Re: Negative twelve dimensional chess

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That's the fucking snowflake-est thing I've seen since Twitter banned Trump.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 6:48 AM
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You're just saying that to triple-reverse engineer them into NOT getting the vaccine until Trump doesn't win in 2028.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 6:51 AM
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I'm saying we should outlaw putting your penis in a Hoover Dustette just in case it works.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 6:54 AM
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Cuck me once, shame on me. Cuck me twice...won't get cucked again.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 7:02 AM
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Just everyone get their own vacuum.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 7:24 AM
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Anyway, the number of people fighting with the invisible liberal in their head must just be astounding if someone is willing to put that thought into print.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:04 AM
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And isn't Biden planning to deport Haitian refugees in Texas?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:17 AM
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Like the miniature angel/devils on their shoulders have been replaced with miniature Biffs/McFly's. The only metric is "can I beat it up or will it beat me up?"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:18 AM
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7: that's what I've heard. It's pretty horrible.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:18 AM
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I think Biden should try breaking the tension by mispronouncing "Haitians" like Cher in Clueless.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:21 AM
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And trying to get Wallace Shawn laid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:28 AM
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I wonder if that article will convince any Trump supporters to get vaccinated.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:29 AM
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oh, encuckify themselves? Maybe.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:33 AM
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Wallace Shawn is probably too old to sleep with that many wives.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:36 AM
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Literally nothing is ever their fault, no? But I see this as hopeful, indirectly. Vaccines work. Sensible people would take vaccines, if only they weren't bullied into not submitting to bullies by taking vaccines. Thus, the rising death rate is the fault of liberals. It's almost engaging with reality!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:40 AM
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What the hell is wrong with people?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:44 AM
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Given that the people who read that website already think dangerous, hateful thoughts, this article seems like an improvement. I hope it does lead to people being vaccinated. And I think prominent liberals should be whining on Twitter about how awful and unfair this article is, to make it more effective.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:45 AM
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They hate us for our freedom to get life-saving vaccines.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:51 AM
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I think we should require the needle used to look like an erect penis.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:56 AM
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Ideally, Wallace Shawn's if he's open to licensing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:57 AM
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Dalriata has a constructive suggestion here.

Can anyone explain the reference to "drone striking seven children"? Is it that seven is a magic number or something, or possibly that the deaths of foreign children should only be allowed in the Sonoran desert?


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:15 AM
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It's from the news.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:17 AM
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We don't get that over here.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:53 AM
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The steam packets, you know.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:53 AM
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It's the latest right wing outrage that Biden is a monster because the CIA and army fucked up and bombed civilians for probably the 1000th time in the last 20 years, but only Republican presidents are allowed to bomb brown people with no criticism. When Democrats do it it's "wah the dog" to distract from some other controversy because of course Trump never had any of those.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:55 AM
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See here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 10:02 AM
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Subsequent reporting has confirmed the intelligence was almost certainly false and misread patterns- eg the target was part of an NGO and the suspected explosives were actually drinking water cans, the "secondary explosion" was just the gas in the car.
Also I prefer Wah the Dog because it sounds more like something the big babies in the modern conservative movement would say.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 10:14 AM
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"Every box of vaccinations is personally teabagged by President Obama to reflect the Democratic Party's ownership of all the science. "


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 11:15 AM
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Wasn't that great when the Tea Party started out calling themselves the Tea Baggers for a moment?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 11:20 AM
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Yes, but this is better. The upper arm is the fourth hole. We must protect it. Aaaah.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 11:23 AM
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So the Trump supporters still have their upper arm hymens intact and are saving themselves for ...Trump, I guess?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 11:26 AM
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It makes more sense that the horse de-worming medication.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 11:29 AM
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My kids are very fond of asking me to explain how a Trump supporter could believe [this] and [this other apparently contradictory thing]. There's never a satisfactory answer.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 12:09 PM
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I can only handle schadenfreude in small doses any more. For one thing, I am being won over to the side of sympathy and sadness for these idiots. Also, I am filled with dread that ultimately, the Trumpists are going to be Darwin's winners, along with the cockroaches and rats.

But for those of you who haven't had your fill of the misfortunes of idiots, I recently came across SORRYANTIVAXXER.COM, a web site compiling the stories of dead anti-vaxxers.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 12:38 PM
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Haven't you ever heard of the Herman Cain Awards?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 12:40 PM
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The link in 34 is worse than the Herman cain awards, because it keeps emphasizing how many children are losing a parent. And a surprising number where both parents die of Covid.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 12:44 PM
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25: It's the latest right wing outrage that Biden is a monster because the CIA and army fucked up and bombed civilians for probably the 1000th time in the last 20 years

Also the media because they are still fucking out of their gourds* over the Afghanistan thing. An occasional actual clarifying story with some nuance but the bigs are mostly still all in on the outrage. For instance my wife watches NBC nightly to see what the no-crazy old people of the country see each night and last week there was some random non-newsy piece where Andre Mitchell talked with Leon Panetta who more in sorrow than anger lamented how much less safe from terrorism we are now.

*For instance Jonathan Swan of Axios tweeted a heartfelt sentiment about the kids. He or Axios has not to my recollection written or responded to anything of that sort prior.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 1:46 PM
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36: the one that was just heartbreaking to me was a pregnant woman in Alabama who got COVID and died. Her first kids was born, and then 3 weeks later the father died. It was reported that the baby was now a ward of the state. Much desired, but likely to be adopted out. I don't think she was a crazy anti-vaxxer, but she wasn't sure if the vaccine was safe in pregnancy. Not sure why her husband wasn't vaccinated.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 3:05 PM
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He was in fear for his balls.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 5:22 PM
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The posts and comments at 34.2 are all so shitty and cruel.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:18 PM
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You really aren't ready for the Herman Cain Awards.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:24 PM
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Honestly, I keep trying to quit looking myself.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:29 PM
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At least I learned that there's a Letterkenney in Ireland in addition to the one in Canada.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 8:56 PM
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That's what I appreciates about you, Moby.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-20-21 9:48 PM
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And there's a Kilkenny in Ireland in addition to the one in South Park.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 3:27 AM
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The Herman Cain awards at least just focus on the social media posts of the person who died of Covid, as opposed to the tragedy of their passing. Maybe it's still just as awful and mean-spirited, but it seems more impersonal and limited to their public persona.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 5:24 AM
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I guess. But if Herman Cain were a real person, it would seem cruel.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 5:28 AM
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When I was a kid riding through Omaha, my uncle would point out Cain's house.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 5:40 AM
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I did guess it was that drone strike, but considering the tens of thousands of children that the US must already have killed in that way, I thought it was maybe too obviously hypocritical even for the -- oh, forget it. Nothing is too obviously hypocritical any more.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 6:50 AM
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49: I still do not know how conscious this is. It's so ubiquitous that I would think the shift to "overt and proud" hypocrisy would have happened by now-- dominance is the only rule!-- but maybe not.

Lili L on the Herman Cain Awards.

Despite reading loads of statistics and case histories and news articles about the pandemic, r/HermanCainAward became my most thorough source on what it's like for a person to die from COVID. I understand the disease more deeply because I have read so many viciously curated "stories" in which ordinary people blathering about politics end up narrating their decline from it--with help from their families--as optimistically as they can. They are younger than COVID patients used to be. Trying to put a positive spin on things. Soliciting prayers. Generally avoiding conversions. They do not expect to die. It's relentless reading. And it keeps ending up the same way.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 1:35 PM
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50.2: That's a really thoughtful and interesting piece. Thanks for linking it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 2:14 PM
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Seconding


Posted by: Nw | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 2:39 PM
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Now I'm wondering if r/dumbassgraveyard has a certain poignancy that I'm missing by avoiding it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 6:55 PM
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The Herman Cain awarders seem displeased with the article and its (qualified) implication that they're a bunch of ghouls. I have no idea if this is fair or not. Obviously far, far more of the terrible people survive the disease than die, so the comeuppance-gratification experience is largely fantasy. While I don't wish the death rate were higher, it does seem to fall in this range where it's both quite destructive and still easy to minimize. Just like climate change! Hooray!


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 7:01 PM
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I have to believe that you can experience the full poignancy of "r/dumbassgraveyard" while still avoiding it.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 7:03 PM
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I think the last bit from that link is correct:

I'm not sure that matters; no one could argue that a place where people gather to mock the dead is "moral," or accuse it of hypocrisy, or of virtue signaling, or of coastal elitism. It is an anti-persuasive venue, a place that dispenses with rational appeals for people to behave better in favor of something much more primal and horrifying. And who knows? Maybe it's persuading people specifically because it's not trying to.

We're all jaded on things that sound like they're try to persuade us. You can let your guard down and be more easily openminded when you know the person is actually indifferent to convincing you.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 7:05 PM
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55 is right. Its scope is very different but, I guess owing to the state of the world, the content isn't.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-21-21 7:13 PM
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Reading the covid death stories I keep thinking back to when my dad was dying of pneumonia and literally nobody involved (including my dad though he was in no way competent at that point) was willing to encourage the kind of aggressive breathing support you see described for so many covid cases. I don't think the people getting the intubation and such are as old as my dad, but it seems like they often have no realistic chance of recovery.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 7:33 AM
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I'm not calling for death panels. Just wondering if the families still aren't thinking covid isn't really deadly so they keep trying.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 7:51 AM
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Anyway, I trust science and like 60% of doctors. I don't get the people who don't trust the medical establishment on vaccination but do implicitly trust them for far more aggressive treatments that leave your relative completely under a doctor's control for weeks and months.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 8:59 AM
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Not getting vaccinated and then staying home to take horse-deworming paste is at least consistent.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 9:12 AM
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Plus, I hear it tastes like apples.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 9:25 AM
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60: I like maybe 40% of doctors. I trust them on vaccination, less on some other stuff.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 9:47 AM
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I have to decide if I trust them enough to let them butt-cam me this year.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 10:04 AM
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64: Where a I am, they've stopped doing covid tests on colonoscopy patients, because it is not considered an "aerosolizing procedure."

I just went to a meeting where they were talking about opening up upper respiratory infection patients to regular primary care as opposed to dedicated clinics. They plan on using a single room for them, but the precautions are all around extra cleansing between patients per Infection Control. All the patients in that room who are going to be tested will have their mask off and breath out a bunch of aerosols. That doesn't feel safe to me as a patient, particularly if I'm sick enough to need to go to a doctor.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 10:25 AM
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Moby Hick, if you scroll through enough Herman Cain Awardees, you will find a few whose relatives frantically tried to get them out of hospital ICUs so they could be dosed with ivermectin. I wish I were kidding.


Posted by: SR | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 2:14 PM
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Unfortunately, Flynn is on to the put-the-vaccine-in-salad-dressing caper. The Libs just can't put anything over on these guys.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 2:18 PM
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66: I've seen those too. I'm not surprised the hospital won't do that. I'm surprised you don't see many cases where they refuse intubation.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 2:26 PM
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Our governor just activated crisis standards of care statewide. Not really a surprise as we currently have the highest per-capita rate of new cases in the country and it keeps going up each day.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 3:06 PM
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The Chinese word for "crisis" is written by combining the symbols for "opportunity" and "horse de-worming medication."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 4:26 PM
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I just learned 67 isn't a clever parody.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-22-21 4:42 PM
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