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Good weekend for whatnot.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 7:31 AM
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Slow news week


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 7:42 AM
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"Mommy, what were you doing when the war started?"
[pause]
"Your grandma took us to a water park."


Posted by: MC | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 7:47 AM
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it is the interest of the father to make sure the child is ready to get married and the airport and road projects is part of the plan to ensure you are ready to stand on your own and whenever.


Posted by: MC | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 8:01 AM
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Napoleon went to a water park and enjoyed it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 8:24 AM
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My feelings for Fontainebleau are complicated.


Posted by: Opinionated Napoleon | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 8:29 AM
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You got the wrong idea about waterloo, ziggy.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 9:44 AM
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Is ajay around? Anyone else know anything about aircraft? Three four engine prop plans just flew very low over downtown, directly over my office, heading towards the airport. Low enough that I could feel the vibrations. One after another. The Montana Air NG has some C-130s, but I'm not sure if these were those.

Are we being occupied? Is this ICE?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:07 AM
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C-130J maybe? I didn't get a look at the front.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:11 AM
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8: If I'm correctly using the playback feature on ADS-B Exchange, I see a military C-130J Super Hercules took off from your airport around 17:51 UTC, circled around an empty-looking area east of town (around Bonner Mountain?), at about 7,000 feet, then passed right over the middle of town at about 3700 feet as it returned to the airport, landing 17:59.

Just one though.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:22 AM
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Correction, it took off 17:48. Playback from here.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:24 AM
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Registration 11-5752, for which these seem to be photos.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:26 AM
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Maybe the phantom antifa buses are book, cloaked even more invisibly than before.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:28 AM
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book, back, bwhatever


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:28 AM
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Charley's seeing triple


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:28 AM
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Antifa airlift


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:28 AM
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For some reason I can't seem to follow the radar after 18:00. Maybe they only archive an hour at a time.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:29 AM
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On the live feed a military C-130H is approaching the town. But it's at 26,000 ft and started in St. Paul, so that's just a ship in the night.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:35 AM
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Aha, now I can see more recent playback. 11-5752 looked like it was landing, went right over the runway, but instead of landing it turned again, went near but not directly over the town at 18:01, this time higher around 9,000 ft & climbing, proceeded much further east, was joined by a C-30J around Deer Lodge... I'll keep looking, but that brings us up to 18:19 so past Charley's report. So I've accounted for two of the overflights. Three if you include the first eastward leg, though that was also not right over town.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:44 AM
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3700 feet is pretty low. Airport is at 3206.

Seems pretty ridiculous. I guess they just wanted a quick look around.

From your link, they've flown away, and just over Garrison what was showing as one became two. I'm guessing the three were too close together to register as separate aircraft.

That site is pretty cool.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:45 AM
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Oh, C-30J is the type code denoting C-130J for both.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:45 AM
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8: can't help much beyond that I'm afraid, but there can't be much flying around in US airspace with four props that isn't a C-130.
If it was Bears we would have a problem. But if it was Bears Charley would now be deaf because those things are really rather loud.


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:46 AM
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You're right, the one that I said "joins" it further east (reg 07-46312) doesn't have a path tracing its history back, it just suddenly appears on the map. So close formation makes snese.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:47 AM
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The only other person in my office today has a green card, based on the Jay Treaty. If either Trump or Noem ever learn of the Jay Treaty they'll surely repudiate it. We're not looking forward to a visit from ICE.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:50 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Treaty

If I could do a Trump impression, I'd be blathering on about why this was a bad deal, the worst deal ever.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 10:54 AM
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24: This provision?
As a result of the Jay Treaty, "Native Indians born in Canada are therefore entitled to enter the United States for the purpose of employment, study, retirement, investing, and/or immigration" if they can prove that they have at least 50% blood quantum, and cannot be deported for any reason.[27][28] Article III of the Jay Treaty is the basis of most Native American claims.[29] Unlike other legal immigrants, Canadian-born Native Americans residing in the US are entitled to public benefits and domestic tuition fees on the same basis as citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Treaty


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:11 AM
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That treaty has had detectors since the beginning.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:23 AM
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Look, if democracy ends tomorrow, I don't want to be all "dang, missed the water park while the getting was good." No ragrets!


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:26 AM
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I'm thinking if democracy ended tomorrow, the water park would be fine.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:35 AM
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And 11-5752 has just crossed over the state line into Nebraska, seemingly headed for Omaha.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:48 AM
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There's lots of good restaurants there.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:59 AM
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Presumably Pittsburgh next.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:02 PM
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What is 11-5752?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:06 PM
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Moby, we're trying to transmit top secret info to the Resistance! We can only disclose the Code on Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:14 PM
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29: oh really? the water park of JUSTICE??


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:33 PM
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26 Yes. Of course, she's had some difficulties at the border over the last several years. She was in Mexico for surgery and was detained at the border on the way back. Then once the border folks figured out what was happening, she got released even before the efforts of various of us calling on various worthies bore fruit. She has grandchildren in Canada, and visits more than once a year. The morons who guard our border have difficulty understanding this. (I also had the FBI wondering why I went to Canada so often during the years my parents lived there during the summer. Brains in vats pretending to be humans with whips.).

I would never have guessed that this treaty provision had survived, but apparently so.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:41 PM
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Damn John Jay!


Posted by: Opinionated Madison Supporter | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:56 PM
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Damn everyone who that won't damn John Jay!


Posted by: Opinionated Jefferson Supporter | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:57 PM
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Damn everyone that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning John Jay!


Posted by: Opinionated Early Democratic-Republican | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 12:57 PM
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22: P3 Orions are in the air with some frequency in the US, still.
And I've seen the A400 Atlas in the Boston area several times in the past few months.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 1:02 PM
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After a significant recovery in the polls for Trump, he seems to be dropping like a rock again. Giving the timing, I'm thinking it must be immigration/LA.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 1:16 PM
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41: It's because everyone hates a parade.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 1:26 PM
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Yeah, unless they throw candy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 2:06 PM
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40 good lord. Really? I assumed they must have all been retired ages ago and replaced with P-8s.
And I wonder who's flying that Atlas. The US doesn't operate them, neither does Canada.


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 2:50 PM
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so are all the protests at 5 pm local times? or is that just here and austin? what time is the dumb parade?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 6:58 PM
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There are two here. One at 12:30 and the other at 2. Then one on Sunday.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 7:24 PM
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Either early news reports are exaggerated or billionaires can die from swallowing a bee.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 7:57 PM
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Maybe it's a cover story.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 8:35 PM
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Ours starts at 11:30 am.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-13-25 11:20 PM
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It was an undercover sting.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 1:48 AM
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There is one combined with the Pride Parade in Boston, so you don't get to march. There is an hour-long event in the town next door. I was leaning on taking the train to Boston, because that's easier than finding parking in Concord. Tim is sick, so I said I would stay to take care of him and tne dog, but I'm probably being lazy because of the weather and feeling very unsure of what the point of going to a gathering in Boston that you can't march in is for.

Anyone else in MA going to anything?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 3:50 AM
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Very bad.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 5:08 AM
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Maybe it was fake?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 5:17 AM
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No, very bad.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 5:25 AM
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Control in MN House and Senate are even and +1 D respectively.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 6:41 AM
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Yes, it another coup.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 6:46 AM
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Representative and her husband were killed per Walz.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 6:58 AM
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Fuck


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 6:59 AM
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Years of lead


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 7:02 AM
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But apparently legislature not in session until January.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 7:29 AM
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The bus downtown is full before it can even get out of Squirrel Hill. I'm not willing to make or fuss with a sign, so I just wore my Harris Walz hat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 7:54 AM
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About to catch a train into Penn, meeting nosflow and a couple of other friends


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 8:13 AM
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The flag on the city county building is at half mast, I assume because of the death of Rep. Hortman. But not the flag at court house.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:14 AM
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I came down with whatever Tim had so I just skipped it and will proceed to feel guilty.

That Minnesota thing sucks.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:29 AM
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On the train heading to the city center now. My poor mom is so anxious, worrying about things getting out of hand. But yeah. Don't want Rory having to tell the littles one day that their grammy stayed home to garden.


Posted by: Di | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:32 AM
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My neighborhood (Clintonville) protest is huge! ( for a neighborhood protest, obviously)


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:33 AM
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I was once at a baby shower in Clintonville, only baby shower I've been to. It was a lesbian couple expecting twin boys. They did not follow my suggestion and name them "Rod" and "Todd." If they don't want suggestions like that, they shouldn't have given me beer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:39 AM
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67: a lesbian couple baby shower is exactly the stereotype of Clintonville, for all of you far from the Heart of it All.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:43 AM
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That was over 25 years ago.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:45 AM
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Wish we'd start marching. Standing still makes my hip hurt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 9:48 AM
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Now getting ready to march. I hope we sing "Do you hear the people singing?".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 10:01 AM
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Passed a protest on the two-mile drive to the protest we were going to. Lotta horn-honking. Feels good to be reminded that there are decent people out there.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:04 AM
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Lotsa people, one pikachu.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:13 AM
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I can't be at a protest, so I'm pointing dumb stuff on BlueSky. Did you know that on the Great Seal of NYS, the escutcheon is supported by Liberty and Justice, and Liberty is treading a crown underfoot? Seems relevant lately.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:21 AM
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Also lobbying against Cuomo in the FB comments of a friendly acquaintance who is one of those upsetting people with generally pleasantly liberal politics except for complete hardline support of the Israeli government, and elevation of that set of issues into areas where it's not relevant like the NYC mayoral race.

I did what I could talking up Cuomo's incompetence and corruption, and pushing Lander in his place: he's competent! He's experienced! [unstated: He's Jewish!]

But arguing about politics on FB is a stupid thing to do, and I really shouldn't do it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:26 AM
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I'm really glad I didn't wear my "Free Palestine (with purchase of greater or equal Palestine)" t-shirt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:31 AM
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75: I am so angry at the Dem establishment types who have decided to get behind Cuomo. Shitty Governor and all, but then sexual harasser too. Kristin Gillibrand pushed for Franken to resign and Cuomo's harassment was much worse and more systematic, but she seems to be ok with this. I am also angry with her about the Genius Act sponsorship garbage. It was about 45-50 years before we gradually forgot the lessons of the Great Depression. 16 years before we're willing to introduce worse systemic risk with the Genius Act. Cory Booker completely blew the good he did with his filibuster by voting for that garbage.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 11:39 AM
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71: At least the 2nd of these in P'burgh we've both been at but not run into each other....

My sign was small and too indirect and pointlessly "clever," but I enjoyed coming up with it.

https://bsky.app/profile/jpstormcrow.bsky.social/post/3lrlr456ddc2g


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 12:24 PM
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There were at least fifty seven people there. I tried to count, but everyone moved.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 12:31 PM
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Maybe a couple hundred in Berlin still there for No Kings when I turned up about an hour late.

Later on I marched with the Ukrainians and a smattering of Georgians. We went down the street from the Brandenburg Gate, and I stayed with them most of the way around the Russian Embassy, which is huge. The protestors shouted mean things about Russia, but nobody from the embassy appeared at the windows.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 12:48 PM
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This is horrific.Guy still at large, list of protests and lawmakers found in his things, dressed credibly as a police officer. Be safe... chopper?
">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot"> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 12:57 PM
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We had 2000 people show up at our event. It was awesome.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 1:19 PM
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I have not found a crowd estimate for Pittsburgh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 1:29 PM
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Just saw a Pittsburgh picture over on bluesky. Definitely 57+ in attendance.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 1:59 PM
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It may just be a function of the people I follow on bluesky, and the posts they all choose to share, but the pictures I am seeing from across the country code as mostly to very white. I think that's both good and important.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 2:05 PM
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The April one was reported as having a crowd of about six thousand people. This was clearly bigger. But I can't tell by how much.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 2:35 PM
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71: Damn it. If I'd seen this sooner, I would absolutely have made it happen. Or, anyway, I would have sung loudly in the rough neighborhood of on key.


Posted by: Di | Link to this comment | 06-14-25 3:03 PM
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