Re: Gray and unintelligible

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I have 'We don't talk about Bruno" in my head and I never even watched it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:06 AM
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It's amazingly catchy. I had to resist all sorts of no-no-no puns in the OP, and we only made it 1 comment into the thread.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:07 AM
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I don't even know who he is, so the policy obviously worked.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:22 AM
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The last movie I watched was the Spiderman with all the spoiler alerts.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:24 AM
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Can I just take this post down and save it for Wednesday? That seems less unethical than failing to treat unvaxxed covid patients.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:42 AM
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I'll remember what I said. Sure.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-22 7:46 AM
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You don't have to!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 7:24 AM
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Thanks. I'd forgotten.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 7:30 AM
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I have a good answer to 1. Words don't matter.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:34 AM
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Thanks but I'm still using them.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:37 AM
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Wait. That was OP1? You can really tell how much more words mattered in the past by watching old movies. Those people could talk.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:38 AM
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11: That's right. Words used to matter.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:43 AM
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That's because the dinosaurs were just a guy in a rubber suit.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:47 AM
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Both problems seem to be a consequence of misused digital editing tools, recent work that doesn't use these excessively seems less subject to this. Implicit in both discusions is "everyone's working too fast to pay attention to outcome." Not surprising given the volume of work now being made in the US, I fear that it can't last. Scripted and preplanned work competes for revenue with reality and contest programming.

Another Round was pretty bright. Recent CZ films aren't like this either, and have for the most part intelligible dialog. Babylon Berlin used tons of effects, both seasons. So did Snowpiercer. Color palette contrasts between locations was a successful part of the mise-en-scene in Oscar-winning Parasite. Also Lala Land. I haven't seen many of the superhero films and don't know who Tom Hardy is. Maybe the writers are watching too many bad films made by the same studios?

I am really liking Lovecraft Country-- lots of flaws, but incredibly creative, bursts of truly inspired filmmaking. Murky color and sound in spots-- one actor's line delivery is quiet, and yes hella CGI.
Paprika was something else new-ish that I thought was quite good.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 9:03 AM
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The book Lovecraft Country is very good, too.

https://www.thefrumiousconsortium.net/2018/12/09/lovecraft-country-by-matt-ruff-2/


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 9:24 AM
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I guess I should try some South Korean movies. I'm just not emotionally in a place where I'd easily tolerate the whole cannibalism stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 9:46 AM
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One film where the director made a creative choice that bugged me as a technical intrusion was No Sudden Move, well-done neonoir from Soderbergh that I liked overall, but was filmed with an anamorphic lens (those things are miracles of optical design) attached to a Red Monstro digital camera, optics appreciators check them out).
Related work from the Quay brothers:
https://vimeo.com/14009486


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 9:46 AM
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The Good, The Bad, The Weird, excellent Korean western action comedy. Or New World , stars Minsik Choi who was the main actor in Oldboy. Oldboy is kind of its own thing, not for kids at all.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 9:53 AM
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You can tell Encanto is a pandemic-times movie because the characters mostly never leave their house.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 10:01 AM
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Same with Home Alone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 10:04 AM
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Only Murders in the Building was a good pandemic series. Just three stars and then grab whoever is around.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 10:35 AM
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Anyway, my big complaint is everything is reboots, sequels, comic books, or a combination. I would like a nice comedy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 11:49 AM
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Gray and unintelligible

Stop mocking me, heebie.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 11:52 AM
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Did you ever even tell us what the previous epidemic in which unsympathetic people were often denied medical care is?!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 12:52 PM
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24:. No. I'm too busy basking in your ignorance, and my self-righteousness.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 1:17 PM
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I assume it was AIDS. Which I mentioned!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 1:26 PM
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I loved Only Murders in the Building so much that I'm thinking about rewatching it again even though it's only been a couple weeks since the first time. Such a pure delight.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 1:37 PM
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26: Damn! You ruined my basking in your ignorance!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 1:44 PM
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Nathan Lane rules.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 1:50 PM
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I was guessing that, but I was hemming and hawing over the POV for unsympathetic.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 2:01 PM
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Ronald Reagan?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 2:14 PM
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30: Are you serious? I was sure you all knew and were just playing.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 2:33 PM
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I can be dense if I want, you're not the boss of me.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 3:38 PM
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The dumb thread wondered was confused about which thread was her.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 6:37 PM
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33: Coincidentally, that is the exact language proposed for the 2024 Republican platform.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 7:36 PM
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The color dimming article is really interesting. My sister recently started working in VFX for one of the prominently featured brands mentioned in the article, and her husband is in the same field (she's more tech-y and he's more art-y). She had some interesting things to say at Christmas about a sea change to insourcing at her employer. She wasn't sure but suspected it was to have better control over the product and to be able to reuse certain work products across various releases, which seems consistent with the theory that flattening colors allows for more fully automated color correction and processing. When she started, one of her specialties was stuff like they mention in color correction - fixing lighting shifts due to movement of the sun. Her other specialty was manually removing green screen pixels the automated processing didn't process correctly.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 7:44 PM
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If you are into color theory I found this thing on "grey zones" in CSS gradients interesting.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:19 PM
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I think 37 is what gave me trouble on I Love Hue.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-22 8:24 PM
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At least they stopped making literally everything teal and orange: http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 4:12 AM
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Also can I bother you with my crank theory that the prominence of implausibly red-faced politicians in the UK is a colour-grading artefact, possibly to do with how Twitter transcodes video you upload into it?


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 4:22 AM
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My face turned red so easily when I was young. Four beers and I was bright red.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 5:16 AM
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14: I asked someone I know who's a film editor, and his sense was that a lot of it has to do with the fact that movies are mixed for 7.1 Dolby which is not a setup that almost anyone's home has; you can do remixes for 5.1 (home surround sound) and normal stereo, but that's an additional expense that doesn't generally happen for most movies when they hit streaming.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 6:08 AM
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The Good The Bad and the Weird is great. If you want to see the South Korean Taken, look for The Man from Nowhere.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 6:11 AM
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I haven't seen the American (Irish?) Taken.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 6:16 AM
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I have a very special set of skills that let me sit on the couch and watch only things I've already watched eight times.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 6:30 AM
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42: Did you read OP1? It includes the "home theater mix" element but makes it pretty clear that's only one of many factors; they also discuss factors that make movies sound worse in actual theaters.

Also because of data capacities of DVD vs. streaming, streaming requires yet another mix from home theater, often not bothered with.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 8:37 AM
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39: This really highlights the problem with discernment and education. I'm going to have to work hard to forget I ever saw that, because otherwise I'm going to start noticing it in movies and will be annoyed by films I otherwise would have liked. You smart people chronically undervalue ignorance.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-13-22 9:07 AM
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