Do Wordle words ever have more than one of the same letter? For example, "apple" or "reset"? I've tried the game a few times but haven't solved one yet.

I assumed not? You're allowed to submit those, though, to establish a location.

Do I have to figure out what a Wordle is?

I take back 2. I guess that's a mild spoiler for today.

3: It's literally just Mastermind with 5 letter words.

I guess it's not quite Mastermind, IIRC? In mastermind, you're just told that there exists a certain number of pegs that are correct in color, and that are correct in color and position, and you don't know which ones. Here it tells you which letters are correct, and which are in the correct position. But you get fewer tries.

Heh, just got it before seeing the spoiler, I swear.

6: You get fewer tries, and you can't guess entirely at random, you have to use real words. Mastermind seems easier than this. Maybe my opinion will changes after I solve more than one, though.

Jammies was trying out his first game last night, and he was like, "I literally can't think of a five letter word," which was both hilarious and also kind of relatable, although he's worst at it than I am.

Do I have to figure out what Mastermind is?

You have to guess what Mastermind is. I'll tell you how many of your words are correct, and how many of them are in the correct order, but you'll have to trial and error your way to a correct explanation.

If you're frustrated by only getting to play once a day, you can play Absurdle as much as you like. https://qntm.org/files/wordle/index.html

That is EXACTLY what I was hoping for!!

12 is rather interesting - it seems to completely eliminate the possibility of a lucky guess. I normally get Wordle in 4 goes but I've just tried Absurdle a few times and never got it in less than 8.

Yeah, the More Info page for Absurdle suggests that the optimal solution may be 4 words. But you definitely can't get it in one, as it is much less of a guessing game and more of a narrowing-down strategy game.

Interesting. So you want to start off with all your weird letters? Or still start off with something like "Heart"?

I managed to get 5 in absurdle, but it took some effort (maybe 30 minutes?). I'm not going to try to get 4.

And if you play an identical list, it will turn out identically every time.

Normal wordle with no limit per day:
https://octokatherine.github.io/word-master/

Version where you can choose to play 4 to 11 letter words:
http://foldr.moe/hello-wordl/

Adversarial noted above:
https://qntm.org/files/wordle/index.html

There was one that was just four letter swears but I couldn't find the link again.

Wordle is run entirely on the client side so it sends you the whole 2315 word list and chooses today's word based on a difference since day x algorithm. So you can actually look at the source code and figure out the word for any given date:
https://reichel.dev/blog/reverse-engineering-wordle.html

FWIW, Metalachi is not a joke.

Hey, I won.

You just type "STEAM" and go from there?

So, the US Supreme Court decided a case today, which is OT because it's Thursday.

Guy worked as a civilian for the Michigan National Guard, and was also a member of the national guard, and when he retired, he got separate pensions for his civilian service and his military service. When he applied for Social Security, they deducted for the civilian service pension but not for the military service pension, because that's what the statute says to do. Deduction was 100/mo. He complained, claiming that his civilian service should have counted as military service, and thus not deducted. Lost before an ALJ, lost on administrative appeal, lost in district court, lost in the 6th Circuit. And now lost in the Supreme Court.

I can't help but be impressed by the guy's persistence. I hope he paid his lawyers.

23: All for what couldn't be more than $48,000 (40 years of that pension), or with discounting at 2%, $33,000 present value? Yeah, persistent.

sweardle is the game SP forgot. It's also very American -
took me ages to work out "butt".

23: It reminds me of those legal cases in France before the revolution that would be carried over lifetimes.

re: music

I really like both the recent Wet Leg singles, and I also love the videos. The whole Jane Austen / Amish thing and the deadpan humour/lobster hands, etc..

Wet Dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpgJjdk52c

Chaise Longue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9jeJk2UHQ

Agree with the OP on the the trumpet.

Wordle is great. We have a daily Wordle Slack thread at work and it's fun because
1) one per day means no demands on your willpower
2) your results are easily and cleverly shareable
3) the shared results tell a story for each person
4) each round is juuust hard enough

I tried Slack but failed to figure it out and now I make people text me.

If they complain, I point out that it doesn't cost ten cents anymore.

I agree with 29.1. Knowing there is only one a day let's me know it can't turn into a total time suck.

It's important to leave time for Pokémon Go.

25- Disagree. Fucking piece of shit gave me "shag". I of course guessed fuck then shit and was thinking what other goddamn swear word starts with sh? First time I played it gave me "damn".

Also agree with 29.1. It's a small good thing.

Had a hard time with today's.

Wordle 208 5/6

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Today's was the first I got a 3/6 (out of 13 plays so far)

Trying wordle (for the second time) I had a tough time with today's word.

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Wordle 208 6/6

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I suspect I'll rarely have much to brag about, but regardless, cool feature.

In my head I can only pronounce the name Metalachi as though he's one of the minor prophets.

Is the quiet thing about Wordle that results can be disseminated via emoji?

A prophet is a prophet. You can get snooty when you have a chapter in the Bible.

Huh. Metalachi will be playing a few blocks from my house on Saturday.

It is past my bedtime though.

It was exciting to contemplate going out for a few minutes.

I bet if you asked nicely, your parents would allow it. Not a school night.

Maybe just open your windows? Maybe the trumpet will carry.

Maybe the trumpet will carry you home.

Trying to think of words that fit a _ _ e _ n (no b or c ) or whatever is like trying to walk on a slackline for me, requires weird concentration and memory muscles that I don't normally use and have a hard time with. Weird to enter into an imposed mind state that way.

And now the Supreme Court has decided a couple of pending motions -- granting (5-4) the government's motion to stay the order preventing the vax mandate for people in facilities funded by Medicare and Medicaid, and granting (6-3) the motions to stay the OSHA vax mandate. Roberts and Kav were in both majorities.

It's about whether Congress gave the agencies the power to do this, and those two saw it in the one case and not in the other.

Oops, already in the other thread.

49: When are they just going to find a way to completely dismantle the entire regulatory state, including OSHA?

When Trump, in his second administration, replaces Roberts.

Wordle 209 6/6

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That was frustrating.

I was proud of this one. Used LOGIC and REASON.

Wordle 209 4/6

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Someone I follow says you should treat it like a par 4 in golf.
2- rare but possible
3- luck and skill
4- solid effort
5- disappointing but reasonable
6- made it but feels bad
7+- give up

I retract 35. I hate it now.

It's a small thing that's easy to ruin for others.

My problem is that I started with something like 3,4,4,3 and assumed it would always be that way. Not so much it turns out.

And worse my wife and kids now doing it and more generally more careful. Now a "feature" of our group text thread.

I have determined that a bi t of alertness helps. Last two nights I have awoken with insomnia and thought "I'll do the Wordle!" In both cases did a guess using a letter in ta place that had been ruled out.

Absurdle lends itself to all sorts of invented variations. Like "Disparition Absurdle" in which you are only allowed to use the letter E once, when you guess the correct answer. (If you use E in a guess and don't get five greens, you lose.)

Absurdle lends itself to all sorts of invented variations. Like "Disparition Absurdle" in which you are only allowed to use the letter E once, when you guess the correct answer. (If you use E in a guess and don't get five greens, you lose.)

That's Wordwang!

Dunno if someone covered it earlier, but you can get a target word with repeated letters. You also don't have to reuse letters you've figured out, unless (I think) you are in "hard" mode.

I'm disappointed how easy it is to cheat, at least at the https://octokatherine.github.io/word-master/ version. You can just close and reopen or refresh the window to get a fresh puzzle without hurting your streak.

I'm putting so much time into this partly because I stopped playing World of Warcraft. AIMB, I played the game a lot. I stopped this week. Partly due to running out of interesting things to do in the game, partly due to ethical concerns about this. (That seems like an adequate reason by itself for a principled person to stop supporting the company but I had to admit I had to have less fun first as well.) I've put a little more time into writing, a little more time into reading, a little more time into real life, and a lot more time into this and 2048. It remains to be seen what my routine will look like in a month or two.

Halford shamed me into getting better at 2048.

She thinks it's a glitch in the game but my wife got a word in 1. I suppose with hundreds of millions of people playing someone has to guess the word on the first try. Might have been her first game over all, I'm not clear on that.

65:. I don't want to say anything about your wife, but if that was my wife, I would suspect she was cheating

Wordle 209 3/6

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I couldn't figure it out this morning, but it came to me now.

I didn't cheat and start over. I was just trying different things for line 3 because I was unable to find any word that fit the above.

Wordle 210 2/6

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The word of the day is one always close to the front of my mind.

Wordle 210 4/6

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Took me longer.

Can't post the results now but I got it in 5 tries. I'm tempted to feel bad about not getting it in four, but still, progress.

69:. Your hint helped me get it in three.

Chill's wife gave me the idea that I could cheat, and post on Twitter day after day my results showing that I got it one try, and then I could become a world famous psychic, but then it occurred to me that this was very stupid.

1. Solve it on your phone in the usual 5 or 6 tries.

2. Go to your computer and solve it in one try.

3. ???

4. Profit!

In a bit, it will occur to you that something being stupid isn't a sufficient reason not to do it.

74: That was my plan, except in reverse. Solve it in normal way on computer, solve it one try on phone, and then post results on Twitter. Gradually more and more people would notice that I was getting it in one try every time. Then they would pay me lots of money to tell them where they would meet their spouse or whether they should take a job.

I have no interest in Wordle (no hate for it, just not my bag) but I have discovered sokoban puzzles and am obsessed with them.

I note that Wordle is six letters long.

Now who's the genius?

Oh my god. 77 is amazing. Thanks a lot for monopolizing my MLK weekend.

Admittedly, level 3 had a bit of tediousness once I saw what to do.

There are a zillion variations, some just skins and some with added complications.

https://pixel-bubble.itch.io/scatterhoard

https://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban.html

I cant get past Level 1, perhaps not the game for me. I don't like to be reminded that I am not as clever as I think I am.

Your theory can explain that.

That's very clever.

Wordle 210 3/6*

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82: That's actually a relatively hard level 1. The 1st link in 81 is probably a better one to start with.

There's an ios app called Unblock Me that's a good free tile-moving puzzle game.

I usually get it on the fifth word. I have only one fourth word win. On the other hand I've gotten 5/6: missed one not knowing you can get two of a letter in the target.

Wordle 210 5/6

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80. I saw what to do in 3 and tediously did it until I pushed a block one move too far on the 2nd to last box. It needs an undo-last-move key.

63: Wordle of Warcraft, obvsly. I found 2048 meditative for a while. Eventually I got to 16384 and then essentially retired from the game. Now I use those idle brain cycles to play a java instantiation of a ridiculously old fantasy boardgame designed in part by Dave Trampier.

89: Yeah, frustrating. I should have posted a better example -- I wasn't really thinking about other people playing them, just showing what I was talking about. There are tons of variations written in puzzlescript that have undo buttons.

If anyone can figure out level 10 on this one, I would goggle in wonder (has undo button, lets you skip levels): https://game-game.com/177051

Another good one (no undo button): https://adgard.itch.io/slimoban

Wordle 210 4/6

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I finally got past level one of the crates pushing thing. I'm feeling better about myself.

The squirrel and acorns game was cool but I got sick of waiting around for the owl to fall asleep.

Did any of you see the Sokoban: The Movie? There is a very intense seen at the climax where the hero is stuck in a warehouse with a bunch of crates that have to be moved to very specific places in order for him to save his family.

I'm not even going to look up if that's a joke or real.

Wordle 210 4/6

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That sucked. I've found the closer I am with the first guess the worse I do because I get greedy and try to win in three instead of eliminating more letters.

Wordle 211 5/6

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Wordle 211 5/6

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I had two yellows and a green, maybe I should have tried harder to guess something using those letters instead of random guessing to eliminate more. Still, can't complain.

Wordle 211 4/6

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I'm also through level 7 of Sokoban.

This may have something to do with the outside temp being 3 degrees F.

Wordle 211 3/6

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Wordle 211 3/6*

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Been starting with "strep".

A little amoxicillin will take care of that.

Look at you, fancy word speller.

Browser knows all.

Another game could be reversle - knowing the answer try to figure out a person's guesses. For example, in 101, was your second guess "savor"?

105: Sorry! Maybe delete this?

We need to be careful not to "spoil" wordle. 101 already has a spoiler and 105 is worse.

Good thing no one reads Unfogged on Sunday!

Spoiler Alert:

Spiderman had all the old spidermans in it.

105: yes

Wordle 211 3/6

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We need to be careful not to "spoil" wordle. 101 already has a spoiler and 105 is worse.

Yes, 105 helped me.

Been starting with "strep".

What's the best theory for starting words? I've been trying to pick a set of two starting words that cover most of the vowels (and haven't decided if I prefer leaving out u or y from the first two), and that inclines me towards two vowels in the first word.*

stair?
stare?
laity?

*based on very little experience; I've now done 5 wordles.

Adieu.

I've been starting with heart or world.

Wordle 211 4/6

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Not claiming that I started with those in 115 though. Heavens no.

I always start with "STEAM" because schools say they focus on STEAM and that it is vital.

I was using "outer". On this one I used "piano". Is adieu the only 5-letter word with 4 vowels?

Audio.

Aiery, apparently. Alternative spelling of eyrie.

"'Aiery Potter, did you put your name in the goblet of fire?"

Audio.

I can't quite bring myself to start with adieu, but I like Audio better (even though the e is more common). Aiery also feels a little cheap, but seems very handy.

"Aaaaa" is the worst word to start with.

I've been starting with AERIE, thinking that a double E is a solid possibility.

I haven't figured out how double letters work yet.

Behind the green glass door there are bookcases but there are no libraries.

It's an Ikea?

Behind the green glass door you'll find Billy and Agunnaryd but not Poäng or Ingvar.

What's the best theory for starting words?

There was a long Hackernews thread about this a few days ago. Mostly aiming for common letters in common positions, but I would have liked to see someone look into whether some combinations more helpfully narrow subsequent guesses, but that's more complex. And I don't think people were dealing with "hard mode," which I think is more fun.

Behind the green glass door are rabbits but no hares.

They're nibbling, rather than eating, lettuce and carrots but no hay.

O.K. I figured it out. 128 is clever.

I think when we did that riddle in middle school it was called "Goonies like" but now that sounds vaguely racist so I had to look up what other people call it.

So, 91.3 is giving me trouble. I can't get past the bouncing blue jello.

Wordle 212 2/6*

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After 11 games my mean , median, and modal score are precisely 4. All in hard mode.

Wordle 212 2/6*

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After 11 games my mean , median, and modal score are precisely 4. All in hard mode.

Wordle 212 2/6*

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After 11 games my mean , median, and modal score are precisely 4. All in hard mode.

Wordle 212 4/6

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I thought I'd be first.

Also, you're either really lucky or a huge nerd.

Wordle 212 4/6*

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So much for my theory of the answer typically being the more obvious word.

Aaaaa is the worst word to start with.

I disagree, "Holding Out For A Hero" is s cracking song.

Also, I got today's one in 2.

Would have been 3 but I made a typo.

141- indeed.

Wordle 212 4/6

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Wordle 212 3/6

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Booyah.

Wordle 212 3/6

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My first 3 guess!

147: Same here. Not sure if it was luck or practice is helping. Or opening strategies. Upthread someone said "strep". I figure that followed by "chain" would give you three vowels, something like eight of the top 10 letters in English, some common combinations...

Eh, luck. That opening strategy wouldn't have gotten me to the past three or four words nearly so quickly.

Wordle 212 4/6

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"There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the reading of the blog. All competing topic will be destroyed. But always-- do not forget this-- always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Wordle guess grid stamping on a blog comment section-- forever. "

141: So much for my theory of the answer typically being the more obvious word.

My wife sort of used that principle today to help get it in 2. Wrongly it appears according to Google n-gram. But there was logic to it that I now realize could be a spoiler so not going to note it (but I guess even this could be a "third-level remove" spoiler).

150: I mean, if you'd rather discuss World of Warcraft, we can do it. If you want, I can link to the WoW subreddit or other major fan sites and you can see if they're having any more fun.

We're gonna need a smaller universe of discourse.

150: It's funny, 92 actually made me feel hostile for a bit. Over the years, back when this place was more active than it is, I felt strongly about keeping it open and welcoming to new people, understanding that it took a certain amount of courage to break into the conversation. And now some clown we don't know spams us with his Wordle score, without the courtesy of a single word to explain why we should care?

Everyone knows Ken.

155: Barbie's ex? Good to see that he has found a distraction from his heartbreak. 154 is just cruel.

It takes two to make a relationship that pathological.

Ken does Wordle like this; Barbie does Wordle like that.

134: I can't get past the bouncing blue jello.

Pick up the fireball, then throw it at the slime by clicking on the slime.

Thanks.

We could always change the named of the site to "unfoggled." Think of the extra page views!

The grocery store yesterday was out of many things that I usually get, incoming snow storm on top of covid-related strains. I had to buy chicken that was labeled "Spatchcocked". But I suppose you never really know about the chicken's history even if it is not labeled.

140: Both.

My "strategy" is based on ETAOIN SHRDLU, allegedly the most frequent letters in written English in order.*

Opening word: ATONE, containing letters with frequencies 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. So every game begins with an act of atonement.

Second word: Add to the match letters, from ISHRDLU in order, skipping around as needed to make actual common words. If the first five are all duds, next word could be SHIRK (frequencies 5,7, 8, 9), or LURID (frequencies 5, 9,10, 11, 12).

Spoiler alert for today: Thus solving today's in 2.

*Although apparently this ordering is based on frequency in some sample of written English, not frequency in 5 letter words, so it's probably not optimal. E.g. H comes up in text frequently in THE, probably not as much in 5 letter words.

I also added "or both".

I forgot that I already played it this morning, and went to play it again, and I did really well. #humblebrag

The problem with word-in-one is that no one will believe you. The last small impetus for people to submit completely to the surveillance state will be the desire to have their wordle scores believed.

I ragequit Wordle when it wouldn't let me guess ERATO.

166: Oh, I could believe it. Someone said upthread that the words come from a pool of 10,000 or so, right? So the odds are something like 10,000 to one. Higher than the odds of winning something good in the lottery, and someone manages to do that most days. I just wouldn't care because it's purely a matter of luck.

166:. When Bill McKibben got "solar" on his first guess (as seen on Twitter) it was totally believable.

2315 words, and based on the date difference algorithm it seems likely it rotates through them all, so if you consistently play ATONE for the next 6 years there will be a magical day when you get it on the first try.

You'll feel so bad afterwards for wrecking the spirit of the game that you'll have to figure out some repetitive daily ritual to make up for it.

Wordle 213 6/6

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Worst ever for me so far.

Wordle 213 3/6

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Followed the recommended strategy but then got lucky on the third guess I suppose.

https://swag.github.io/evil-wordle/

Wordle 213 6/6

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I could have been a bit smarter about it, but still, that was a tough one.

174- that's the same as Absurdle.

So much for following a method
Wordle 213 6/6*

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Had to chase this one down.

Wordle 213 5/6*

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I like that it says "Phew" when you get it on 6/6.

Genius
Magnificent
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Splendid
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It should say "cheater" for 1

Much like someone tried to sell an app by ripping it off, someone made wordlegame.org which is the top result on some search engines but isn't the shared experience of people doing the same word once a day. We can't have nice things.

180: It's all empty praise except the last.

I got it in 4 today. It feels like cheating that it doesn't count all the times that I guessed something not on the word list

My fifth guess was hitting submit to see if something I didn't think was a word was really a word.

Wordle 213 3/6

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The pause between two and three, while I hunted for possible words to fill the slots, was very long indeed because I had eliminated all the letters that came to mind.

151: 141: So much for my theory of the answer typically being the more obvious word.

My wife sort of used that principle today to help get it in 2. Wrongly it appears according to Google n-gram.

Revisiting this now that it is not a spoiler. My wife chose "shire" over "spire" taking into account British English vs. American English. But in n-grams "spire" still more frequent even in British English.

Wordle 213 5/6

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Wordle 214 3/6

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Wordle 214 3/6

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Similar but not matching.

Wordle 214 3/6*

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I think my strategy was different. My second row was completely different letters than my first. I was just looking to eliminate more letters.

Everyone I've seen today got it in three, even my 12 year old.

My second row was completely different letters than my first

This is not allowed in hard mode (denoted by asterisk on the score).

Oh. I didn't know there was a fancy mode.

195: I didn't realize that either. I had already decided, that it was probably statistically best to always make a guess that could be the right answer. But sometimes you can save time, not guesses, by just choosing a word to eliminate letters.

System worked today.

Wordle 214 2/6*

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196: Got in in three via the "eliminate letters" method. Lazy.

Wordle 215 3/6

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Wordle 215 3/6

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I got it in three also.

Wordle 215 3/6*

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Wordle 216 4/6*

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Wordle 216 3/6

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I feel smart. But in fairness, the strategy in 163 seems well suited to today's word.

I had stopped commenting here when it dropped off the front page but I see others continued. I saved my scores for the intervening days on my own blog and I could post them now if people are really curious. Should there be recurring threads for this while it's a fad? Should they go in the Check Ins thread?

Anything can go in the check-ins thread, but I am not excited by the idea of threads devoted entirely to green/yellow grids.

202: I was going to say, "What's the point?"

But then I thought, "Why be such a prick?""

203: Yes, if you must post your green/yellow grids, at least keep them segregated.

I didn't post mine even though I only needed three tries.

I went Pious Prick.

Just like The Thornbirds.

It was only a matter of time before there was a math version

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/business/media/new-york-times-wordle.html

I wonder if they'll change the word list?

Few things get me as annoyed as the lack of a clear wordlist for the Spelling Bee.

210: Who can blame the guy for cashing in, but this is why we can't have nice things.

I wonder if this will set off some kind of tiny puzzle dot com boom. There hasn't previously been a way for a puzzle writer to make this kind of money. Of course getting popular at the level of wordle is quite difficult, but maybe more moderate success can also lead to being bought by the NYT puzzle juggernaut.

looking forward to when the times becomes a gaming company that just happens to publish a legacy newspaper

https://twitter.com/jbouie

Gaming, movies, and sugar cereal test site.

(ie the world would be much improved if Jamelle became the NYT executive editor)

Sad about Wordle. Not sad that the creator got a nice payout, but just that everything good gets devoured.