Re: Guest Post: Douthat, Thiel and Satan

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Ah. So its the people that want to regulate AI that are the Antichrist. Spiderman pointing meme.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 6:21 AM
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I would do anything for democracy but I won't Douthat, no no, no I won't Douthat.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 6:22 AM
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This has to be a bit


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 6:37 AM
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3: Ten years into Trumponoia, this has to be a bit?


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 7:09 AM
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"All these Antichrist books people wrote" - so Thiel is literally treating Left Behind & similar religious pseudo-thrillers as liturgical text, since all the stuff he's talking about is extra-biblical (sketched in from different unconnected biblical text).

Yeah, I think this is the "You have to pretend the nonsense I say is true as submission to my power" move, like the 1/21/2027 inaugural crowds bit.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 7:14 AM
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And as has been said over and over, even that extrabiblical stuff points ridiculously well to Trump.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 7:15 AM
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5: like the 1/21/2027 inaugural crowds bit.

Oh shit, just got home from errands. What did the Supreme Court decide now?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 8:17 AM
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I'm convinced by the one or two tweets I've seen that claim Mr Beast is the Antichrist. Just because I find him and the mysterious hold he has over tween viewers completely inexplicable, and he has really creepy facial expressions.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 8:35 AM
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Like Miss Rachel for babies. (She actually seems very nice, and possibly has zero intersection here because Unfogged hasn't had babies since the pandemic, as far as I know. My baby niece and nephew love her.)


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 8:48 AM
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Ha. I have previously observed I seem to store years in a one-digit field.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 9:13 AM
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possibly has zero intersection here

There's a possible intersection with politics and foreign policy threads that I recommend not looking up if you haven't come across it before.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 9:31 AM
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Miss Rachel is awesome. (I have two grandnieces.) She's politically correct, she has the right enemies and unlike, say, the Teletubbies, she's not at all creepy.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 9:58 AM
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5: This sort of thing really speaks to me, and I think Thiel and I genuinely have this in common. He's talking about the Antichrist in terms of science fiction and fantasy literature, and I am (or was) really into that stuff.

And Thiel is right in the sense that, prior to Trump, the whole antichrist thing had a big hole at the center of it -- a hole that has since been filled (as per 6).

Trump's first term was marked by a global plague!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 10:09 AM
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13: Sure, but it makes for a content-free interview for Thiel to launch into the topic and Douthat to take it at face value. Better suited to the toked-up couch convo.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 10:48 AM
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Better suited to the toked-up couch convo.

Another thing I was totally into!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 10:53 AM
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14: The entire quite long interview, by the way, is impressively content-free, in an interesting contrast with Douthat's Marc Andreessen interview. Douthat really captured what a stupid, scary, crazy fuck Andreesen is, in a way that Douthat and Thiel seem to have mostly avoided, pretty much by not saying anything at all.

I admit to having an unhealthy interest in the mind of Ross Douthat. He's a genuinely weird individual in a way that, say, David Brooks and Bret Stephens are not.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:14 AM
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Ross is also, despite being a weirdo and a bad person, a talented writer.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:16 AM
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Where has Douthat random-walked to on Trump? Is he still mostly anti-anti? I haven't read him in years.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:19 AM
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Anti-anti.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:20 AM
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Does he still like to chatter about various ethnic restaurants in DC owing their presence to the 1960s immigration reforms?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:21 AM
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That one I don't know!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 11:36 AM
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20: are you confusing him with Tyler Cowen?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 3:24 PM
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I'm not sure which of them should be insulted by that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-27-25 3:32 PM
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There's a local proposal for a private company to build a fancy hotel on public university property. They want an economic incentive package from the city. They are proposing to invest $40 million into the hotel, and get $1 million in tax breaks per year, for ten years.

Why the hell should the city agree to this? ISTM that the alternatives are either:
1. they build a $40 million hotel and pay full taxes.
2. they build a $30 million hotel and pay full taxes.
3. the university does something else with the property, but I seriously doubt it stays vacant in this hot location.

Just to make sure: am I missing anything? This is just a shmoozey businessmen with fancy briefcase 3 martini lunch thing, or is there actually sufficient voodoo economics going on to justify this?

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Posted by: LBJ | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 12:03 PM
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I think asking what the alternatives are sounds like the kind of wise leadership a city needs.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 1:27 PM
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24: I think you're supposed to make a counter --proposal. Tell Mr. Rich and Fancy that if he guarantees that he'll hire so many locals and donate some percent of his profits to the local food bank then you'll give him half the tax break he requested. You could throw in something about hiring your good-for-nothing cousin if you want to be slightly corrupt.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 1:50 PM
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Would they buy the land? Lease it? At market price or another subsidy?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 2:14 PM
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In addition to being horrified by the Medicaid cuts, I am grossed out by the mount of money in this bill for ICE and detention.

I know my Rep will vote against it. But just being silent on it feels wrong.

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Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 3:20 PM
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28.1: Yeah, I agree that's genuinely shocking and I'm not sure -- among all of the other shocking things going on -- if people have internalized the fact that practical steps are being taken to build no-kidding concentration camps.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 7:08 PM
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26: the wheeling and dealing would have mostly happened before it ever got to the public.

27: I assume they're going to lease it from the university, but I don't actually know. Maybe they're buying it.


Posted by: LBJ | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 8:21 PM
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We watched Beetlejuice with the kids tonight and they found it very slow and boring. Only one of them is familiar with the musical. It was never my very favorite movie, but I thought it held up fine? I suppose there's not much plot.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-28-25 8:24 PM
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I remember seeing that movie in the theater and thinking it was stupid, and being dumbfounded about what all the hype was about.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 6:35 AM
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I've never seen it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 7:17 AM
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I found it stressful in the theater, because I didn't realize we were not supposed to take anyone seriously. Also this time I appreciated Catherine O'Hara's nuance, instead of just finding her character to be a terrible person.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 7:38 AM
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I sent an email to city council about the hotel, and outlining why I thought the math didn't add up. Immediately the progressive councilmember forwarded it along, CCing me, with a clipped "Please look into this!" and I felt like we were in some enjoyably choreographed dance.


Posted by: LBJ | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 7:40 AM
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In our city, council members are allowed to CC emails to a majority of other council members because it violates the state laws about having a public meeting without public participation. There are good reasons for it but, in practice, its really dumb.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 7:55 AM
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Is there a "not" missing? I'm confused, but also I know nothing of being responsible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 10:18 AM
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I would oppose in particular selling off the land. That's an asset for future generations to use for the public. A long-term lease is fine, but when the hotel's worn out, the land should remain public property. Or university property or whatever.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 10:51 AM
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Yeah, there is a not missing. I just can't type coherently like I used to.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 11:29 AM
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Thom Thillis is retiring. Maybe there's hope for a Dem to pick up the NC Senate seat.

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Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 2:32 PM
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Yeah, that's a huge pickup opportunity.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 2:44 PM
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Tillis is just trying to distract from the news that I caught my 500,000th Pokemon today.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 4:01 PM
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Congratulations. What was it?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 4:14 PM
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Snover.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 4:32 PM
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In this heat?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 4:35 PM
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En este economia?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-25 7:24 PM
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