Where does the kid who sells loose cigarettes keep his stock without a locker?
Did other people stack lockers? You put a couple of books on the top shelf but ramped towards the door by other books. Then you carefully shut the door so the door is the only thing stopping the books from crashing down.
I know! They're wrecking like 30 different veronica mars plotlines with this policy.
2: intentionally? or from underdeveloped prefrontal cortex? If the latter, then yes.
Intentionally, and in other people's lockers. Almost no one locked their locker.
Oh huh. No, we all locked our lockers like good little students who are used to getting shit stolen.
Have I mentioned that my car was stolen from my high school? It was a 1980 park avenue buick, and this was probably 1994ish.
That wasn't me. There was a guy with many siblings and their car was set so that it didn't require a key. One guy tried to pay a joke by moving it, but it didn't work because none of them expected the car to be where they parked it.
We got it back. It was just a joyride, then abandoned. I think they smashed a window though.
It was annoying, because I always left the passenger door open because that automatic door didn't work, and that would save me when I locked my keys in the car. So just try the doors first! but nope.
That happened twice actually. The second time, my window was smashed to take the ashtray of change that I left sitting out. TRY THE DOOR! Please.
Anyway, the amount of shit my son carries around is ridiculous. And they are allowed lockers. I think the location isn't convenient.
We had lockers, but still had to carry a lot on our backs (in my memory) because there usually wasn't time to go to a locker between classes, so you refresh your load at start, middle, and end of day.
They used to sell us maple sticks every morning at break. Someone's parents decided that wasn't healthy and ruined it.
For some reason one of the lines that sticks most with me from the Hardy Boys is from one written in (and feeling like) the 90's, where one of the Hardys says airports don't have lockers anymore because it's "too easy for someone to leave a bomb in them". (And then they remember the bus station, because they're trying to trace a key.)
12: Are those like maple bars? If so just feels like pancakes in fewer steps, nutritionally.
No, it's maple frosted donuts, but shaped as a rectangle.
Maybe that's a "yes". I don't know what a maple bar is.
If it's dough, fat, and sugar, then yes, just seems like pancakes in a different configuration (assuming butter and maple syrup), which school cafeterias often sell.
I think middle school lockers were my introduction to crime. The most troublemaker classmate, who I vaguely hung out with, taught me that you could shoulder-surf and get the combo to other kids lockers, and I did. IIRC I swiped a very desireable Flair pen from Mark Read's locker and then decided the life of crime wasn't for me.
The maple flavor isn't syrup. It's like a tree, but sweetened.
It's just donut batter in a different shape.
The frosting is basically the same as on a Dunkin Donuts maple donut.
Lol, 3 was my first though too!
Most iconically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hYakDtFXYk
We had taller lockers. Not stacked.
Its hard to get an entire nerd to fit into a stacked locker. Won't someone think of the bullies?
OP: Yeah, I agree, and similarly don't see why they set the between classes bells so short (so you can't swing by your lockers, when you're allowed to use them, or otherwise have to hustle through crowds that are also hustling).
I suspect that it's an issue of not setting students up for failure by giving them long enough to meet and get into conversations, etc., that would make them late to classes.
I had lockers in junior high and high school, I don't remember for sure either way how much locks were used, but don't think it was too much. How trusting of us.
My sister's kids go to the same school system, but I don't know what their setup will be like, because since then they've merged schools with a neighboring town due to shrinking class sizes. Or something like that. I checked the Web site right now and found it more confusing than I expected.
Apparently there was at least one school that back in the day only had one locker per two students, who had to share.
Is there an industry of consultants dedicated to promulgating changes large and small to the public school experience so as to inspire parents to respond angrily and thereby trend towards voting the right wing revanchist line?
I am not a crackpot.
#11 was the situation when my kid was in HS. Anyone who wanted a locker could have one, but no one did, because there were only five minutes between classes, which was not enough time to pee, much less get to a locker and fetch your books.
Also kids were not allowed to have backpacks. AT ALL. Girls could carry purses, because of their periods, I guess. My kid (not yet completely transed) subverted this by carrying a HUUUUUGE "purse" which could fit all his books.
I don't recall girls carrying purses at my school, but it wouldn't have been against any rules. No one carried a backpack. It just wasn't considered. The school was pretty small, though classes were held in two different buildings.
Half-assing things was common. There was a student who needed to use a wheel chair and she was carried up and down the stairs.
30. Yes, there are people pushing public schools into policy choices that will benefit homeschoolers, pretty sure some of them are consultants.
Ours are I believe allowed to have lockers, but no one actually uses them, I guess for the reasons others have noted. Kids who play sports also have gym lockers, which they do use. When I was in school we had lockers and used (and locked) them regularly, so this all seems weird to me but it seems to be very common.
Speaking of paranoia eating its own tail, a US district judge has just ordered Mike Lindell to pay the $5m he promised in the "Prove Mike Wrong Challenge". (Specifically, denied Lindell's motion to vacate the award.)
He said he was out of money last October, though he hadn't declared bankruptcy.
Update: $5 million plus post-judgment interest beginning April 19, 2023.
In twenties, $5 million would take about ten cubic feet of space. I think you might need a tall locker.
I'm assuming the ATMs in his area don't dispense fifties or hundreds.
I remember things like not having enough time between classes to stop at your locker, but it seems like you could still stop by at lunchtime, and separate out your morning notebooks from your afternoon notebooks.
Note: I also think that having 7+ classes at a time is a lot. Maybe too much! I can't imagine going to 7+ meetings a day, and then doing band or whatever afterwards. Why do we keep kids so busy?
42: Not great for her sisters either.
43.last Idle hands do the devil's work. I think this is a pretty explicit motivation for afterschool sports participation in HS for at least some people?
In my freshman year classes met over a 2-day cycle, so day 1 you had 4 classes and day 2 you had a different 4 classes.
Then in sophomore or junior year we moved to 7 classes a day, except that magnet school students could and typically did come in at 7am for an eighth class. They even made our buses come early to allow for that.
I remember the metal links attaching my backpack straps bending under the weight of my books in high school. It was a cheap backpack but still.
We had three minutes between classes in middle school and sometimes I wonder what would happen if we treated kids like human beings. Ten minutes, so you can use the bathroom, chat, and then go learn? Would it be so bad?
We had ten minutes between classes and look how I turned out.
Except for between 2nd and 3rd period, where we had a longer break so we could buy maple sticks.
Did the principal own a maple stick company or something?
I doubt it. For one thing, she had taken a vow of poverty. The profits did go to the student council.
This discussion of time between classes reminded me that I wrote an essay for an English class in high school arguing for the 10- minute passing period. I believe that we originally had a 7- minute passing period, but we switched to 10 minutes on a trial basis. You can see that even in my youth, I was never one to shy away from a controversy.
49: That reminded me that when I went to school in Israel they had something called 10 o'clock meal. Everyone was worried about me because I didn't bring anything for this important meal.
I doubt it. For one thing, she had taken a vow of poverty.
Wait. Really?!
Yes. Still is. She retired to El Paso.
Everyone had a locker in my high school and everyone always kept it locked.
Once, when I was a freshman, a kid in my class mouthed off to her and she picked him up and held him against the locker with his feet off the ground.
I don't remember what he said, but I remember thinking he deserved it. He died during the bad covid days, but I don't know of what.
Maybe profits went to the convent.
I remember many people used their lockers in my middle school, which had a layout that meant you were likely to pass your locker a few times per day.
Very few used lockers in my much larger high school. My assigned locker was in a building that had mostly administrative offices and I rarely went there at all. I think I used my locker to hang dry my backpack once after an unfortunate yogurt spill led me to rinse it out in the morning or at lunch.
My most distinct memory of that incident was discovering the mess in my backpack when I went to take my book out for a class, while a friend looking over my shoulder and said, "Are you going to finish that?"
In grade school we had lockers for our coats, but our books went in our home room desks which were massive wood things with a lid. I think the girls now have lockers in the hall, home room.
In high school we just carried our age around but dropped them on the hallway floor when we had to go to school meeting or chapel.
We had hall lockers, which were necessary because our books were so hideously massive and heavy, but we only visited them a couple times a day to empty and refill our backpacks, because the campus was so big. We also had gym lockers to store our gym clothes and shoes. Both hall and gym lockers were kept locked at all times (I think I still remember the combination for my hall locker), because otherwise all our belongings would get stolen or vandalized.
The hall lockers were only about 3.5 feet tall, and were stacks of two (the gym lockers were in stacks of three). I remember being really disappointed about this when I got to high school - I thought you'd be able to step into your locker and close the door, like in You Can't Do That On Television.
We had shared lockers. I shared one with my girlfriend which kind-of sucked when we broke up.
I thought you'd be able to step into your locker and close the door, like in You Can't Do That On Television.
You Can't Do That In Real Life
In second grade my wife's teacher (though not one of the nuns) hung Timmy on a coatrack. I'm not sure if it was in a locker or a more general coatrack, but it made an impression. The memory is unclear what exactly was hooked (collar of his coat, I guess). Second-graders are pretty light.
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My elementary school had no lockers. My middle school didn't exist. My high school had a tiny number of lockers, hugely oversubscribed, used I think overwhelmingly for sports bags. The campus sprawled up and down the edge of a continental divide for extra convenience.
If there's one thing my high school was really good at, it was good at being in a flat place.
65: we also had gym lockers and uniforms for PE class in grade school. In high school, I think day students had gym lockers.
kids were not allowed to have backpacks. AT ALL.
Well, of course. How else is the sneering bully supposed to knock the textbooks out of the poor cringing nerd's hands in the corridor between lessons?
The reason is guns of course. There's a very sad dissertation to be written on schools shifting policy as they go back and forth on being worried about the kids being shot by a fellow student to being worried about the kids being shot by an outsider breaking into the school.
36-40: The place we are house-sitting has MyPillows and I can report that they utterly suck. (Sadly, my friend's spouse is a "libertarian" who is all in on Trumpism. I'll just note that the contrast in political junk mail they receive is a bit jarring.)
74; Yes, an oft-repeated dominance ritual among boys in my Jr High school. An anthropologist could have charted the hallway hierarchy. by tracking who could get away with knocking whose books out from under their arms.
JR. High we had shared lockers. In 9th grade I shared with a 2nd tier JD (say 88th percentile on the Rubber Magnate Junior High Book Knocking Hierarchy). In the first week he stole my brand new Spanish workbook that we had to buy and gave it to his girlfriend. I did not confront him, but rather just lambasted myself for not taking the time to write my name in the book before stuffing it in the locker.
Instead I chose to get in his good graces by sharing with him how to crack* the combination on the standard locks most people used (what they sold in the school "store"). It involved drilling a hole in the right place on the back so you could see the tumblers align--you had to grab an unlocked lock, but occasionally there'd be one. A couple of times he replaced our lock with a hacked one and I had to contort myself to closely observe the back of the lock to open it. Not my finest hour on several fronts. For some reason the kid quit being my locker partner relatively early in the year so I did not have to plumb any further depths in petty larceny on that front.
*I came by the knowledge via one of my fairly hoodie old neighborhood friends. I was a fringe participant in various of his schemes mostly just appropriating beer/soda from people's garages and some light shoplifting. I did draw the line at his scheme to break into school and steal everyone's test papers for a test he had bombed.
In the first week he stole my brand new Spanish workbook that we had to buy and gave it to his girlfriend.
Well, they do say that Spanish is the loving tongue.
But she never
Spoke Spanish
To meeeee
In middle school, a friend of mine started stealing textbooks from classrooms. He got caught after an unrelated incident involving stealing a kid's calculator, after which they searched his locker and found a huge stack of stolen textbooks. Then they asked his parents to search his room, and supposedly found a stack of textbooks to the ceiling in his closet. He left school soon after, I lost touch with him, and I think he killed himself a few years ago.
The private international school (5th-12th grade) where I'm teaching 5th-7th grade IT (badly) has lockers, and 5 minutes between classes, which definitely seems too short. We also have a 15 minute "park break" to walk to a nearby park that's a 5-minute walk away, play a bit, and come back, which messes with the next period start time about as much as you'd expect. It's been a serious source of stress for me, although the answer may just to stop caring.
81: Sad story. Did he have a way to make money from the textbooks or was this just adolescent nihilistic mischief?
My kids have lockers but are not allowed to carry t their lame clear plastic backpacks to class and passing period is 3 minutes. School is just basically the worst wherever you are
83: 100% pure adolescent nihilistic mischief.
It's been a serious source of stress for me, although the answer may just to stop caring.
Without knowing anything about the situation, I feel certain this is the answer.
What do you teach in 5-7th grade IT? I'm pretty sure IT stands for Internet Technology, and this isn't a seminar on the Stephen King novel and the various movies and mini-series based on it.
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87 lol. They should send all the Koons to the moon.