Re: Guest Post: The excitement of seeing a much-anticipated production

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Also fuck Paxton. I was debating writing about him and it seemed so depressing and boring, and this is way better.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 6:42 AM
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I saw a thing where someone argued that the coastal elite has too widely spaced generations to relate to a grandmother getting felt up in a theater. Two Americas.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 6:48 AM
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I can accept that roughly half of America has bad politics. I'll never understand why so many want those politics delivered by self-evidently cretinous people.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 6:55 AM
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I have no idea what the fuck you people are talking about. But, fuck vapers.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 6:55 AM
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3: Because it's much more about the most effective way to say 'fuck you' than it is about any actual politics. They're just voting for their anger-rep.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:04 AM
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People, I would rep your anger so fucking well. MC for UNSG.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:13 AM
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Ugly Naked Senate Guy? I'm having Di Kotimy flashbacks.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:29 AM
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All in blue, Heebie.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:30 AM
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5: I guess that's the part I don't get? You want and expect literally nothing from your government? So you vote for the human equivalent of Bababooey?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:37 AM
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"human equivalent of Bababooey" made me laugh.

But yes. As CharleyCarp says, government is something that happens on TV.

I just had a mini-thought experiment about what would happen if people were allowed to vote on the CEO of Target, and I concluded that it might actually help drive home how government should work, because you'd elect a CEO, but being a CEO, they could actually implement their agenda, and so after electing the one who ran on "lower costs", suddenly the lines would be twice as long and no one would be available to help you, and you'd see a connection between the words people used and what happened in the actual store.



Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:45 AM
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And every time the new Target CEO is a woman, she furloughs the employees because she's mad the previous CEO was a man.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 8:03 AM
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10.3 is great


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 8:12 AM
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I chuckled at this headline: Lauren Boebert issues apology after finding out Beetlejuice shows have really good night vision cameras.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 8:31 AM
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Freed from space constraints, copy editors are getting really descriptive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:00 AM
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You want and expect literally nothing from your government?

Professional friend of mine was interviewing some folks ahead of some environmental something or other. When asked, one older woman could not conceive of a governmental process that could deliver any good outcome. Nothing. In her assessment, government had only ever made things worse.

If government only ever makes things worse, then the best it can do is nothing. Anger-reps who fuck up the process are just fine; they make the nothing outcome more likely.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:11 AM
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I'm just so mad she didn't have the decency to do this last month when that theater was showing Jagged Little Pill.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:15 AM
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They didn't get to oral.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:16 AM
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15: I think some people compare government action with "everyone does what I want because I'm obviously right."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:18 AM
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There was some painfully didactic story, recorded upon vinyl and disseminated unto the stupid children of the world. And in this story there was a statue, grandly adorned in precious metals and stones; and the statue was anthropomorphized, so as to manipulate the emotions of said children; and the precious adornments of the statue were stolen, gilded scale by jeweled eye, by a bird, so as to provide for a starving beggar child; and this commenter humbly requests of this prestigious company any pointers as to the name and/or author of said story.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:46 AM
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Never heard of it. Maybe Aesop?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:51 AM
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The Happy Prince, maybe?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 9:57 AM
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He could have called it "The Importance of Being Earnest. "


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 10:01 AM
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Got it in two!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 10:02 AM
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That's what she said.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 10:18 AM
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That's rarely on topic.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 10:19 AM
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Achaemenids are always on topic. It's their world; the rest of just are just living it.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 10:22 AM
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Instead of just complaining about access to birth control or the cost of housing with a private bedroom, the Colorado Republican Party is thinking of solutions.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 11:21 AM
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They've ruled out oral sex because it was invented by Bill Clinton and because it might result in a woman having an orgasm.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 11:29 AM
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Are we going to talk about Laurent Boebert

Laurent/Lauren could be its own play. Or a conspiracy theory.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 11:56 AM
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Everybody post your SAT score and the farthest you've ever gotten in a theater.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:02 PM
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It was interesting to look at the timing of this puff piece about how she's getting more normal in her own district.

Sunday Sept. 10: the show
Tuesday, 4:48pm: Denver Post first reports the incident, with video
Wednesday, 5:00am: Politico runs the profile
Wednesday/Thursday: The incident goes viral


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:03 PM
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I didn't hear about it until Friday.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:04 PM
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the farthest you've ever gotten in a theater

I was Oin the dwarf in The Hobbit in 9th grade.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:11 PM
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So how far in the hobbit did you go?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:13 PM
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Looking at Trends, her searches went up right when the Denver Post article came out and plateaued for a few days, but then jumped up an order of magnitude starting Friday afternoon. I think that was when more complete video came out including the groping.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:13 PM
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Hello, dwarven laydeez.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:15 PM
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Looking back on it, I got about as far as Boebert did but that was certainly a bigger deal for 9th grade me than for a mid-thirties Boebert.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:19 PM
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36: Oh wow. Thank you for that.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:31 PM
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Laurent Boebert

Laurbernt Boerbernt


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:32 PM
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36 is truly magical.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:34 PM
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Better than Peter Jackson did.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:40 PM
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Is that a fake beard, or real, or made from your own head-hair trimmings?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 12:47 PM
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42 must it have been head-hair?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 1:51 PM
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In other WTF news, WTAF, India?


Posted by: DaveLHI | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:08 PM
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I said in another thread that Boebert's outfit looked like something that shows up in annoying web ads but I couldn't remember the company. I just saw one of the ads again via a browser where I don't have ad-blocking set up and the company is T/e/m/u, which seems to be associated with people asking whether it's a legitimate company. I guess it makes sense, people ask whether Boebert is a legitimate rep.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:29 PM
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That company keeps trying to sell me shirts about how I'm a proud black woman.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:33 PM
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You clearly haven't been out and loud enough about that.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:54 PM
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I know that company from an onslaught of YouTube ads that are distinctive in using AI for voiceovers. So it gives the impression of being a company consisting almost entirely of algorithms.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:57 PM
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Right. But most algorithms have figured out that I'm really white.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 3:58 PM
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I mostly google hiking gear, Nebraska obituaries, and directions to liberal arts colleges.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 4:01 PM
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Nebraska died? No one told me


Posted by: No Longer Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 4:31 PM
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NMMtNebraska


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 5:04 PM
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People younger than me from my town keep dying and the papers never provide a reason so I can explain why it will never happen to me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 5:28 PM
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My kid bought a bunch of stuff from them. He got like 10 watches because they're about $2 each. His brother who's into natsec things keeps saying there are Chinese spy devices in them. They keep giving you big coupons with every order to keep you buying more stuff.
A promotional tweet for the Politico profile was "Lauren Boebert: Rabble-rouser in D.C., public servant back home," if only they'd left out the L.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 5:33 PM
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Richard Fenno need to write a sequel to "Home Style".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 5:42 PM
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It was indeed a glued-on beard made from my own hair.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 5:51 PM
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I'd say that Politico is worthless, but it's far worse than that. From day 1, dedicated to having a substantial proportion of its readership be conservatives,* and so the tolerance for bad faith argumentation, and bad faith readings of Democratic positions, is very high.

* Do their eyeballs not also need to be monetized, for the selling of soap?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 6:43 PM
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Liberals buy soap. Conservatives buy gold bullion coins. This is why conservatives are a much more attractive on-line audience.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 7:17 PM
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She has also now apologized for handying a Democrat.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-18-23 8:39 PM
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52: No more Mt Nebraska?

34: She was positively Gloin!


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 1:33 AM
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57: Yes. My take on Mike Allen (chief political writer at Politico for years, now at Axios, which is basically the same or worse) was that he has easily done far more damage to American democracy than his father who was a spokesperson for the John Birch Society.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 4:51 AM
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They used to have a sign outside of town. One side was "Get US out of UN." The other side was "Stop Trade-Aid with Communists." I was never sure what prompted the second one. One of the local complaints about Carter was his boycott of the Soviets.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 5:06 AM
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62: Isn't that the deals where we traded them grain for things?

(I'm told once you could see Soviet cargo ships going upriver to Stockton to load grain.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 5:42 AM
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62: I remember Archie Bunker saying he thought Jimmy Carter would sell wheat to the Soviets because once they had all that bread they would buy peanut butter from Jimmy Carter. Back then that kind of insightful analysis was comedy.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 5:45 AM
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We should have demanded a fiat currency.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 5:46 AM
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I've always wondered why the left can't produce something analogous to the John Birch Society. "Impeach Clarence Thomas," after all, makes a fuck of a lot more sense than "Impeach Earl Warren."

My current guess is that the leftist analog to the JB Society is equally uninterested in making sense, and is expending its energy promoting Cornel West and related foolishness.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 7:02 AM
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When fed-up less-traditionally-active leftists get together, they're more liable to make things like Indivisible and Moms Demand Action.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 10:02 AM
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Assume a divisible mom.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 10:12 AM
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I was in a group chat yesterday, and someone was saying how the Texas political climate is noticeably decreasing the number of faculty applications they're getting. I made Moby's joke, "The hidden downside of [X]", which in this case, X=outlawing abortions. But nobody seemed to think I was making a joke, which bummed me out.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 10:39 AM
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The "we want to check the fertility of women driving out of the state" probably doesn't help.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 11:05 AM
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19: "The Happy Prince" is a great story. Treacly, yes, but it gets at some big feelings about being a witness to suffering. It's also well-structured and the bird character is a really good foil for the prince. Note that it's the statue of the prince which wants to help people, not an actual prince, or, god knows, the government. It's about the artist and/or the child as witness.

Everything else in this country is one unbreakable nightmare and I'm rapidly approaching living-envy-the-dead territory. If I could pluck off all my gold leaf, die and be taken up into heaven with my best friend, I absolutely would.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 12:03 PM
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69: Not to bring up a topic I'm sure you're tired of, heebie, but I'm always surprised you've lasted there as long as you have.

71: sorry, Frowner. Is everything OK personally? Just because things are going to hell in the big-picture sense doesn't mean they are personally, but...


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 1:12 PM
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66- I feel like horseshoe theory isn't a symmetric horseshoe, because idiots on the left become fascists a lot sooner than nuts on the right become socialists. Maybe some math professor could graph it.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 1:45 PM
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73: I think in practice it looks like both sides' idiots becoming fascists, some having a bit more of a socialist gloss on it.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 3:03 PM
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The horseshoe is pretty lopsided in that the idiot left could barely fill a football stadium and Cornel West will barely register, while the idiot right has a buffet table of Trump, DeSantis to Trump's right, and whatever the hell Vivek Ramaswamy represents this week.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 3:11 PM
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And is maybe a quarter to a third of the population.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 3:12 PM
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Also true.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 3:14 PM
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71.1: Thanks for sticking up for "The Happy Prince"! I love that story.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 5:07 PM
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It is in fact excellent, though I won't love it. I don't like the ever-so-cleverness but it is what is. So dense, accumulation and artistic production and prestige goods and mortality and futility.
It reminded me also of the Berlin episode in GITS:SAC.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Happy_Prince_and_Other_Tales/The_Happy_Prince


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 6:40 PM
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75 Jill Stein got over 1.4 million votes in 2016. That's more than attend every NFL game in any given week. Completely dwarfed by the idiot right, of course. By more than an order of magnitude.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-19-23 10:19 PM
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79: Get in the Sack: Strategic Air Command?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 09-20-23 12:37 AM
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Far be it from me to harsh your kink.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-20-23 5:54 AM
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80: Well, yes, I was being glib about the stadium. But the idiot right does actually appear to control the GOP legislative agenda and has put one of theirs in the White House, which is a way better OBP than the other side.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-20-23 8:14 AM
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