Re: Check Ins, Reassurances, and Concerns, 7/1

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I got a promotion which isn't effective until next month but my boss was nice enough to tell me before I'm on vacation next week. Now I can browse sex grottoes on Zillow during my time off.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 8:36 AM
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Also I built a new garden bed and cage this spring (spending way more than is reasonable for a garden project) and my tomatoes are in by far the best condition they've ever been at this point in the season. I just hope they don't all ripen and rot when we're away.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 8:44 AM
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Our first grandchild is due in September. Found out my son's wife's mother who lives with them is an anti-vaxxer. Certainly not wild about that but infant probably not too much at risk. She arrived at her position mostly due to her personal investment in various kinds of Woo®--crystals, astrology, purity of precious bodily fluids,etc.--rather than malevolent MAGAtism (although where they live they are surrounded by that as well).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 8:59 AM
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That's not how you get pregnant.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 9:00 AM
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A good friend's daughter-in-law has a mother who is deeply enmeshed in the MAGA cult* but who finally agreed to get vaccinated. However, now the DIL is being bombarded with complaints from her mother ascribing every real and imagined ailment to the vaccine.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 9:08 AM
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"various kinds of Woo® - crystals, astrology, purity of precious bodily fluids,etc.--rather than malevolent MAGAtism"
The term I saw to describe that is Woo-anon.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 9:29 AM
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"Wuhan-on" is for theories about how Covid started.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 9:59 AM
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I got one of the jobs I interviewed for! My background check went through today and now I just need to put in notice at my current job. Exciting!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 10:59 AM
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Congratulations!


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:04 AM
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Congrats!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:07 AM
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8: Congratulations. Instead of notice, do "2 beers and the inflatable slide. "


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:09 AM
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What's the new job like? Does it come with a good hat?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:10 AM
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Congrats!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:23 AM
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Thanks, everyone! No cool hat with the new job, but it's pretty interesting and I think it'll be fun. It's a city planning job, but with the city health department rather than the planning department. Apparently there are some major HUD grants for community development stuff that (at least here) flow through the health department, so they need someone there to put together the applications and administer the grants. Due in part to COVID stimulus, there's currently a lot more money in these programs than there has been in the past, so it's an exciting opportunity to do some very cool stuff. It's also just a better match with my background and interests than my current job, in addition to being a big step up in pay. So yeah, very excited about it all around.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:36 AM
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That sounds amazing!


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 11:45 AM
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Sure. Except for the hat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 12:05 PM
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14: That does sound like a great improvement, congratulations!


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 12:32 PM
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I guess he can just buy a hat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 12:34 PM
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He's old enough that it's no longer improper.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 12:44 PM
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I actually own several hats, but I rarely or never wear most of them.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 1:07 PM
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Congratulations, teo! That sounds great!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 1:10 PM
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20: I never wear more than one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 1:12 PM
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Last fall I tried to order an outdoor patio heater, to help with the "we have to be outside for safety but it's cold" problem. I found a place that supposedly had them in stock and made an order, only to see it get delayed until November... December... April... and just now, finally, cancelled. Probably for the best.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 1:33 PM
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Why would Teo need a new hat if his Tivo isn't irregularly reset?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 3:36 PM
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I guess we're better than Germans?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 4:27 PM
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Congrats, teo!


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 07- 1-21 6:19 PM
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Congrats, teo and Stormcrow!


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 12:56 AM
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and SP and tomatoes!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 1:12 AM
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Another unwanted complication in my son's and DIL's lives has resulted in my learning about a great legal term new to me: remainderman. Life estates, pre-existing home equity loans, and poorly-written wills how could they possibly go wrong? In many complicated ways it turns out.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 4:17 AM
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I have a citations question. In my discipline, authors are just listed alphabetically. In other disciplines, authors are listed by snootiness. If I'm citing a paper from a different discipline in a my own discipline, do I use our author-ordering or theirs?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 4:24 AM
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I know less about this than almost anyone else here, but I would expect author-ordering to be fixed in the order on the paper as published.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 4:27 AM
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30: Be consistent with the style wherever it is you are publishing.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 4:42 AM
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Though I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you talking about sorting authors within your entire bibliograpy, or sorting multiple authors within a single citation? If the former, 32; if the latter, copy the sorting used in the source publication.


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33 last = 31.


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29: Oh, yuck. Is this getting into rules against perpetuities territory?


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 5:29 AM
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Have to stick with the sorting in the source publication because changing it will make it harder to find the correct reference. Was that paper Stormcrow, J.P, Breath, L., Character, M., and Geebie, H.? Or Breath, L., Character, M., Geebie, H., and Stormcrow, J.P.?
My field uses reverse snootiness order but it sometimes leads to stupid outcomes like this.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 5:42 AM
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Thanks, all!


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 5:56 AM
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The alphabetical rule in math is cutely called the Hardy-Littlewood rule, and:

What was unique about Hardy and Littlewood was that they had established a long and harmonious mathematical collaboration based on the following rules or axioms, spelt our by Bohr (1952), and paraphrased here as: Rule 1: what they wrote to each other was completely indifferent whether what they said was right or wrong. As Hardy put it, otherwise they could not write completely as they pleased since they would have to feel a certain responsibility thereby; Rule 2: They were under no obligation to reply, or even to read, let alone answer, any letter (or communication) that one may have sent to the other. As they said, it might be that the recipient of the letter would prefer not to work at that particular time, or perhaps that he was just then interested in other problems; Rule 3: They had to try not try to think about the same details, and in fact, it was preferable that they not do so; Rule 4 (the most critical and thought-provoking): To avoid any arguments, all scientific papers would be published with both names, even if one of them had not contributed anything to the work.

This is especially great, from mathematician Graham Fan Chun:

"If the collaboration already has started, the Hardy-Littlewood rule says that it stays a joint work even if the contribution is not of the same proportion. You have a choice of not to collaborate the next time. (If you have many ideas, one paper doesn't matter. If you don't have many ideas, then it really doesn't matter.)"

Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 5:58 AM
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You'd never reorder the authors in the bibliography itself, the citation should be exactly the standard bibliographic info so people can find it. If you are mentioning the authors themselves in the text "In their series of papers on regular affine snozzberries [1,2,3,4], Hardy, Littlewood, and Ramanujan constructed the Wonka Snozzberry and showed it was regular, in this paper we show it's affine" then you can put them in alphabetical order if you prefer.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 6:23 AM
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29 Hah! I had a case where a bank had mistakenly loaned money to the remainderman, who then went bankrupt. Then the life tenant stopped paying property taxes. The bank got bought by a bank which got bpught by a bank which got bought by a bank.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 6:59 AM
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House was on the Jersey Shore, bankruptcy was in Arizona. When I inherited the case, we were well into a foolish and correctly unsuccessful attempt to get the bankruptcy court to make the trustee sell the property.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 7:04 AM
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Eventually the guy with a tax deed made an offer, which meant I had to find someone at the new bank who could say yes, which was a lot more difficult that you'd have thought it would be.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 7:09 AM
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42: does "guy with the tax deed" mean just guy? or local government entity?


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 7:47 AM
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IANANJL, but generally, if you don't pay your property taxes, after a certain point, the county auctions your property. You have a time period to redeem it -- paying the buyer what was paid plus a decent interest (which is why some people do this as an investment vehicle), but after a certain point, they own it and you don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_sale#Tax_deed_sale


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 9:10 AM
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Which is why my cousins are paying property taxes on land they don't own yet. The aunt with the life estate just stopped paying them.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 9:16 AM
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35: Is this getting into rules against perpetuities territory?

No. Nothing so exotic. More just in addition to what seems to be semi-complicated legal interests (a foreclosure process has been started) there are various levels of bad and good blood between the executor of the will, the two (mutually hostile) remaindermen, and the life estate holder. I don't actually know all of the underlying facts yet so really can't have an opinion but in reading about it I found some relatively specific information about this issues from the state in question. That is in contrast with other legal stuff I have been involved with which have generally yielded vaguely similar cases law at best. Maybe because there seems to be a lot of avenues for potential mischief. In particular attempts to scrape off remaindermen via non-payment of taxes and interest on loans followed by purchase at the auction by the life estate holder seems to have been tried and swatted back multiple times.

Still a couple of potentially pertinent questions have come to mind:
1) My understanding is that the establishment of a life estate in a will (and real estate in general) is not part of probate (maybe I am wrong that it is only a pre-existing life estate that does not go through probate). In that case who formally makes the determination of validity that should result in changes in the land records? Is it the court where the will is filed?

2) In general it seems to be that life estate holders are responsible for interest and remaindermen for principal on loans. This would seem to make it quite complicated for mortgages (and foreclosures even if the foreclosure is nominally for failure to pay interest). Of course complexity is no barrier to being part of the legal system...

In this case there are clearly many specific relevant facts that are unknown to me, but to even begin to get my head around it things like the above question would help.

Of course the relevant parties need counsel which for reasons not entirely obvious to me they seem to be failing to do.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 12:36 PM
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IANAPL, but, physically, isn't the conveyance of property interests to the life tenant and the remaindermen a part of the distribution of assets? It's not like you have an existing life estate, or joint tenancy with survivorship, where title would automatically change as a matter of law.

Actually, you should just ignore me on this subject.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 2:08 PM
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47: I guess, but I realize that I really am not sure exactly how this stuff works as other competent family members have been executors and things basically "worked." In this case I am not sure any of that happened in a regular process (or even if the will was recorded with the county), I can find that all out but so far the public records accessible from my family room don't show anything changing. I was trying to stay way out, but obviously I am inching in...


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 2-21 3:51 PM
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We went to a concert last night. Full venue, no distancing, not a mask in sight. I think it was pretty much everyone's first, including the band -- Brandi Carlile, who was visibly and continually moved to be back at it. Last night was the make-up date for those of us with tickets to her cancelled May 2020 show -- after they scheduled it, they ended up adding two more nights for her. I guess there are that many people ready to go, and probably not as many venues nationwide as Before.

Outdoor venue, capacity 4200.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 6:44 AM
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I think the last concert I saw was Aimee Mann, probably a year before the quarantine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 7:12 AM
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I went to get groceries this morning and saw the car from the "Pound on my Muffin" video.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 7:44 AM
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Further to 49, she closed with a (supposedly impromptu) three part harmony plus acoustic guitar version of We Belong. Which, on a glorious Montana summer night, after all of everything else, was worth the price of admission.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 12:00 PM
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8: congratulations, Teo.

Driving up to Vermont for three weeks to stay with my parents and my sister's family. Last year this was a lifesaver. City life really sucked in the early pandemic days. Nothing was open, not even parks for a while, and there was no childcare to be had. Now that's no longer the case, so this isn't as needed, but it should still be pretty nice.

Also, I'm trying to get better about physical fitness, because I've really let myself go over the past year plus. I haven't stepped on a scale, but there are other signs.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 2:37 PM
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The last concert I saw before everything shut down was Gabriela & Rodrigo, which was fantastic.

The household is all vaccinated now and we leave for Mexico in a few days.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 3:42 PM
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I guess technically they go by Rodrigo y Gabriela, but they were both there, so.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 3:44 PM
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That's a musical act I actually know. I bet they were amazing.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 3-21 4:06 PM
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Are you giving odds?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 5:12 AM
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OP: How do you track your sets when you even lift? Is there an app? My old gym used to have big, poster board sheets, but that was pre-smart phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:01 AM
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I could just create a spreadsheet on my phone, but I'm hoping some app exists that will track things and also call me "bro" when I reach milestones.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:19 AM
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There's a million of them. I can't remember the name of the one I was using when I was lifting pre-pandemic, but it wasn't super great so it's not worth remembering. I don't know if any of them will call you "bro" or comment on your increasing swole-itude.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:35 AM
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I've got a follow-up interview with the dean on Wednesday.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:35 AM
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Some reviews: https://www.verywellfit.com/best-weightlifting-apps-4777293


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:35 AM
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Terrific! If it's like it is here, the real interview is the first one, and all you have to do with the higher-ups is not bite them.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 7:36 AM
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It'll be done via Zoom so that will be hard to do.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 8:21 AM
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61: Great news. Good luck.
62: Thanks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 8:24 AM
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58: Don't use mine that was discontinued in 2018 and ate my data a few weeks ago.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 8:30 AM
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Good luck Barry!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 9:44 AM
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Fingers crossed, Barry.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 10:53 AM
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Good luck, Barry!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 11:27 AM
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Thanks all!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 2:44 PM
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Best of luck to you, Barry!


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 4:37 PM
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A lyft for six miles in chicago was over $40. I guess the NYT wasnt kidding when they said the subsidy was over.


Posted by: Zedsville | Link to this comment | 07- 4-21 6:12 PM
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re: lifting apps

I use Strong, which is listed on the page LB linked above. It's simple to use and lets me create new workouts on the fly and when I create a new workout and add an exercise I've done recently, it automatically shows me what my sets/weights were, which is handy.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 2:28 AM
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Second vaccine! off to kiss the bus stop!

PS I don't use any lift apps, just a spreadsheet and the incredible T-Nation and its forum.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 4:20 AM
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Best of luck, Barry.

Very belated, but congrats to Teo as well.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 6:02 AM
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74: Are you fully recovered from COVID now? Did you have one dose before you got sick?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 6:13 AM
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76: I haven't had it to the best of my knowledge.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 7:02 AM
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76: if you mean me, then yes, we are both completely recovered!


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 7:03 AM
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All British people look the same. Also, great.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 7:05 AM
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79: That's really embarrassing. But maybe all British people whose names start with the same letter look the same is true for me.

76: Are you due for a 1st or 2nd vaccine?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 7:38 AM
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80: I just got no.2


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 7:41 AM
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I'm getting an antibody test sent out.* I'm not expecting it to show anything, as I think I had COVID early in the 1st wave (March 2020),** which I assume is far too long ago to still have antibodies. Unless I was wrong then, and have had it more recently. I'm still curious, though.

* Govt is sending them out to anyone who works in certain professions, etc or who signed up to one of the COVID symptom tracking apps. I did sign up to one of those apps, but haven't been very consistent about recording symptoms.
** I had a cold/flu type thing that kept me off work for a week, and then I had lingering shortness of breath that lasted for a month or two after. Bad enough that I found myself getting out of breath on conference calls. But, I didn't have a high fever, or a very bad cough. So, who knows. I've had a period of lingering asthma type symptoms once before, bad enough to require an inhaler, after a bad cold/chest infection, which wasn't COVID (but was the right time period to have been some kind of H1N1 thing).


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 8:40 AM
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74: I probably will just use a spreadsheet. I tried a couple of apps and they seemed really involved. I don't want a new life plan so much as I want to remember where to put the pins on the machines.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 8:41 AM
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Covid is ripping through my son's school at the moment. His year is the only year that hasn't got at least one entire class out. Two friends' kids were isolating for 10 days, returned to school on Friday, and were both exposed to someone infected AGAIN on the one day they were in school, and are now isolating again for 10 days. That's pretty harsh on 6 year olds.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 8:42 AM
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It is weird how few people I know locally who got covid. And by locally, I mean in my actually city. Lots of people I know out in the burbs got it, along with people I know in Nebraska.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 8:56 AM
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NMM to Richard Lewontin.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 10:38 AM
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His wife died 3 days ago too.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 11:53 AM
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The family death announcement says that he was a volunteer firefighter.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 11:54 AM
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If he got paid, he would have had trouble with the NCAA.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 12:02 PM
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I need an RT-PCR Covid test within 72 hours of my arrival to return to Arrakis. I'm having a hell of a time finding a place that will give me results within 48 hours out on LI. It's looking like I'll have to go to JFK to get it done either the day before my departure or much earlier the day of my departure.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 12:03 PM
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If you can connect through Pittsburgh, they have a rapid testing site on the airport on the A concourse.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 12:07 PM
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Jerry Coyne, who is usually an asshole of PZ Myers proportions, has got a really lovely, thoughtful and generous piece about Lewontin up on his site. Everyone I know who knew him speaks well of him as a man and he was of course a really important scientist.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 12:56 PM
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You can buy OTC covid tests here. We used one last week. It felt futuristic but also like a pregnancy test.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 2:09 PM
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Did you pee on it? Because I think that's wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 3:43 PM
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We peed in our noses and then used a q-tip swab, like a normal covid test.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 5-21 4:27 PM
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Urineti pot.


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