Re: Darndest things

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[guitar riff from "Rebel Rebel" intensifies]


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:03 AM
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Do they have you in a whirl?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:09 AM
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Yes. But not for the lyrically-assigned reasons.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:14 AM
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1: I imagine a 2020s teen listening to that song, and wondering - "what's all the fuss? they're non-binary". But Ace's behavior suggests this is still about rebellion, even if the parents aren't throwing you out of the house or demanding that you wear gender-appropriate clothing, but instead trying very hard to remember to use your preferred pronouns.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:16 AM
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WHAT DO YOU GOT?


Posted by: OPINIONATED JOHNNY STRABLER | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:41 AM
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High blood pressure and various muscle aches.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 10:43 AM
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Can't rebel when you have permission. Your part now is to forbid, absolutely forbid, wearing that mini-skirt.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:12 AM
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I frustrated my children's rebellious instincts a fair amount by being overly relaxed. Interestingly, my one arbitrary rule -- no piercings beyond earlobes and no tattoos before eighteen -- was griped about but abided by (until Sally hit eighteen, at which point the rule expired and she got herself all pierced and multiply tattooed).


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:21 AM
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I mean, you can rebel against society even when your parents don't care or are supportive.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:24 AM
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Isn't it the law that you can't get a tattoo until you're 18?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:25 AM
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Ace also got their ear doubly-pierced, with their BFF. It's been a big week for fashionable 4th graders.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:26 AM
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I think you can with parental permission or a fake ID.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:26 AM
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Given that Jammies and I are full of tattoos and piercings, Hawaii is actually doing a much better job of rebelling than Ace.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:29 AM
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8 In high school a male friend of mine wanted to get an ear piercing but his dad insisted he would have to get a nose piercing first. Of course he got neither but you couldn't say that to a kid now and expect it to work.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:29 AM
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The idea of being tattooed really does not appeal to me, but so I don't seem judgemental, I tell people I don't want one in case I want to be buried in an Orthodox Jewish cemetery.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:30 AM
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I considered getting a (semi)traditional Samoan tattoo while I was there, but figured it would look stupid on my pale and stringy self. I have not regretted the lost opportunity.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:32 AM
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Likewise, I am not sad that my parents rolled their eyes at my idea of a butterfly tattoo on the back of my hand and discouraged it. Not sure why a butterfly appealed to me - I wasn't a Lillith/fairy wings type of teen - but I specifically wanted the back of the hand so that it would be un-hide-able. Because I'm not some fake-ass poser.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:35 AM
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Facial tattoos are the real non-poser move.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:38 AM
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A different parental tactic.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:38 AM
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We keep offering to let our 18yo have a drink with us and he says he's never going to drink. He's even looking at a substance free dorm for freshman year next fall.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 11:55 AM
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re: 18

Totally ubiquitous here now. I see people in suits or conservative clothing all the time with visible neck and face tattoos. I don't know what percentage of 20/30 somethings have neck or face tattoos here, but it's really extraordinarily high. Go into any completely normal pub, and there'll be at least a couple of people in the bar with face or neck tattoos.

Personally, I have no tattoos. I like them, or at least I've seen plenty of tattoos I like, but my wife, on the whole, does not. I occasionally think about getting one to commemorate if/when I finally get to looking how I otherwise want to look (weight, etc), but I'm not sure it would pass spousal scrutiny and I'm not sufficiently into the idea that I'd cause a load of marital strife over it.

I did have earrings for years (two in one ear, one in the other) and used to deliberately wear non-gender-confirming earrings through my late teens and early 20s. I've not worn one for 20 years, though.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 12:05 PM
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Facial tattoos are becoming fairly common here too, but that's primarily due to a revival of interest among Alaska Native women for whom they're traditional.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 12:08 PM
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On a flight in New Zealand I saw a guy (I assume Maori, but certainly Polynesian) whose facial hair was shaved (I assume? could be laser removed?) into the shape of a traditional face tattoo. It was incredible.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 01- 4-23 12:18 PM
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