The first pope from a Big East school.
When I heard the Pope was from Chicago, I was hoping it would turn out to be Obama.
I expect this to usher in a glorious era of free trade between the US and the Musei Vaticani Gift Shop.
I read that an American cardinal had been elected Pope, and I was quite looking forward to the Catholic Church being led by a little red bird.
5: The one option I would have chosen over the singing Filipino Pope.
My coworker that is Catholic, and liberal and loved Francis, was distressed about Leo XIV until I showed her this:
Loomer posted: "Meet the new American Pope. Of course he's anti-MAGA and WOKE. Another Open Borders Pope. Gross."
5: He's from Chicago, not St. Louis
It's interesting that prognosticators seem to be pretty bad at predicting who the leading pope candidates are.
9: I thought that too, but he was on a lust the NY Times put out as well as one from the Guardian.
Here's an interesting thread:
https://bsky.app/profile/rahaeli.bsky.social/post/3looosuwavk2u
Apparently his people are Cubs fans.
It seems like the progressive-ish wing of the Church had a knock-down-drag-out fight resulting in going from Benedict to Francis, and their victory is even more solid now? It's impressive, but it seems kind of out of nowhere, especially when I look at the average American cardinal. Not that Americans are a bellwether.
11 and 12 are both useful information.
Which, ok I can respect, but the archives surely show what a let down it was to stop driving up to Baltimore for games against AL teams and instead watching NL play in DC.
[Yeah, sure, I could've kept driving, but my firm had season tix for the Nats, so . . .]
In 2009, we went to all 3 Red Sox Nats games, and I think each successively set attendance records.
Forward move I had not been aware of: in 2021, Francis issued the Traditionis Custodes, which went back on Benedict's opening Latin Mass as an option in 2007, by requiring priests ordained thereafter to get episcopal permission to do so.
Checking out the Other Place Without Clouds I learned that Leo is the "first Black/Afro diasporic Pope". Supposedly he descends from Louisiana Creoles through his grandmother and Haitians through his grandfather.
Also, since the Pope is from Chicago, confessions will now be called deep dishes.
That's the best deep dish joke I've heard today. And there were lots of them.
Deep dish pizza is awful. Detroit-style is better.
NGL, I kind of liked 'finally Rome will get good pizza.'
Apparently, the pope's brother felt it important to clarify that the pope is a White Sox fan.
16. M's uncle was a Tridentine priest. He was fired from his parish because* he refused to celebrate the Mass in the vernacular tongue, whereupon he started his own church at his house, attended by insane people obsessed with orthodoxy. Anyway, when his father (M's grandfather) died, the Roman Catholic mortuary would not let him preside over the Mass, because he was no longer a Roman Catholic priest. They let him give the homily instead. But he spent the entire homily angrily litigating the propriety and legality of the Latin Mass, with citations to various ecclesiastical authority, and excoriating the (stupid, terrible, uneducated, etc.) people who worked at the mortuary. (He gave his argument in English, for our benefit.) Mind you, this was in the chapel, with his father laying in a casket in front of him, but he didn't even mention his father. I felt pretty sorry for the real priest, who I'm sure had already had an earful of this before the funeral, and who snuck away before the homily was over. Anyway, that was the most bananas funeral I've ever been to.
*probably also because he was nuts
17.2 and 20 both made me laugh.
23: Was his firing before 2007, or after 2021? Curious how it lines up with the high level dictats.
Great, another unction extremist.
I had a Facebook friend who was putting up stuff about the Latin mass and how Benedict was really still pope. But to me, he'll always be the guy who got bit by a snake which he had picked up. His dad said the snake was poisonous and then winked at the rest of us. Because he was tired of saying "Don't pick up the snake. "
24. Before 2007.
M got along with him to some degree because they both really like horror movies about demon possession. After the funeral we went to M's aunt's house and watched a bunch of Exorcist sequels together, and his uncle gave a running commentary on which parts were inaccurate or unrealistic. It was pretty fun, except he was very serious about it.
I thought shepherds are usually exported the other way.
I'm guessing some here have read it, but Priestdaddy by Patricia Lockwood is a hoot, and 23 made me think of it (although the priest involved is differently nuts in a more stupidly political way).
I know we're not at 40 comments yet, but Californians/lawyers, I have a request -- does anyone know a lawyer who could provide a consultation to an PA nonprofit that just got CA state tax agency paperwork?
It's related to an employee who was temporarily based in CA during the pandemic. As a non-lawyer, I *think* this is a non-issue based on a misunderstanding, but I obviously can't give legal advice to my friend at the org.
Thanks in advance for any advice. My email address is temporarily enabled (link in signature).
Speculation that he chose the name Leo in honour of the previous Pope Leo, who is best known for issuing an encyclical at the end of the 19th century which was strongly in favour of workers' rights. We can but hope.
Some are suggesting this bit is a swipe at (effectively) Vance and MAGA, but while it might be, it applies pretty broadly:
Even today, there are many settings in which the Christian faith is considered absurd, meant for the weak and unintelligent. Settings where other securities are preferred, like technology, money, success, power, or pleasure.
Malort will be served at communion from now on.
32 Witt, the CA tax people are impossible. They want to tax you if you think about California. A DC based colleague and I represented a California city in a matter before HUD -- basically a DC matter. They wanted to tax his income from that work. We argued with them, and they thought they were in the right under their regs/statutes. We didn't get to the end of it because my friend died while the argument was still going. At least they didn't (so far as I know) make a claim against his estate.
The leading California case is kind of dated, arose from Paul Newman's work on the Sting. They've expended the reach of the statute since then, but I think they might well be up against constitutional limits. (Elbee would know something about that, I suppose).
Anyway, non-issue based on a misunderstanding doesn't ime translate into Californian.
38.2 was this related to David Maurer's copyright infringement claim?
"Speculation that he chose the name Leo in honour of the previous Pope Leo, who is best known for issuing an encyclical at the end of the 19th century which was strongly in favour of workers' rights"
Alternatively he chose it in honour of Leonardo DiCaprio, who, like so many of the clergy, has a strict upper age limit for people he wants to shag.
Kinda surprising the Argentinian pope didn't go with Leo.