Re: Guest Post - Sohla

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There's no link to the article in the OP.

I've found searching the archive using DuckDuckGo more effective than Google lately.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 5:18 AM
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Whoops, fixed.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 5:43 AM
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Google is going to cite to Unfogged to prove it doesn't have a monopoly .


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 6:07 AM
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Wow, I can't find the prior discussion of the BA Test Kitchen blowup even using Duck Duck Go. Maybe we didn't talk about it here, and instead I'm remembering conversations other places.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 6:50 AM
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I remember learning that BA was racist and sexist. I assumed I learned it here, but I could be wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 6:58 AM
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I just searched my inbox, and it wasn't a guest post, and I wouldn't have posted it, so if it came up, it was dropped in a thread.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:00 AM
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The blowup happened about a week after I discovered the videos, and I was still enjoying them. I felt both very plugged-in to the moment and very annoyed that something I was enjoying went wrong so quickly.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:32 AM
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I think BA might have come up in a discussion of Alison Roman, but I recall some specific discussion of videos (LB, did you mention that Newt watched some of the Test Kitchen videos?). I also remember DQ sharing some illuminating stories about sexism in the food industry.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:33 AM
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Now that I'm thinking about it, I believe BenW wrote the Alison Roman post.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:36 AM
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Oh right, pretend that I remembered other FPPs exist when I wrote 6.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:44 AM
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Here's the post about Roman, and it's an interesting (though slightly contentious) comment thread, but it doesn't mention BA: http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_17259.html


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:49 AM
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The article linked in that previous OP, does talk about BA: https://www.eater.com/2020/5/20/21262304/global-pantry-alison-roman-bon-appetit


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 7:51 AM
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I think that's what I read.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 8:12 AM
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Comparing Brad to Trump seems really unnecessarily vicious. He comes off on screen as a lovable golden retriever type, not an aggressive asshole.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 8:20 AM
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Surely the more apt comparison is to Biden, who's well-like but bumbling and somehow beat several more qualified women.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 8:26 AM
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15: I don't want to refight the primary, especially not in defense of Biden, but qualifications was Biden's strong point.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 9:10 AM
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Off topic troll alert

I'm just watching Michael Dell's keynote and who's a special guest but the GRIT LADY!!! Talking about how the virus has turned us all into animals in a learned helplessness experiment and how we need...


....*Grit*....

and, you know, an unrivalled range of enterprise hardware products.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 9:14 AM
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I have to admit, I heard Angela Duckworth interviewed on Armchair Expert and went from disliking her intensely to liking her and feeling like her point has been distorted by journalists.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 9:22 AM
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an interesting (though slightly contentious) comment thread

That thread was brutal. It still depresses me a little bit to remember it.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 9:36 AM
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talent, charisma, and hard work

I can't see this without rewriting it in my head as "charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent."


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 9:43 AM
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My wife and I watched and enjoyed the BA videos for a year before Covid, and were dismayed at the pay revelations and poor response by BA. Our gateway were Claire's Gourmet Makes videos, branching into several of the other people's videos. They were well edited and gave a nice sense of personality (whether real or artificial) -- it was very low stakes and enjoyable.

We've since followed Sohla into Stump Sohla and "Off-Script With Sohla"; both are fun and still well produced.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 10:03 AM
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18: but did that make you want to buy a server from her?


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 10:36 AM
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Of course not. I just need to have high expectations and high levels of support for my old server to produce at the top end of its natural range.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 11:01 AM
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Do people have servers in home? I'm behind on the Covid nesting stuff. I'm only up to baking.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 11:15 AM
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We all need to believe that there was a work-related reason for Alex to watch "Michael Dell's keynote", although maybe recreational tech conference viewing is a new lifestyle trend. Stranger things...

Oh man: someone is going to propose the ghastly neologism "nestalgia" for the homesickness everyone will feel when office work resumes, mark my words.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 11:28 AM
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https://angeladuckworth.com/grit-scale/

Ok, everybody post your annual income, your SAT score, and your grit score.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 12:07 PM
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You know just by clicking on that link and filling out the questionnaire I already failed at grit.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 12:18 PM
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+ ,


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 12:18 PM
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Take that quiz with your BFF and each fill it out for the other person and see if you guys are really besties!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 12:18 PM
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They are all 3.10


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 12:33 PM
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I tried it again and got a 5.0. It's not very hard to guess what you're supposed to say


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 1:01 PM
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On topic of cooking, my Cal II class got in a big conversation over chat while I was lecturing about fideo, which I've never had before, but now I've promised to make it this weekend and report back.

They all said that this is fancier than their families usually make, because it's usually a simple quick comfort food to whip up with maybe just an onion, garlic, and a few tomatoes, plus the fideo noodles, but that the general idea is right.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 1:49 PM
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3 peppercorns?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 2:04 PM
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Technically π but they're rounding down to keep it simple.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 2:08 PM
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I took that quiz honestly and of course I'm in the 10th percentile. It's basically the anti-ADHD quiz.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 3:06 PM
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26. Turns out I'm pretty gritty, but tbh I don't think it's grit so much as mulish obstinacy -- once I've set a course for myself, I lack the imagination and initiative necessary to veer from it. In many parts of my life -- school, work projects, practicing music -- this trait has worked out fine, but I've also wasted years of my life doggedly trying to salvage obviously doomed relationships because it's so hard for me to abandon anything.

My forthcoming THE DARK SIDE OF GRIT book will also have a chapter about how people like me should never start playing phone games, lest they be condemned to spend the rest of their waking hours joylessly completing the requisite tasks. A few years ago, all my friends downloaded Neko Atsume. After few weeks of cooing about their cute cat pictures, they all abandoned or deleted the game. But there I still was, day after day, wearily but diligently farming my cats. Not because it was fun. I had just succumbed to inertia. Maybe it's not grit. Maybe I'm a robot.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 3:09 PM
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I took that quiz honestly and of course I'm in the 10th percentile. It's basically the anti-ADHD quiz.

It's not a great quiz -- it's obvious what the "correct" answers are, but also not-obvious how one would decide between the various options. There's no way to know what baseline one should be comparing to.

Also, I enjoyed Range which argues that the way that GRIT assumes a value to not switching goals/plans is arguably counter-productive.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 3:13 PM
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Maybe blaming everything on Iran will eventually work?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-21-20 5:24 PM
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After few weeks of cooing about their cute cat pictures, they all abandoned or deleted the game. But there I still was, day after day, wearily but diligently farming my cats.

I identify with this, as I figure out what to post in my weblog for today, October 22, 2020.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-22-20 3:49 AM
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The interview with her was more nuanced than that dumb quiz, for sure. For one thing, they were like, "Isn't grit just actually being interested in something? Can anyone actually white-knuckle their way into grit, or is it all just that our brains work much better when we're interested?" Or at least, I had that thought while listening.

The other funny thing about the quiz, to me: my instinct is to think about areas where I'm successful, and give myself high marks. But Ile's comment about ADHD made me go back and look at the quiz through the lens of, say, my house, and then I score miserably on it. I'm just so marvelously adept at ignoring my half-finished lazy crap all over the house that I don't even pull it to mind when someone asks me about my half-finished lazy crap.

Anyway, that quiz itself is also a pile of half finished lazy crap.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-22-20 3:54 AM
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