Re: Check Ins, Reassurances, and Concerns, 12/9

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Booster appointment made! The appointment is in about 20 minutes at the clinic downstairs from my office. I went to check a few minutes ago to check if there were slots available and there were a couple today, so I went for it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 10:38 AM
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Booster done! I got a flu shot too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:05 AM
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I'm still feeling like shit from my shingles shot.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:13 AM
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Setting aside anti-vaxxers, the sane world seems to be divided into those whose clinics happily give Covid boosters and flu shots together and those whose clinics insist on a delay between them. Any idea what that's all about?

Anyway, congrats to Teo for getting it all out of the way.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:15 AM
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It's a kink thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:17 AM
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Thanks! I don't think I've seen a clinic that insists on a delay. They do typically give them in opposite arms so that if there is an unusual reaction at the site they can tell which shot it's from.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:17 AM
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Still here. The kid has had cold-like symptoms off and on for the past two or three days, but her second covid shot was about 11 days ago. (So, she's not fully vaccinated for another 3 days if I remember correctly, but very close.) We've discussed this with the school nurse and she's comfortable treating this like normal sick days rather than covid sick days, which sounds good to us.

Work has been crazy lately. It has most directly been a problem for another guy on my team, but a little bit directly for me as well, and anyways I'm nominally the team lead so his problems are indirectly mine too. Let me sum it up with a line I had reason to say in our Teams chat this morning: "they originally said they wanted it by 12/15 or 12/17. If they really needed it by 12/10, they should have told us before 11 PM on 12/7."


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:31 AM
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Just to be clear, we've been working on the set of tasks discussed in 7 since early November. So the difference between the 15th and the 10th isn't a huge fraction of that, but on the other hand finding out this week is very late indeed. And I got the date wrong. They actually told us they needed it by December 10 on December 8, not 7.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:48 AM
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RWM got a triple shot, covid, flu, and DPT all at one appointment.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:51 AM
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I count 8 shots there.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 11:54 AM
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8: They didn't tell you at 11 PM on the 9th? Amateurs.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 12:04 PM
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I know what you're thinking. "Were there eight shots, or only three?"

Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?"

Well, do ya, punk?


Posted by: OPINIONATED DIRTY HARRY | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 1:17 PM
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S&W .44 Magnum is a six shot revolver, not eight. So yeah, I feel lucky, punk.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 1:40 PM
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If it has to be 3 or 8 and it can't be 8, it's 3. You should not feel lucky. There's three bullets in the gun.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 1:51 PM
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I just found out that yet another person from my grad program has cancer. That makes at least six of us that I know of. That's high, right?


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 2:27 PM
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I went to Miami. The trip was not a good idea. Basically it consisted of attending a bunch of superspreader events, one after the other. No one was masked, no one was distanced, and everyone breathed directly into my mouth while touching their eyes and my hands.

Predictably, I am now sick. I took two Binax tests and they were both negative. I also got a PCR test but they told me I might not get my results for 3 to 5 (!!!) days. Wtf. It feels like it's just a cold, but it's my first illness since spring 2020. Mostly I feel filthy. I should never be allowed to leave the house again.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 2:48 PM
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15: Yes. You should call someone if you can figure out who. That's horrific.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:01 PM
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15 and 16 are both awful!


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:04 PM
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15. Wow. That is terrible and alarming. Six people out of those with whom you attended? How many students were in the program altogether?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:09 PM
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We all graduated within 10 years of one another, I think, and only one person was over 40 when diagnosed. I need to figure out who investigates cancer clusters. Until this recent case, I genuinely thought it was just a coincidence (also, I didn't know about a case of brain cancer that postdated my attendance).


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:09 PM
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My guess is that this is out of roughly 80-100 or so grad students overall during that time period.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:12 PM
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20. That's terrible. This is the resource I know about, do not know how well it deals with relocation: https://gis.cancer.gov/canceratlas/


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:20 PM
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22: Thanks!


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 3:30 PM
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Definitely feeling the effects of the booster now. Mostly chills and aches, maybe a slight fever. When I got the second shot I called in sick to work the next two days; this feels pretty similar so far.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 9-21 10:21 PM
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20: That's sad. I do know that most apparent clusters appear (currently) to be random. The stat I'm seeing is that 72/576 investigations showed actual higher incidence than expected. I'm not sure I have a good sense for how common cancer is in a given age cohort (much less over a fairly long time interval) as opposed to lifetime risk.

CDC and NCI say it's state health departments who take reports and investigate.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/substances/cancer-clusters-fact-sheet#what-is-a-cancer-cluster
https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/clusters/default.htm


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 4:42 AM
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24: Feel better soon. The folks running our clinics kept enthusiastically telling us to hydrate. I was wondering how much that helps vs how much it just provides a distraction and some sense of agency.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 4:44 AM
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24: I was lucky enough to just need a lot of sleep this time with 50 mcg Moderna after 30 mcg Pfizer x 2.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 7:13 AM
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Went to a friend's house party and felt like I'd gotten hit by a truck. Had a lie down by still feel like shit


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 7:33 AM
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By s/b But


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25: Thanks!


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 8:06 AM
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Holy crap, the Supreme Court seems to have in effect upheld the Texas anti-abortion bounty law.

Does this mean that California, Maryland, etc., are free to enact laws putting a $10,000 (or more) bounty on the head of anyone owning an assault rifle (or any gun at all)?

Or a bounty on the head of anyone who makes a campaign contribution to a Republican?

The possibilities for attacking the exercise of other constitutional rights seem endless. And the abdication of federal power, and the potential for conflict between states, makes this seem like a step towards disintegration or civil war.


Posted by: Yeet the Rich | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 11:47 AM
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There's no reason to think this will be at all applied evenly.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 11:49 AM
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I got a Moderna booster over Pfiser; I was a bit tired and slightly feverish that night, and desperately needed a few extra hours of sleep the next morning, but was then basically over it.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 12:08 PM
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32: OK, that's ultimately true, but because on its face this is a decision about what kinds of state officials can and can't be sued, and not a decision about abortion rights, it will be difficult for the Court to justify and explain ruling the other way when the exact same kind of bounty system gets used to undermine a different right.

So there are really three reasons why I want a blue state to enact a Texas-style bounty law against assault rifles as soon as possible: (1) because fuck assault rifle owners; (2) to make the five Justices who upheld the Texas law squirm; and (3) to ultimately get the Court to rule that these bounty laws are not OK, because they are harmful to the rule of law no matter which constitutional right is under attack.


Posted by: Yeet the Rich | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 12:14 PM
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California should make a Texas-style bounty law outlawing the phrase, "Merry Christmas!".


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 2:18 PM
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33: Tim was scheduled for a a Moderna over Moderna x2 for next week, but I was able to find a Pfizer appointment for tomorrow, so that's what he is going to get instead. I'd rather he be boosted before we go to the car dealer to get ny winter tires put on. Too many cases here right now.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 5:26 PM
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Honestly, all season radials are fine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 5:39 PM
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Feeling a lot better today! I did take off work though, which was a good call.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 6:02 PM
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37: I think a Pfizer booster is too. His work is masked, but some people are more careful,than others, and I'd feel more comfortable if he were boosted.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 6:16 PM
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It's never snowed enough here that I wanted two sets of tires. But tomorrow I set an alarm to get boosted. I'm trying walk-in places.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 6:49 PM
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Is there some rule about not getting drunk the night before a booster?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 7:12 PM
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41: Not in Canada, for what it's worth.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 7:40 PM
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Only that it might be helpful to know, post-booster, if you're miserable because of the booster or because of being hung over. But absent managing your personal misery, I don't know of any reason.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 7:58 PM
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Nobody wants to be sober in Canada. My thought was that I should drink tonight because I don't want to be hung over tomorrow.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 8:00 PM
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37: that's what everyone stuck in the snow going up the mountain today thought about all season radials, too.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 8:05 PM
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I don't even see mountains.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 8:08 PM
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My thought was that I should drink tonight because I don't want to be hung over tomorrow.

This sort of reminds me of my hard-drinking aunt, who always maintained you could "drink yourself sober."


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 8:10 PM
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I don't even see mountains.

Dissected plateau.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-10-21 10:25 PM
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My work here is done.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 5:19 AM
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I got boostered. But it was Pfizer again because Moderna is the rules girl of vaccines. I should have asked last week for a date this week.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 8:08 AM
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I lied to the tech because she said I couldn't get the covid vaccine if I'd gotten the shingles vaccine in the past 7 days.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 10:38 AM
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51: not true, bu5 pharmacies are strict about rules. I probably would do flu and Covid at the same time but since Shingrix can be pretty reactogenic, I'd probably not do the Covid the same day.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 11:36 AM
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I wish I would have not gotten the shingles shot this week. The doctor said the side effects of the first one weren't bad. They weren't horrible, but I had a week and could have used not having the side effects.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 11:38 AM
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I'm looking into buying a reasonably priced eadmill. Does anybody have a website they trust for reviews of fitness equipment?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 1:47 PM
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A what?


Posted by: Opinionated Ead | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 2:01 PM
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Treadmill


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 2:03 PM
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This isn't the first time someone has tried to crush me into a fine powder.


Posted by: Opinionated Ead | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 2:12 PM
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54: We have some killer deals in the works!


Posted by: Opinionated Peloton Sales Rep. | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 2:29 PM
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I would be in the market for a stationary bicycle, but only a cheap one. The old one works, but it clanks which makes me think it isn't going to work for long and also means I can't ride it unless everyone else is gone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 3:03 PM
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58: it would have to be really cheap for me to do that.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-11-21 4:47 PM
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Had my booster and then drove 300 miles north to the new house. All well except for Internet being a bit primitive...


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 2:40 AM
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Just in time to catch the best parts of the winter up north!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 5:07 AM
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True, but we have winter tyres so we are prepared. And it is rather good to be able to step out the door and into a forest rather than into the bloodspattered streets of north London


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 6:02 AM
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It probably doesn't take long to spatter a forest with blood.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 7:02 AM
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Especially the British kind without many trees.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 7:09 AM
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The Calabat has the flu. Like, actual flu A with a test result and apparently a Tamiflu prescription. He had his flu shot! This is not fair. Mostly okay but a high fever and...uh, how fast does this normally run in kids? Neither of us have ever had the flu badly enough to get tested.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 7:50 AM
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The flu is going around here too. I have no idea how long it takes to clear a kid though. When I was a kid, everything was flu.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 8:30 AM
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much sympathy to the ailing calabat! my memorable, really shockingly bad bout with the flu in my twenties lasted around 5 days for the worst ( v high fever, had to crawl to refill water bottle for a few of those days as boyfriend also just as ill, we took tuens making the excruciating perilous journey), there were about 48 hours of real scariness. v glad your calabat has you & possibly an effective treatment!

bostonienne - i once again, probably annoyingly!, urge you to take up a physical activity based solely on the fun factor. you're faaaaar more likely to actually do it if it is fun for you. now maybe a treadmill would call irresistibly to you, but ...


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:05 AM
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I have a little stand, so my mountain bike is set up in the basement. It's not really fun enough, so I haven't ridden much, and the effects of that were really obvious when I went XCing yesterday. I'm not sure I've ever been so out of breath. I did complete the loop, and my friends were nice about waiting for me at intervals, but I've got some real work to do.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:14 AM
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37 & 33: Moby, you believe actual Bostonians who drive in actual Boston. "All-season radials" don't include Boston winters: it's in the fine print of the tire description.

Of course, AGW is slowly moving Boston winters into something more akin to NJ winters...


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:46 AM
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I just ordered a reconditioned smart trainer for my bike, as i'm getting beaten up riding London streets in the cold, dark and rain. I did it most of last winter, and I'm mostly OK with riding in bad weather, but I'm only able to get out late in the evening these days, so instead of doing a loop of Richmond Park at lunch time, or Bushy Park at dusk, I'm dragging myself around on shitty potholed traffic congested streets.

Hopefully it should arrive some time this week, and hopefully, it's concealable enough* to not annoy my wife. It's almost certainly the most expensive "Christmas present" I've ever had.

* as in, I can pop the bike off the trainer, fold the trainer up, and put it into a cupboard when I'm not using it.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:46 AM
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"you should believe"...

sigh.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:47 AM
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70, 72: Ack! I stupidly took Norton's and Google's advice to clear out my cookies and suddenly the whole internet says "who dat?" when I try to log in anywhere.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:49 AM
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charley got to meet her in person, for the rest of you reprobates here is the new italian in my life 😍😍😍 https://www.instagram.com/p/CXFNuwBPNZm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

if i lived in the ne u s. i would find the challenge of ice skating too powerful of a lure to resist but i really do believe you've got to find the thing(s) you actually enjoy & then go at 'em.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:54 AM
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66: my son cleared the flu shockingly fast after getting tamiflu -- like less than 48 hours.


Posted by: Sand | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 10:45 AM
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Fingers crossed, Cala. What crappy luck.

Nice bike, dq. If you ever want to go skating with a friend on the local artificial ice, hmu...

I took my kid's a challenge and ran a top-speed lap around the track at a nearby university yesterday, then spent about 20 minutes wondering if I was going to die. This is by far the worst physical shape I've ever been in and I should probably avoid doing "exercise!!" in the stupidest way possible; however, after the stomach cramps abated I felt pretty great (and yes, it was satisfying to have done it more than 30 seconds faster than the ten-year-old, for probably the last time in our respective lives).


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:28 AM
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66: I hope they'll develop at-home rapid flu tests.

67: Nobody cared then, because it didn't affect clinical recommendations.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:34 AM
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I want a smart trainer but can't quite justify it over the dumb trainer/sensor model that I have which is just fine for Zwift. dq, that is a sweet bike!

Tamiflu dose #1 obtained and consumed, and I'm sure it's mostly just the Tylenol/Motrin finally kicking in or a usually ebb/flow of an illness but it sure looks like a miracle drug, as he's now not feverish (though medicated) and is back to fighting with his sister instead of laying on me. I shouldn't laugh but the best prediction of his temperature is how much he's talking. Kid goes quiet = dose is wearing off.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:38 AM
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68: I put in layers and go for walks every day now outside, and I enjoy them. I also want to put 10-15 minute walks into my day now that I am working from home. I like to go for 15 minute walk after dinner, which helps my digestion and prevents the post meal slump. When it's frigidly cold or perilous wintry mix, I get lazy about the evening walks.

I can walk on a treadmill after dinner and listen to a podcast rather than slumping on the couch.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:41 AM
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You could buy a couch that support ergonomic sitting.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:42 AM
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70.1 is probably right. Pittsburgh has hills but the winters are mostly just cold rain. Nebraska had really cold winters, but no hills so I never had trouble if I had a front-wheel drive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:46 AM
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We haven't had snow that I had to shovel (as opposed to sweep) more than maybe three times in the past five years.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 11:50 AM
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lk - ha! i have realized over the last two years that a large part of the fun of various sporty endeavors for me is a challenge (biking up steeper hills, swimming in rougher/colder water, etc.) and i know absolutely shit all about ice skating. also i get on best with doing things outside, it is enormously comforting and calming to me to be outside moving about. hence the attraction of ice skating if i lived in a place where plausibly i could skate outdoors, locally, during the winter. but at the moment i am perfectly ice skate skill-less!

am delighted to hear the bat is better, cala - when they go all limp and silent is very much not good.

bostonienne, sorry to be a pain i understand your reasoning. i suppose i cannot get away from the workhouse treadmill as explicit punishment thing. also a dear colleague did significant damage to his shoulder from one of them, so caution advised!

as for me sweet italian playmate, she is so much fun but not particularly practical lol so am enjoying her while more practical and extremely fun-beautiful bike is being designed and built. and then i have to figure out how to justify keeping both ...

if anyone has thoughts re: specific clip on mudguards i'm all ears!


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 1:16 PM
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Clip-on looks too Olive Garden-waiter. Use a double Windsor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 1:41 PM
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I forced myself to go out and do 20 miles on the bike today, even though I was hungover. Hit my highest sustained 1 minute max heart rate climbing a pretty steep hill. Which is good, in one sense, as I was able to put out more power for longer, but bad in another sense, because it feels _really_ unpleasant to max out for a minute or more, and I'll probably dial it back next time, even if that means taking it slower or even getting off and walking.

re: 83

It's a lovely looking bike, but personally, I can't deal with down tube shifters any more. I do really like steel frames, though. Aesthetically, and for riding. Some scumbag stole my steel framed bike, though.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 1:44 PM
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Debunking aside, it's hard to see someone trying to take out DuBois and not jump immediately to the "Dunning-Kruger School" joke.
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Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 1:59 PM
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So, are Tieks really worth that much? (Mainly asking dq).


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 2:12 PM
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85: i'm finding the shifters totally fine, surprisingly. but i am a getting-around-places rider, i'm not serious like you are. it's just that in sf just getting around places includes a certain amount of gain-loss of elevation so it ends up being a decent work out. the main thing though is fun fun fun. agree that steel is awesome for looks and comfort.

was just chatting with someone at the club yesterday post swim and we agreed that bike theft is really a dick move crime. sure take up a life of crime, but ripping off bikes? you're a dick.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 3:16 PM
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also am discovering that water temp sub-55 f is when i can't drink the night before a swim - not a glass of wine, not a beer, not a small cocktail. just feel the cold more when in the water and then woozy when rewarming, super unpleasant and not very safe for the bike ride home. ah age, thanks a lot passing of time.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 3:20 PM
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66,75 - son#2 caught the flu last week and was over the bad part in 2 days. Not Tamiflu but a different antiviral Flusomethingax? As usual, going to be dragging for a few days after the acute phase but over it surprisingly quickly. Only one in the family not fluvaxed. The nurse said she hadn't seen a single flu case in a vaxed person yet this year - maybe the formulation is good this year.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 4:04 PM
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Skating outside is so great. My favorite all-times are a Lost Lake in Glacier NP and the C&O Canal. That the SFBA never presents reasonable opportunities is in itself, imo, reason not to live there.

I say that, but haven't owned skates for several years. I should get some . . .


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 4:35 PM
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ah but the year round swimming charley!


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 5:18 PM
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83, 85: I like biking in part because I can set challenges without breaking myself ala running. 30 miles to climb 4500 feet! Awesome!! I have a cheap workhorse of a steel bike and a fancy but old carbon road bike but pretty steel bikes are just so elegant. I've been a little lazy this season (more mountain biking than road biking, more cookies) but while I'm a little slower than last year I'm not being punished for being out of shape yet. FatCala could probably put out more power so this is likely to be a problem unless I recover a sense of discipline/eat vegetables.

75, 90: Thanks. We were surprised, as the doc did the test mostly as a precaution, because he had the fluvax in September and the 2nd COVID vax last week, and "RSV lasts about 24 hours in a healthy eight-year-old so it's not really a worry", and then, oop, flu.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 5:22 PM
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Geeblets all stayed negative for Covid this past week, so it seems we successfully weathered our exposure.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 7:55 PM
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I dearly love my smart trainer. Didn't get into Zwift, but really enjoy Fulgaz.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 8:05 PM
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The real covid was the friends you met along the way.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 8:07 PM
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Now that Anne Rice has died, the world's leading teller of vampire stories is that Twilight lady.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 8:37 PM
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Or the Underworld guy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-21 9:09 PM
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'Salem's Lot is a vampire story, isn't it? Or am I just showing my anti-sparkliness?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 4:43 AM
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34: Looks like you're getting your wish.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 4:50 AM
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100: I can't hep but think that's not actually a good idea.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 5:21 AM
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94. Good news! Exposure was presumably pre-Omicron, which is apparently far more infectious, so keep safe. (The NHS has apparently run out of lateral flow tests; these are the times we live in.)


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 6:47 AM
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I assumed those tests were only for people with really funny nostrils.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 7:17 AM
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101: I agree and even if it's in a good cause the mirror image "owning the conservatives" is a bad look. I like what I heard Al Franken propose: Just pass a law, same text as S.B.8, except that anyone can now sue for defamation or criticism of the governor in any medium (except, of course, eclectic web magazines). 1st amendment instead of second amendment. IANAL but it seems sound to me.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 7:33 AM
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104: I'd support mirroring the language of S.B.8 more exactly, if that's a major problem with Newsom's suggestion. I wouldn't support actually going after the freedom of the press like I would the right to bear arms. Maybe something about how the current interpretation of the 4th or 6th lets the government get away with too much?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 7:47 AM
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Yes. 104 is a really bad idea. Guns is a better target.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 7:54 AM
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Its important to go after something conservatives hold dear. They don't actually care about freedom of speech. Guns is the way to go.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 12-13-21 8:12 AM
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