM
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re: 27

What about this (mashup) version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCjr2EUHRuk

With the Supremes. It is mostly Diana Ross singing, though, rather than Daryl Hall.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 10:02 AM
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I want to see what happens if they have to listen to a 17 minute Phish song.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 10:03 AM
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Related, maybe: I smell pot more often when I go for walks now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 10:20 AM
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Oh, thank you, lw! That is such a marvellous poem. The other sort of canon: something kept alive over generations in readers' hearts. I think some of the ideas of 40-50s SFF will survive like that, but very little of the prose.

It's fun to reread Brave New World from time to time and see just how much Huxley got right in ways which history has obliterated because we think now that these developments were inevitable and must have seemed obvious.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 10:27 AM
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My wife is a big fan of the You-tube try channel; it's mostly (some people) try out a foreign alcohol or food and describe their reaction. "Irish people try Cheesecake Factory for the first time", etc. They're handled pretty well; I think many of the "tryers" are comedians, which makes them good at quips -- and sometimes they illuminate folkways and phenomena, or just put a finger on "oh, I guess that thing's not as universal as I'd imagined". Rarely worth your full concentration, but for insomnia or background noise while you do something else, it does the trick.

Interesting. I thought those things were all "Authentic foreign person tries disgusting white American version of their ethnic food, is disgusted".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 11:17 AM
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28: Wow, that's quite a given name, "Lolsy".


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 11:19 AM
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28,33. The ones I've watched seem a little exploitative-- funny villagers don't know what is hamburger, ha ha. The old man who explained "this food would be enjoyed by those who like such things" in response to the rude camera was a compensation. It'd be an easy genre to do though, so maybe some publishers do it well.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 12:47 PM
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"This is the Cheesecake Factory. It's where Americans who aren't Joe Biden have to go if they want to hurt God."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 12:50 PM
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They should do a bit where people from Austria go to Outback Steak House.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 1:04 PM
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Since this thread has already gone off topic, this seems like as good a place as any to note that one can waste a surprising amount of time looking for a satisfactory definition of "yacht rock".

It definitely feels like it refers to a real thing, but the exact parameters seem to be slippery.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 1:11 PM
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"No but zer has been a mistake. Ve do not have ze bloomin' onion in Vienna."


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 1:12 PM
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4: I did just what you said, watched without googling. That's really something.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 2:38 PM
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28/33/35: I somehow keep coming across the ones where the family gives Dad glasses that allow him to see in color for the first time and normally gruff man has big vulnerable emotions.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 3:30 PM
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Since this is the music thread, can I ask if anybody else noticed they are bleeping more things on the radio than before? Possibly nobody else listens to FM radio? Three or four times now I have heard Rhianna bleeped in a way I don't remember before ("--- in the air, I love the smell of it."). I wasn't aware that the word "sex" was obscene and in the context of the song, it's hard for me to think of a word to use in its place that doesn't sound like some kind of fetish.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 8:08 PM
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38 tierce on twitter recently called Little Feat yacht rock.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-10-20 11:34 PM
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42: it would be a good prank for a radio station to beep things unnnecessarily in a way that makes them sound much filthier than they actually are. "****ing nine to five, what a way to make a living."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 1:45 AM
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"want to **** ***** but the boss won't seem to let me"


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 3:22 AM
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"I **** you. You **** me."


Posted by: Opinionated Barney | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 5:04 AM
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"It was a teenage ***ing and the old folks ****ed them well"


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 5:06 AM
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"I **** the sheriff"


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 5:17 AM
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**** me Amadeus.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 5:33 AM
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What if that Marilyn Manson song, "I want to **** you like an animal, I want to feel you from the inside" is like this, and the **** is really "snuggle" or "be your litter-mate"?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 6:21 AM
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What if that Marilyn Manson song

Nine Inch Nails, no?


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 7:28 AM
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Who can remember that far back.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 7:51 AM
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Who can use punctuation?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 7:51 AM
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Robert Smith?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 8:24 AM
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That's not who I was expecting.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 8:36 AM
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https://twitter.com/hunteryharris/status/1293193491150000133?s=21


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-11-20 11:14 AM
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re: 38

I know it when I hear it (according to my own personal definition, anyway).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht_rock#Yacht_Rock_creators

Is more or less how I tend to read it, although I would go for just the first 5 of those, and I'd add in some specifics about the music, e.g. chord progressions that feature major 7ths, 2nds/9ths and various upper chord extensions, certain kinds of half-time shuffle groove, etc.**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldtieSEyQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMI81yIlT0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waIBA6_0GQc (they are hilarious pricks talking about the solo, too)


* not remotely original to me
** whether that's Bernard Purdie, or Jeff Porcaro, or Rick Marotta, or whoever.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-12-20 3:38 AM
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