Re: Seems Like Old Times

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I may well get there closer to 5:30 depending on what film(s) I'm catching before the meetup. I'll update here.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 8-23 6:14 AM
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Will Jackmormon be there, or just the gorilla?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 07- 8-23 12:21 PM
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Feels like it's safe to violate the sanctity of offblog communication but Jackmormon has indicated that she will be there, and Mr. Blandings too.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 8-23 7:13 PM
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|| AfD durchbruch? |>


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 07- 9-23 12:22 AM
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Speaking of old times, this really awful housing expert (Robert Marbut) was hired by Heebieville to study us for five months and give a report plus recommendations. I was able to find an article by Kriston to help me shore up why he was so terrible, and it gave me warm fuzzies. Not the article. Just the convenience of trusting the author.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-23 6:06 AM
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Aw nuts, I would have loved to attend this. I only have 4 social engagements a year, so it's a shame that one of them conflicts with this gathering. Next time!


Posted by: Chris (Non-bald) | Link to this comment | 07- 9-23 3:21 PM
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I can't come. I have covid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-23 8:47 PM
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Oh no!! how bad do you feel?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 6:13 AM
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|| I don't think so, but they have confounded me quite a bit over the last 10 years. I wonder if they are getting votes from the Left, as a protest that expresses Eastern identity. I also wonder how much Russian money they're getting and whether it's effective. Appalling as it is, most European countries have about 15% to 20% of the population that's prepared to vote far right. Germany had been on the low end of that, now maybe less so. |>


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 6:51 AM
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8: I took two flights after I started coughing but before I could take a test. I was masked, but I still feel guilty.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 7:03 AM
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Hope it's a mild one Moby. You and non bald Chris will be missed.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 8:16 AM
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10: Two flights of stairs would make anyone feel out of breath. Don't be so hard on yourself.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 8:18 AM
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|| They confound me also. I wonder also about transfers from the Linke (assumming that's what you mean by left?).The piece I read had some protest vote anecdata. |>


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 07-10-23 7:57 PM
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|| Yes, Linke is what I meant by Left. I've been following Germany since the Republikaner were a thing and thought I had a pretty good handle on the rise and fall of rightist/protest parties. I think (open to correction) that they tend to rise when the CDU/CSU tends to tack to the center and/or they are seen as ineffective. They tend to fall when the CDU/CSU tacks back rightward, when the wave of enthusiasm crests and the protest party's own ineffictiveness is driven home, and corruption/general weirdoness do them in. Sometimes all three. Maybe Merkel's long chancellorship kept the CDU/CSU closer to the center for longer, leaving space for AfD to partly get over their weirdness problem. My suspicion is that Russian money and maybe organization helped them overcome both growing pains and the lack of funding that fledgling parties have. On the other anecdatal hand, a lady on the S-Bahn today apparently heard some older guys talknig about understanding why people vote AfD and gave them a piece of her mind, including "if you keep thinking that way we might not have a democracy for long." I had been too engrossed in my Rivers of London book to hear the guys, but after they scuttled away at a station, I gave her a thumbs up and some encouragement. Well done random German lady! |>


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 07-11-23 6:29 AM
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Can a FPP please give this a bump?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 6:17 AM
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done. I almost bumped the guest post by mistake, ha.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 6:54 AM
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Thanks!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 7:05 AM
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I'll probably be there around 5ish.
I'm going in to catch Godard's Contempt at Film Forum at 2:30.
I think I found the limits of my cinephila, I really wanted to see the restoration of Eustache's masterpiece The Mother and the Whore now screening at FilmLinc but I just haven't got it in me to sit through a 3 hour and 40 minute movie, at least not today.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 9:03 AM
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Yeah, that's a long movie. I liked it better when they ended after 90 minutes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 9:04 AM
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I won't be able to get there until closer to 6:30, but I figure you'll still be there.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 10:01 AM
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19: It's a film from 1973. Probably a mistake to attribute the extreme length to the influence of Avengers:Endgame.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 11:04 AM
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I blame comic book movies for lots of stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 11:09 AM
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21: I blame Lawrence Of Arabia.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 11:18 AM
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I blame La Roue and Greed


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 11:41 AM
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My gorilla and I will be there probably around 6:30.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 1:41 PM
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JM!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 1:41 PM
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Hi!


Posted by: j-mo | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 1:42 PM
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For clarity's sake, Mr Blandings is not being referred to as a gorilla in this thread. Or in the post. Or anyplace at all, really.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 1:55 PM
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I just got there, it's jam packed and there's nowhere to sit, inside or out. I'm now sitting in that little park between Fulton and Beekman on the east side of Pearl.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:04 PM
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Hrm. Any hope for loitering until a table opens up?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:06 PM
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I would but with my knee not fully recovered I can't stand around that long.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:10 PM
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Have you tried standing on a foot?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:11 PM
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Also I made the mistake of wearing a black shirt and with all the heat and the schvitzing I look like something the cat dragged in.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:12 PM
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There are bigger outdoor bars a block away at South Street Seaport. Maybe see if you can find a table at this place: https://theseaport.nyc/explore/eat-drink/garden-bar/ ?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:16 PM
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On my way to check it out


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:17 PM
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Woo liveblogging!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:24 PM
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I'm there now, sitting next to the Barbie Cafe. Yes, you read that right.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:25 PM
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No proper pints, over $8 for a beer in a tiny plastic cup that I'm going to have to nurse till someone gets here.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:30 PM
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I remember Fresh Salt as clearing out after like 6:30 or 7:00, but it's possible that post-pandemic the traffic behaves differently.


Posted by: j-mo | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:34 PM
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Heading downtown now.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:36 PM
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39 thanks, we can always relocate there


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:37 PM
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Gorillas in the park


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:38 PM
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Is there also an Oppenheimer Cafe?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:39 PM
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43 if only there were


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 2:45 PM
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Gorilla has arrived.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 4:01 PM
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We've just relocated to Fresh Salt. Seems like old times indeed.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 5:23 PM
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Thanks to LB, Mr. Blandings, Jackmormon, neb, and a mysterious Irish man for coming out tonight. It great to see you all and I look forward to seeing you again next year, or maybe sooner if anyone wants to visit Arrrakis.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 6:42 PM
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It WAS great...


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 6:42 PM
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Pierce Brosnan?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 6:45 PM
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The Barbie cafe was a whole situation.

Great to see you all!


Posted by: jmo | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 7:13 PM
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There are lurkers! We just live in Maine now.


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 8:09 PM
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So much urban Barbie content today.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-12-23 8:23 PM
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So I never did get around to explaining the new insight into the another think/g coming issue.

When we originally talked about it, I noticed that part of what made it confusing was that in my dialect, and I think in most American dialects, the consonants at the end and beginning of the two relevant words overlap, which makes them phonetically indistinguishable in practice -- "think coming" and "thing coming" sound exactly the same because a g overlapping with a k sound just sounds like a k.

An Irish informant just told me that in his dialect and he thinks in a lot of English dialects, the two phrases are clearly distinguishable -- in "think coming" you pronounce the two k sounds very separately in a staccato kind of way, whereas "thing coming" overlaps in the same way Americans pronounce both phrases. An American saying "think coming" sounds unambiguously as if they've said "thing coming" to a speaker of one of these dialects.

And you know who's from the UK? Judas Priest. Which got "thing coming" into print, and then the whole thing was off to the races.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-13-23 4:32 AM
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47 I can't believe I forgot to mention and thank the gorilla, she was a very adorable, freshly groomed, and well-behaved gorilla.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-13-23 5:52 AM
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A huge, beautiful gorilla. The best gorilla.


Posted by: President Donald J. Trump | Link to this comment | 07-13-23 7:45 AM
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53 is quite a theory. Is Language Log still alive?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 07-13-23 10:16 AM
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Apparently it is but I had to check. I'm not sure I totally understand the theory; in general English regardless of dialect doesn't make the kind of complete distinction (closure and release) that he seems to be claiming between two adjacent stops so it's probably something to do with the quality of the vowel leading in.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-13-23 10:20 AM
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Deosil, widdershins,
Dexter and sinister,
Who'll be the next
British prime minister?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-14-23 2:44 PM
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