Re: Guest Post - Fungi

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I saw a comment recently (source and validity unknown), that it's even more difficult to develop new antifungal medications than antibiotics because it's harder to target fungi without also affecting the body.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 6:27 AM
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But you had 17 years.


Posted by: Opinionated Penisless Cicada | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 6:34 AM
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Coincidentally, Scientific American has a cover article about the threat of fungal diseases: Deadly Fungi Are the Newest Emerging Microbe Threat All Over the World


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 6:41 AM
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Paywalled, but a screenshot of how they got fungus to replicate UK motorways circulated on Twitter and seemed singularly unpersuasive to me, because they were listing motorways that connect major urban areas in nearly straight lines. They didn't replicate something like the M25.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 6:57 AM
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Many phenomena - wars, plagues, sudden audits - have been advanced as evidence for the hidden hand of Satan in the affairs of Man, but whenever students of demonology get together the M25 London orbital motorway is generally agreed to be among the top contenders for exhibit A.


Posted by: Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 7:22 AM
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We barely have freeways that get more than 100 feet above the ground.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 8:45 AM
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I feel like my toe nail could tell a great deal about living with a fungus, but it's too shy to break the silence.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 8:51 AM
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But do they have pop songs written about them like, Spadina Expressway (background).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 8:52 AM
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8 to 6.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 8:52 AM
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You can plot the most efficient straight line connections between multiple points with soap film. I did it as a project for high school math. So the real shocker is that fungi can pass high school math.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 9:05 AM
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Hyphae electrical signals are quite interesting, I did not know about those. Tips of plant roots are also the most dynamically adaptive part of the organism, and there's the way tree crowns do not grow into each other in forest canopies as well.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 9:34 AM
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There's great footage of the fungus attacking ants.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 9:38 AM
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Fuck those ants


Posted by: Opinionated Fungus | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 10:33 AM
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Especially fuck that one particular ant.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:03 PM
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Also fungi can have thousands of reproductive sexes.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:20 PM
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Well, I'm not that young anymore.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:24 PM
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I read something the other day, which I typically can't find, which said that trees in a forest exchange information about things like prevailing conditions by using fungal hyphae linking their roots as a kind of telecoms network.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:37 PM
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1: Doesn't seem to likely to me. When you are hunting for new drugs, you often screen for antibacterial, antifungal, and cytotoxicity at the same time. There are usually lots of hits for all three (meaning the compound is just toxic in a nonspecific way), many for antifungal and antibacterial, and few that hit one or the other (implying a particular target). Not sure about later stage drug discovery, but that's what I was used to looking at when I did that kind of thing.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:52 PM
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15 IYKWIM AITYD


Posted by: Opinionated Fungus | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 12:57 PM
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This all reminds me of how in the new Star Trek: Discovery the ship runs on a mycelial network drive.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06- 7-21 5:45 PM
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Ants already have failrly powerful antifungal enzymes that allow them to live underground- not an insect guy but my understanding is that ancestor was basiclly a wasp, to enable life underground a specialized gland evolved for ants, metapleural it's called. The complicating factor is that endosymbionts are an essential part of ant adaptation, and those are both rapidly evolving and much less deeply studied.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 06- 8-21 8:03 AM
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4/10: Yeah, given that, I wondered why the fungi thing is a big deal. There's some simple physical optimization underlying it. So why use fungi to better understand these problems, when we can just use a traveling salesman approximation or linear programming or whatever? This is exactly what math and computation is for.

A while ago I found a collection somebody had made of solutions cranks made to the Millennium Prize Problems, and one of them was somebody who said that that soap bubble thing counts as a P-time solution to traveling salesman, so P = NP. He even LaTeXed it up, all two or three sentences of it.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06- 8-21 8:26 AM
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I'll get a post up when I get home. Goddamn post-covid kid summer lessons all over the goddamn town.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06- 8-21 9:15 AM
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If only you had someone to help optimize your route.


Posted by: Opinionated Slime Mold | Link to this comment | 06- 8-21 10:55 AM
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The fungi piece produced a wonderful letter in the next issue:

The news, delivered by Francis Gooding, that slime moulds can map the Tokyo subway system in a single day has revolutionised the way I clean my bathroom (LRB, 20 May). Until humanity has developed the skills necessary to negotiate with these species, I shall be adopting a policy of live and let live.

I have anonymised it.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 06- 8-21 1:45 PM
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