Re: I see no need for O'Connor to retire...

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Gadzooks. I wonder what weird mental effects there are. Supposedly, people who have open heart surgery and are put on a heart/lung machine during the procedure often suffer strange memory loss and such). Still, that's amazing.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 10:51 AM
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According to Stephen King, the mental effects are pretty hairy.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 10:53 AM
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I've seen a lot of references to "pumphead," the psychological impairment that comes from time on a heart-lung machine. Most of the effects disappear in a few months, but the cognitive effect in the short time seems pretty serious.

(This is all off the top of my head, of course, so it's sketchy.)


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 10:56 AM
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Posted by: [redacted] | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 10:59 AM
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ATM I've seen a lot of references to pumphead too, but they didn't have nuthin' to do with no heart-lung machines.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 10:59 AM
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The decrease in cognitive capacity persisted for 5 years.

Ack.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:00 AM
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There's some of this with chemo too.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:14 AM
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So salt, excellent, the water in your veins won't freeze. But what about the water in your cells? Won't your cell walls burst on account of the expanding cytoplasm popsicle inside them?

The line about the dogs suffering no decrease in cognitive ability also blipped my bogometer. They are dogs! There is no where to go but up!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:21 AM
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Aw, sweet. Dog people, the gauntlet has been thrown. Bring it on.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:22 AM
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Dogpeople are a different species entirely, don't confuse the issue.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:24 AM
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OK, I have to ask: did Labs really just comment on a two-year-old post about Lileks, or is something technically wrong?


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:45 AM
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It's never a bad time to bash Lileks.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:47 AM
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You have to wonder what prompted him. Why now?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:52 AM
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Posted by: [redacted] | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 11:55 AM
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I'm also prompted to wonder what made baa change his name from the altogether more evil-alien-mecha sounding BAA.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:05 PM
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John Holbo likes Lileks. This is the best evidence I can find for this right now, but I think somewhere he credits Lileks as an influence on his style. (No, I didn't read the whole linked post. Are you crazy?)

Ah, this is it. I sometimes find Lileks' over-the-top rants funny in a horrible way--they're so extreme as rants (I'm thinking of the one about Michael Moore being found dead in his own fat or something, as what it was it was very much of its type, IYKWIM)--but almost all of the time I think, only, "Get away from me you nasty horrible man."

The Mighty Reason Man explains. (Kaus too. I miss that guy.)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:09 PM
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They have evil-alien-mecha sheep?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:09 PM
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John Holbo likes Lileks. This is the best evidence I can find for this right now, but I think somewhere he credits Lileks as an influence on his style. (No, I didn't read the whole linked post. Are you crazy?)

Ah, this is it. I sometimes find Lileks' over-the-top rants funny in a horrible way--they're so extreme as rants (I'm thinking of the one about Michael Moore being found dead in his own fat or something, as what it was it was very much of its type, IYKWIM)--but almost all of the time I think, only, "Get away from me you nasty horrible man."

The Mighty Reason Man explains. (Kaus too. I miss that guy.)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:09 PM
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Is this thing on?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:13 PM
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I'm not really sure how that happened.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:14 PM
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Especially given the duplicate comment supression doodad that ogged has on. I tried to post that mecha-sheep question at least five times.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:17 PM
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SB, what problem did you have?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:20 PM
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Mischief!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:21 PM
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Thanks, that's helpful.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:21 PM
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Going out, try not to break the blog...


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:23 PM
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It went through fine the first time. The other N-1 times were just me trying to be naughty. Hence "mischief".


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:24 PM
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I thought it was an attack from evil-alien-mecha sheep, in league with Lileks.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:25 PM
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Was it the one where you have to wait a short time before posting another comment? I get that a lot when I'm posting follow-ups, because I type like Jehu.

(The double-post has something to do with one of the weird error messages I get when trying to post from this Win96 machine, I'm pretty sure.)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:25 PM
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I'm having a really hard time wrapping my brain around the idea that Holbo thinks he's doing grade-B Lileks. Whaaa? [/Jon Stewart]


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:26 PM
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Is it bad that I don't really know who Lileks is?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:29 PM
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Matt, no, there was no error message at all. The blog just up and ate my comment. I hope it likes mutton.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:33 PM
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eb--no, but do click the Very Very Happy link that I helpfully posted twice.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:33 PM
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You can try this at home: copy the text of your most recent comment, paste it into the comments box, and click "post". Zapatista! No comment.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:34 PM
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Is it bad that I don't really know who Lileks is?

No, and if you don't like reading all those links: once upon a time in the early days of the Internets there was a guy who collected and posted 1950s kitsch with 'ironic' commentary. People who like that sort of thing, liked that sort of thing.

Then the Bush administration gave him an opportunity to reveal that he was decidedly unironic -- you might even say earnest -- in his bad opinion of liberals and his willingness to blame them for EVERYTHING. Including the threat that terrorists pose to his evidently charming daughter.

This made a lot of people reassess their opinion that indulgence in 1950s kitsch is a harmless pastime.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:35 PM
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Or to form the opinion that hysterical xenophobia is yet another form of '50s kitsch.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:38 PM
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SB, maybe the secret to duplicate posting is to copy not just the text, but everything between the lines, like this:

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Is it bad that I don't really know who Lileks is?

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Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:41 PM
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eb--no, but do click the Very Very Happy link that I helpfully posted twice.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:41 PM
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Experimentation reveals that maybe this only happens if nothing comes betweeen the duplicated posts. So 17--ironically, the mecha-sheep comment--made my double-post possible.

Spambots be advised--get two to take turns posting different spams.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:43 PM
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Other possibilities:

1. Only Matt Weiner can post the same thing twice.

2. Only SB cannot post the same thing twice.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:44 PM
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Or to form the opinion that hysterical xenophobia is yet another form of '50s kitsch.

Oh, I would like to live in a world in which Lileks was that clever. As clever as you, LB.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:44 PM
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Matt's theory is incorrect. I just tried to unleash the mecha-sheep again, and failed.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:45 PM
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In a world ... in which James Lileks is that clever ... only one woman dared stand up ... for irony. Coming this summer to a theatre near you ... LIZARD BREATH.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:47 PM
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42: drink out my nose. You are all, fine and beautiful minds.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:49 PM
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The comment-eating doesn't span threads. Sheep deployed successfully here.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:51 PM
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They have evil-alien-mecha sheep?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:53 PM
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Thank god!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:53 PM
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There was an unsuccessful attempt to post

eb--no, but do click the Very Very Happy link that I helpfully posted twice.

between 37 and 38.

It is also possible that one time I didn't copy all the spaces after the period.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:55 PM
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I just tried to double post the sheep question and I too find myself unable to complete the task.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:55 PM
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They have evil-alien-mecha sheep?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:56 PM
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49 is 45 plus a space after the question mark.

Mystery solved?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:57 PM
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They have evil-alien-mecha sheep?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 12:59 PM
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I just tried to post 51 two more times, and nothing.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:00 PM
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Use it wisely, people! You only get one.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:00 PM
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Do you think this is what the O-man meant when he said "Don't break the site"?


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:03 PM
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I just tried to post 51 two more times, and nothing.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:04 PM
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Me. Can someone summarize the state of knowledge on this to date?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:05 PM
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I think--the same person can't post the same string of characters twice on the same thread. Let's see if it makes a difference when you add an URL to the username. (But then how the hell did I pull off 16 and 18?)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:07 PM
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I think--the same person can't post the same string of characters twice on the same thread. Let's see if it makes a difference when you add an URL to the username. (But then how the hell did I pull off 16 and 18?)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:07 PM
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Is there a timing issue, as measured either by time or by succession?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:19 PM
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Nope.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 1:39 PM
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Hello folks. Yes, Movable Type has a setting that keeps duplicate comments from being posted in the same thread (call it the Not Crooked Timber feature). Weiner's dupe shouldn't have been allowed. Dunno. And everything has to be the same to be disallowed: the text, name, email and url fields.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 1-05 2:03 PM
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I feel that this thread got diverted from its God-given purpose: Pimping the Mighty Reason Man's archives. Here's the definitive Kaus and Lileks and a couple others. Here's the best Corner parody ever, including the Poor Man's. And it's got Three Men in a Boat-style chapter headings! What more could you ask?


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07- 2-05 7:36 AM
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