Re: The Village



Posted by: [redacted] | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 1:17 PM
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Just from those two reviews, I'd bet a reasonable amount that the whole "village" is a set-up by the elders, and the creatures are fakes designed to keep the unknowing villagers and children from leaving the village. Woo, spooky, kids!

In other words, your first sentence above.

Also, Sigourney Weaver is a guy! A dead guy!

Okay, just kidding on that last part.

Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 2:22 PM
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if you really want to know the ending without wasting $10, go to

(I actually linked to the entry page, not the one that would give away the answer, just so people wouldn't accidentally find out if they really didn't want to know).

Posted by: sam | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 2:33 PM
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It turns out--who knew?-- that one can find the answer with Google and so it was sort of dumb to ask. But what's lame about the real answer is that it's just as lame as you think after those nasty reviews.

M Night's next movie will begin with close-up of a guy on the can. Camera pans back. He's not in a bathroom at all, he's in the plumbing section of Home Depot. Cue scary music.

It would have been better if the Elders were sacrificing children to Moloch the Child-Eating God, or something. I mean, he could make a genuine Scary Movie without the big Allegorical Lesson(tm) tacked on at the end.

Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 2:45 PM
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"It turns out--who knew?-- that one can find the answer with Google and so it was sort of dumb to ask."

I was politely not pointing that out. I used to have the bad habit of doing so.

Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 8:54 PM
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But, Gary, it's much more fun this way.

Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 08- 7-04 9:17 PM
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Yes, there's a social aspect to asking a question, particularly in one's own place.

There's also a fun aspect to guessing, which is why I didn't use Google myself (until after my last comment, that is).

This is also why I try to remind people to use Google more infrequently than I once did.

Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 08- 8-04 1:11 PM
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Yes, my after-the-fact justification was along those lines. Sure, I could've claimed to have guessed right, but who'd believe it? On the other hand, could I have googled it, then feigned ignorance in order to look prescient? Only his hairdresser knows for sure.

I was sort of hoping someone would suggest the plot line that made the movie less awful. The trailer looked halfway cool, so surely there's an idea that could have gone in place of the lame-o twist. (You know it's bad when someone like me, who's not much above-average at guessing the impending surprise, not only thinks of the plot device but prefaces it with "please don't let it be....")

Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 08- 8-04 1:52 PM
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I dunno, here I was thinking, "Well, it can't be AS DUMB AS I THINK IT IS". I was thinking, maybe it's a really interesting allegorical commentary on the relations between settlers and natives, or maybe there really are monsters in the woods but the woods are really a sort of psychological space, a sort of ur-id--kind of like Holdstock's Mythago Wood. Who knows, I thought--but surely it can't be so dumb as "The village is really in the modern world and it's a sort of cult and the monsters are fake". Then I started to get my spidey-sense tingling when M.Night Shamalyan started saying "Well, the movie is about fear and how leaders use fear to manipulate people". Houston, we have a problem. And so I google it, and shit, yes, it's the stupid twist that anybody could intuit just by looking at commercials for the film, that might make the cut for an episode of Night Gallery or something but hardly for a whole theatrical release.

Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 08- 9-04 10:11 AM
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Settlers/natives might have been interesting, and we-are-the-woods (we are the monsters, we are the ones who make a brighter day so let's start living) is pretty good. Hell, even the basic ideas behind Let's Go Amish aren't complete clunkers-- the self-undermining quest for the goods of the past, misdirected fear, and so on...these could make a movie, right? But, oh, look, a movie about politics, only with shawls.

One thing that really interests me about this is the way that M Night's past work informs the new one-- any half-sensible moviegoer goes in looking for a surprise twist, and this changes the viewing experience. Sort of like how, in Pearl Harbor, we knew Ben Affleck's character couldn't be dead because he's too highly paid for that sort of thing. If I were John Holbo I'd say something supercool on this point.

Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 08- 9-04 10:19 AM
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This is a valuable service you have performed. I wish I had this kind of advice before investing two hours in "The Others". I did wait until I could get it on DVD from my library, but two hours is a long time and a lot of anguished Nicole Kidman to suffer through to get to the punchline. Now, I won't repeat that mistake with this one. I hate pretentious B movies. They usually forget to set up the "high concept" that makes watching a good "B" fun. Why is that so hard to understand?

Posted by: T McLain | Link to this comment | 01-30-05 7:10 AM
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My name is Muneeb Fiaz from Mohallah Hakiman Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot Pakistan.I want to give information you about my village Chitti Sheikhan.My village "Chitti Sheikhan" is a famous & oldest historical village of Sialkot & Pakistan.

My village, Chitti Sheikhan, situated a 3 KM in North East of Sialkot.Sialkot International Airport (SIAL)distance 10 KM from Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot. I never could seperate myself from that land of my ancestors. I remeber when early in the morning I used to go to my Kheits(Fields) and irrigate my Kheits by the sweetest and cleanest water gushing out tube well pipe from my Sohni Dharti of Punjab. While walking along the Bank of Palkhoo, inhailing fresh and cool clean air, I turned around to north and north eastern horizon.My village Chitti Sheikhan have very clean & good Atmosphere & Cool wind & good Breeze is blowing every season.

Punjabi Great Sufi Poet:

This village have big population of Hazrat Baba Farid Gung Shakar.And Punjabi Sufi Poet Hafiz Barkhurdar is burried here. Hafiz Barkhurdar (1658-1707), a Jatt by cast, belonged to Takht Hazara. He is burried at Chitti Shiekhan, District Sialkot.

Punjabi Poetry Of Hafiz Barkhurdar:

He was a prolific Punjabi writer and Punjabi poet and authored a large number of Punjabi books, including: Nehar-ul-Uloom, Rasala Namaz, Shamas-ul-Uloom, Muftah-ul-Mualli, Fiqah Jamal, Se Harfi, Translation of Qaseeda Ghosia, Sassi Punun, Yusuf Zulaiha, Mirza Sahiban and many others.

Mirza Sahiban is his most famous work and is among the most popular Qissa's of Punjabi.These are all popular Punjabi poetry books in all World. It has been sung in Punjabi villages since his time.Punjabi Poetry of Hafiz Barkhurdar is very famous all over the World.This Punjabi poetry give us truly love of friendship.

Tomb Of Punjabi Sufi Poet Hafiz Barkhurdar at Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

Tomb of Punjabi Sufi Poet Hafiz Barkhurdar is situated in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.Some century ago Hafiz Barkhurdar was come in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot through Hakeem Sheikh Abdul Hameed Qureshi.

Shahi Harbal Physicians in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

This village have Shahi Harbal Physicians.This Shahi Physician family was popular in the Punjab Pakistan & Sub Continent.For exmple Hakeem Sheikh Abdul Hameed ,Hakeem Sheikh Abdul Hameed was the teacher of Punjabi Sufi poet Hafiz Barkhurdar.Hakeem Molvi Qutab-Ud-Din Qureshi was a Shahi Harbal Physician in the reign of Maharaja Rinjit Singh.He was very generosity personality.He was an inspired and creative Shahi Physician.He and his ancestors

were the Shahi Physician in the rule of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Sialkot.Hakeem Molvi Qutab-ud-Din Qureshi family is being also living in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot now this time .He and his Grand son Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi was also very famous in his rule.Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi was born at Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot on 1857.He was also very popular in the Sub Continent. Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi was very generous Personality.He was deeply interested in Islam.He was an also inspired and creative physician.He delivered own physician knowledge to help for human all life.He was immensely popular among all sections of human.He always worked for the progress and prosperity of Islam.He was relationed with many British Soldiers & Rulers. Their work and generosity for human being is also remember still and will always.He died in 1932.

Welfare Works of Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi:

He has done many Welfare works for human.Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkak Din Qureshi is founder of Comprehensive Mosque(Jamia Masjad) of Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot & He is also founder of two bridge of stream Palkoo in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.He has done many welfare works in Pakistan,India,& others countries for human. Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi write a famous Book of Masheer Tibbi or Tibbi Pocket Book.This book was most popular in Punjab Pakistan & Hindustan.This Book is register in Barqi Press Delhi India.Their Famous Shifa Khanna "Farooqi Faiz-E-Aam" in Chitti Sheikhan was very famous in sub continent.Now they all are laydown in graves at( Maqbara Kabrastan) in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot but their work and generousity for human being is also remember still and will always.

Tomb Of Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi at Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

Tomb of Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi is also situated in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.And Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi two Sons Hakeem Muhammad Sharif Qureshi & Hakeem Mehmood Hussain Qureshi (Advocate)are burreid also Hakeem Haji Muhammad Mohkam Din Qureshi Tomb.Hakeem Mehmood Hussain was Second Advocate of Sialkot.Hakeem Muhammad Sharif Qureshi is also popular Hakeem of the Sialkot & Punjab & running the Shafa Khana Farooqi Faiz-E-Aam in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.

Zayaraten & Tabarqat of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

My village Chitti Sheikhan have also Zayaraten of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

National Volley Ball Players of Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

My village Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot have National Volley Ball players & Pakistan National Captain of Volley Ball team Mazhar Farid Qureshi, Pakistani Police Coach,Army Coach, like Mazher Farid Qureshi,Saleem Butt,Major Qaiser Mustafa Butt,Zaman Butt,Shahid Manzoor Qureshi,Tuqeer Azhar Qureshi,ect.

Records Of Chitti Sheikhan Volley Ball Players:

Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot players have many records in international Volley Ball all over the World. For example Mazhar Farid Qureshi has record of Best All-rounder of Asia,Uder leadership of Mazhar Farid Qureshi Pakistan National Volley Ball team won two South Asian Federation (SAF) games.Captain of Pakistan Volley Ball team Mazhar Farid Qureshi has visited many countries & also lead hundred of matches for Pakistan all over the World.Major Qaiser Mustafa has record of Best Smasher of Asia,Zaman Butt has record of Best Buster of Asia.My village Chitti Sheikhan have many Asian records.

Asad Volley Ball Club Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

Asad Volley Ball Club Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot is very famous all Punjab Pakistan.Mostly Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot Volley Ball players are play in all Pakistan through Asad Volley Ball club Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.pakistan Punjab police is also play through Asad Volley Ball Club Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.Asad Volley Ball club Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot have created many Pakistan Punjab Police players & Pakistan National Players,Army players,Railway Players,Wapda Players.

Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot Biggest Educator Village of Pakistan:

My village Chitti Sheikhan is very famous in field of Education.Chitti Sheikhan Education is recognize all Pakistan.For example District Education Officer,s (DEO) are belong to Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot.Hakeem Muhammad Anwar Qureshi,Hakeem Muhammad Bashir Qureshi, Pazir Ahmed Qureshi,Syed Zahoor Hussian Kazmi.They were all Education Inspection Officers.Now they have all (DEO) retired.

Personalities & Big Rank Of Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot:

My village chitti Sheikhan have many generous Personalities of every field.My village Chitti Sheikhan have created famous personalities,For example Shahi Harbal Physicians, Doctors,Engineers,Geologist,General,Brigadier,Professors,Journalist,Politicians,Finance & Planning Officer,District Government Officers,Account Officers,Audit Officers,Army Officers,Navy Officers,Businessmen,Film Star,Players,Education Inspection Officers,Principals,Indian National Congress Member,Muslim Unity Member,National Security Guards,Islamic Leaders,Judges,Lawyers,Bank Managers,etc.

Chitti Sheikhan was State:

Some century ago Chitti Sheikhan was a State of Hindustan.


I hope you will save my village " Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot" informations in your website.

From, Muneeb Fiaz,

Mohallah Hakiman,

Chitti Sheikhan Sialkot,


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 03-27-06 7:15 PM
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