Re: Thursday

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The Federal Bureau of Time finally did something!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 6:11 AM
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It was really different to have all is siblings together and running a house for my parents. But that was five years ago now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 6:20 AM
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Arizona will persist on Mountain Standard, though we all understand that's a fig leaf and in reality the state has conquered by Pacific time after decades of struggle.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:12 AM
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My wife really doesn't get the concept of siblings on anything but an intellectual level. It's strange.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:13 AM
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That's remarkable... I think the last time the three of us were together with my parents was November, and the last time in the ancestral home was... also November.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:16 AM
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It's s very small island with good train service.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:24 AM
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My nuclear family split in 1992, but since we were only a helium nucleus it hasn't been that unusual for my sister and I to get together with one parent or the other.

My mom, whose woes I posted about in one of the check-in threads, has been doing much much better since we went out to see her a few weeks back.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:33 AM
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It makes me really sad because we all get along really well and have a blast when we're together. We could've/should've been getting together yearly and enjoyed all this time together.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:36 AM
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Also all five of us were there for maybe 15 hours total.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:36 AM
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We're renting a house at the beach this summer to get together.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:42 AM
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We don't even have a parents' house.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:47 AM
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Since the Pacific coast states move to Mountain Standard Time during daylight saving time, which is Arizona's permanent time zone, Arizona would always be aligned with those states instead of being an hour ahead of them during the winter months if the bill is signed into law.

That article is correct about the time zones using current definitions, but those definitions would change under the Senate bill:

(b) Advancement Of Standard Time.--
(1) IN GENERAL.--The second sentence of subsection (a) of section 1 of the Act of March 19, 1918 (commonly known as the "Calder Act") (15 U.S.C. 261), is amended--
(A) by striking "4 hours" and inserting "3 hours";
(B) by striking "5 hours" and inserting "4 hours"; [etc.]

So what is now Pacific Daylight would be renamed Pacific Standard, and Arizona would be one hour behind the new Mountain Standard - effectively in the Pacific zone as 3 said.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:55 AM
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I don't want to be in the same time zone as Indiana. Does the new system fix that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:55 AM
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Or rather, keep that feature.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 7:56 AM
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On the repeal of standard time, I don't know where that will go in the house.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:13 AM
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I should have thoughts on the interest rate, but I just don't.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:20 AM
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I'm mildly skeptical the DST bill will get through the House, but even if it does and takes effect I'm skeptical it'll take any better than the last time we tried this back in the '70s. People think they hate the time change, and adjusting the clocks is somewhat annoying, but what they actually hate is winter.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:55 AM
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The article in 3 doesn't mention what the Navajos will do if this passes. If they stick with current practice, the Reservation will be on permanent (new) Mountain Time while the rest of Arizona is on permanent Pacific Time.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:57 AM
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The rest of Arizona in this case including the Hopi Reservation, btw. In the summer it's currently possible to drive about 200 miles entirely within the state of Arizona and have the time change 8 times.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 9:02 AM
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19: Isn't that basically going from 65% of the year being different to 100%?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 9:14 AM
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Yes.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 9:15 AM
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The Senate didn't vote to repeal DST, they voted to make it permanent year-round. I'm against this! I want year-round standard time. I hate waking up in the dark, and I like dusk to fall at a reasonable hour in the summer. You can't make everyone happy I guess. It's still better than losing an hour of my life every spring.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 9:21 AM
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Oh man, apparently this only went through because Rubio's office pulled a fast one and exploited a loophole in Senate procedure.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 9:29 AM
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Parent of 5, all now in their 30s. Having them and spouses/partners/significant others plus 2 grandkids together in our family home a couple times a year are the happiest moments in my life. Even when they're ragging on each other for dumb stuff. On the other hand, my wife's sister lives 2 miles away and we see her maybe once or twice a year.


Posted by: No longer middle age man | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:05 AM
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Pseud checks out.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:10 AM
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I was going to post the link in 23, which I find hilarious.

Why doesn't this happen all the time? Because of traditions of senate decorum, as otherwise each faction would have to have someone babysitting the floor at all times to object to every request for unanimous consent. Congrats to senator Rubio's staff for making the place one click more dysfunctional!


Posted by: Osgood Yousbad | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:11 AM
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Was that an exploit? It looks like senators were notified and either they slept on the switch or their staff did.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:11 AM
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It's an exploit because they went ahead and actually did it when the expected objection fell through rather than finding someone else to object.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:39 AM
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22 is right.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 10:50 AM
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13: Speaking of, I think people who live in NYC or DC and write opinion pieces about how much they like DST, because it makes the sun set later, should be forced to move to Indiana.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 11:42 AM
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Nobody should be forced to live in Indiana. Monster.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 11:50 AM
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30: I live in Ohio, and I like DST. But I think there should also be laws stating schools need to start later.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:04 PM
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I was just with all my siblings in September of last year for a family reunion/baby shower. But the last time I was with my siblings without their spouses -- well, I think that was probably over 35 years ago, before they were all married.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:08 PM
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People think they hate the time change, and adjusting the clocks is somewhat annoying, but what they actually hate is winter.

That's probably true, and that's why so few people are motivated to do anything about global warming.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:11 PM
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Daylight Saving Time Gripe Assistant Tool. A helpful map to fuel the argument. For example, you can easily see who gets the fuzzy end of the lollipop.*

* New England, of course.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:19 PM
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I don't like going to work in the dark, but I hate getting off work and it's nighttime already, and I've wasted my life.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:25 PM
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Have you tried working from home?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 12:57 PM
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37: Yes, that's preferable.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 1:01 PM
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I'll write you a note.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 1:20 PM
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Thanks, Moby!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 1:37 PM
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I'll sign it "Woody Hayes, Jr. Certified practitioner of public healthiness. "


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 3:04 PM
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I'd like to see a push to return to whatever that Roman calendar was where there are 10 months and then some indeterminate "winter". Also Ides.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 4:24 PM
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My birthday is in one of the bullshit months they added.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 4:35 PM
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What about the Mayan one where they get to 2012 and start over?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 4:42 PM
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The pontifex can tell us when to change the clocks and how far forward or back based on the auguries.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:06 PM
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Give me a sheep liver instead of that nonsense.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 8:11 PM
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People think they hate the time change, and adjusting the clocks is somewhat annoying, but what they actually hate is winter.

Or commuting. Or working. I didn't hate Standard Time as much last year when I was purely working from home and not stuck in the middle of a cubicle farm until released into darkness.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-17-22 11:48 PM
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In the same week as our extremely rare nuclear family reunion, we had to make plans to put my mom's dog down (she stopped eating on Monday, although she is still drinking water and tottering around occasionally to find my mom), and then yesterday my dad was removed from his director positions (after 32 years) and more or less forced into emeritus status (after 45 years). So it's been an intense week. (Not bad exactly, and I was glad to be there for the harder parts, but still intense.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 2:33 AM
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My sympathies heebie


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 2:41 AM
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48: Last Dog is a sad milestone for me - when parents/grandparents realize that any replacement pet might well outlive them or they could no longer take good care of an animal if their health declined. I'm sorry.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 4:20 AM
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That's why I'm worried about my tortoise.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 5:16 AM
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51: Are there any younger lurkers out there willing to take on a pet tortoise once Moby gets too infirm to take the tortoise out for a daily walk?

(pretty sure everyone that comments here is too old for this to work)


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 5:50 AM
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30: Moved from NY to Indiana and love the way daylight works here! (Of course it'll depend a lot on your job and daily schedule.)


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 5:53 AM
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As long as it wasn't forced.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 6:01 AM
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Beyond like, capitalism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 6:11 AM
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50: Amy MIL got a corgi shortly before my FIL got sick. It really helped her when he died, especially the lonely months after COVID. Corgis can live 15 or 16 years, so everyone figures it might outlive her. When Tim's brother had a second kid, they had to send their dog to the grandparents. One day they forgot to take him out for a walk. That poor dog was so stressed, because the 18 month old was running around the apartment all day, and then the newborn was up all night, and it never got to sleep. It had been an anxious dog it's whole life and would moan all day when left alone in a crate. Moving in with retired people with another dog, was peaceful. Tim's brother figures that he'll probably have to return the favor. She's in an apartment now, and they have a house.


Posted by: Boatoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-18-22 6:52 AM
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