Re: Equity Dispensaries

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I'll have to remember what I was reading, but something saying that the NYS attempt at an equity regulation was hopeless, because to get a license you both needed to have a marijuana arrest on your record and have successfully run a legitimate small business for several years, and basically no one meets those two criteria. Business owners don't get arrested for marijuana crimes, and kids who get arrested for marijuana crimes don't end up owning businesses.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 6:45 AM
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Irrelevant quibble:

what historian Ira Katznelson calls "white affirmative action"

I don't much like that phrase. What he is describing here is more accurately described as "white supremacy." Today, there are advocates for affirmative action. There are very few advocates for "Black supremacy."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 6:49 AM
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White supremacy aside, legal weed was oversold on basically every front. It solves the problem of people getting arrested for having weed very well, but it's not going to fix a broken city except where not arresting people will fix it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 7:29 AM
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As a nervously law-abiding person who doesn't like ingesting unregulated products sold by criminals, legal weed has let me figure out that actually, under the right circumstances I quite enjoy edibles.


Posted by: Dilma Roussef | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 7:36 AM
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Irrelevant and wrong. WAA is a good description for social aid everyone should have access to but that has been only available to WP (yes, because white supremacy).


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 7:41 AM
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4: Good point. I'd also be very afraid of black market weed vapes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 7:52 AM
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And then I remember the significant number of people who would respond to the phrase WAA with "it's about time".


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 8:36 AM
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Yeah, this all seems like a dumb impractical policy. If you want to compensate people for being arrested for marijuana just do that, don't set up some complicated Rube Goldberg program. It's dumb and is setting people up for failure.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 8:50 AM
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3: Legal weed delivers on the criterion I care about: being able to buy weed in a safe legal fashion. Really miss living in CA for a semester and hope we get legal weed here some day.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 8:52 AM
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3: AFAICT, a surprising (to me anyway) outcome of legal weed is that use basically doesn't spread, but you do start to see the classic power rule distribution, with heavy users becoming really heavy users. But from my understanding, regular users* haven't meaningfully increased in number where it's become legalized.

*like, once a month or more, not nec. daily or weekly.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:07 AM
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Seems like a really well-reported article; thank you for sharing it. I continue to marvel at the transformation of TNR.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:18 AM
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Particular love for "Illusion of inclusion/I'mma trap till the wheels fall off" guy at the end.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:20 AM
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on Netflix shows inter alia Big Weed eating poor white people too. Equal opportunity!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:44 AM
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For some reason I'm going to guess 13 is lw. Am I right???


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:48 AM
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They ate my HTML too
Murder Mountain


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:49 AM
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Did TNR stop sucking?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:51 AM
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Selling weed used to be a great opportunity for small entrepreneurs who didn't need a lot of capital to make a good business of it. They would provide a high level of customer service, bringing dope to your house.

Except for being legal, the new system of a few giant players running pot cartels from centralized grow and dispensary operations isn't really better.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:53 AM
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The Feds have a whole body of law dealing with set-asides that seeks to prevent token and/or exploitive arrangements. (I've had some cases over the years dealing with SBA's affiliation rules.) It's kind of wild to see people reinventing the wheel, and trying to see if maybe square will work this time.

Rhetoric about equity is great, but the simple truth is that if a spigot is going to be turned on, a whole lot of people try to find ways to get their bucket under it. Each pushed, as if by an invisible hand, to limit other folks' access to the thing.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 9:56 AM
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The Feds have a whole body of law dealing with set-asides that seeks to prevent token and/or exploitive arrangements. (I've had some cases over the years dealing with SBA's affiliation rules.)

Yeah, as another example, HUD recently revised their Section 3 regulations, which try to ensure that projects employ people from the groups supposed to benefit from them, in part to focus on hours worked rather than number of new hires. (This affects my own work pretty directly because it changes how we need to report things.) There's a whole big evolving body of knowledge around these issues.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 10:02 AM
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Rhetoric about equity is great, but the simple truth is that if a spigot is going to be turned on, a whole lot of people try to find ways to get their bucket under it. Each pushed, as if by an invisible hand, to limit other folks' access to the thing.

This is true.

Also the word spigot feels like a mash-up of as many racist or problematic epithets as possible.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 10:13 AM
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20.last spoken like a bigot


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 10:48 AM
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Are you calling me a faucet?!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 10:59 AM
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No reason for moen-ing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:04 AM
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Not that I want to enforce Kohler-out culture.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:15 AM
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Really just seems like another way unequitable distribution compensated for by mountains of paperwork to ensure 'equity' is a poor equilibrium. And i'm not sure dealer (a mix of direct marketing and legal avoidance) is really the same skill set as shop owner (hiring low wage customer service people, advertising, accounting).

Plus all these things - > are objectively good (well except the suburban favoritism in the mortgage loans).


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:47 AM
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That's the American Standard.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:52 AM
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14. This is my first appearance in this thread.

9. NJ pretty soon.

25: https://www.perigold.com/Kallista--Grid-Sink-Faucet-Cube-Handles-P26100CUBL-L655-K~LBCI1443.html?refid=GX438812264852-LBCI1443


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:53 AM
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22-24: Something something Pfister something


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:53 AM
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I suppose the canonical form would have been: Pfister? I barely know her!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:55 AM
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Yes. Would have worked better.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 11:59 AM
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I get along fine with my parents, we don't live near each other so we don't interact very regularly, but we enjoy each others company when we visit. They'd probably be more involved with my life if I had kids or if I were still Christian, but it's fine. On the other hand, the whole "having a partner lets you see the way your parents are crazy" really resonates. It doesn't negatively effect me too much, but it's been sort of interesting to realize the various ways things about my mom that are very much not normal. I legitimately spent most of my life believing that a small spill of juice requires washing the entire floor because otherwise it'll stay sticky somewhere. And there's just a lot of stuff around her inability to ever say no causing everyone to have to be careful to not ask her for things. Nothing particularly unpleasant or anywhere near something where I'd reduce contact, but it's been interesting to learn "wait, that's not normal."


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:06 PM
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Ugh, wrong thread.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:06 PM
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OK one more, just for this thread: https://www.sweethome247.com/products/kitchen-faucet-single-handle-one-hole-electroplated-standard-spout-centerset-contemporary-kitchen-taps


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:07 PM
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Are we abruptly in favor of "building generational wealth," which if memory serves was a phrase that the T/r/m/p offspring used as cliché camouflage for their Russian money laundering capitalization? Will this become the next "taking up space"?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:08 PM
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34: "Taking up space" ? I only know this as the horrible punch line that follows, "My brother is studying to be an astronaut"


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:12 PM
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35: I may be oversensitive to the aggression of repetition.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:24 PM
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I think we're in favor of promoting racial equity in the opportunity to build generational wealth. There's an awful lot of white people out there who have inherited houses and small businesses and so on -- not Trump wealth, but wealth, and many fewer black people.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:25 PM
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That's been illegal for 150 years.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:28 PM
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37: These programs don't seem tuned for either equity or opportunity.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:29 PM
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Yeah, these specific programs are probably hopeless. But the goal is worth attending to.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:33 PM
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38: She did say "fewer."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 12:52 PM
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Did TNR stop sucking?

Not exactly, but they started running significantly more articles I actually wanted to read during the last... wow, decade? (I also didn't know Spackerman got fired for being an asshole, which is very funny to me.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 1:02 PM
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I'm sure we talked about the Spackerman firing here at the time. Ah yes. Probably other threads around that time too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 1:31 PM
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That was a long time ago.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 1:41 PM
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Indeed. My goodness, the Bush years are all uncanny valley at this point: the combination of direct memory and disinterested reflection-with-hindsight... (I worry that the latter interferes too much with the former, actually.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 1:52 PM
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Yeah, it's wild.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 2:01 PM
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idk, maybe this expectation that literally any single policy proposal, no matter how recondite, must solve literally all known problems is bad.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 2:53 PM
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Her great-great-grandparents owned land in Rappahannock County, Virginia, and operated a store. White neighbors did not want them there

.....i know, legal pot? I think this comes from pitch culture. if your theory of victory is that you successfully pitch some idea to a grantmaking authority, well, you're going to pack in as many imaginable benefits as possible because that's better than fewer, in the same way as you always put more goodies into your Personal Statement.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 2:58 PM
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people used to complain about single issue politics, but we've moved from single issue politics to single-instruction, multiple-data politics, where like doing a cycle lane is also meant to dismantle the concept of truth and bring peace to the Middle East.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04-12-22 3:00 PM
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OK, that's an unusually entertaining spambot. (For the record, it's posting a succession of anecdotes about self-experimentation under different nicks pointing to the same target site, emulating an eclectic web magazine. I think it might have scraped them from some past comments thread.)


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 3:05 AM
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It is a very bad and very prolific spambot. I just deleted hundreds of comments.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 4:24 AM
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I used to be able to ban IP addresses, but the site seems to hang up when I try now.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 4:25 AM
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Yes, it's to the point where it's not spam so much as an attack on the blog.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 4:29 AM
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Thank you.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 5:51 AM
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Either it's stopped or someone other than me did something less primitive than just deleting the comments to make it stop.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 6:32 AM
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Standpipe is watching.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 6:33 AM
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Oh yikes, maybe "funny" links to crappy commercial sites are a bad idea--- screenshotting and linking to those would be better from that point of view, but that means just a link to twitter or reddit or something.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 7:17 AM
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50 is now funny as it seems to refer to 48 and 49, and actually I had to stop and pause for a sec.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 7:36 AM
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33: Your faucet designers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-13-22 10:07 AM
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Meanwhile, I'm now wondering what very long instruction-width politics would be like.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04-14-22 3:07 AM
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