Re: Our friends across the aisle


Who said "no enemies on the left"? Can we smack him/her?

Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 4:44 PM
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I'm not familiar with the Democratic Underground.

Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 4:47 PM
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I'll just go educate myself, though.

Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 4:58 PM
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The Wikipedia is completely out of date.

>Because most of the the site's forums can be posted-to by anyone who has registered at the site, outlandish postings by some members are occasionally held up as an example of what the forum's membership believes as a whole. The lastest example of this were postings regarding alleged causes of the 2004 tsunami disaster; while the threads were eventually locked and publicly disavowed by the site's administrators, the postings in question were reported by The New York Times and Fox News.

Posted by: Joe O | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 5:03 PM
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Has LoveMissile heard of Free Republic? LGF?

I've always suspected there are right wingnuts who post on DU so they can then say, "See how crazy the lefties are! And Democratic senators haven't denounced every post, so they believe the same thing!"

Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 5:28 PM
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DU has administrators?

Posted by: Kriston | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 6:07 PM
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Contrary to DU's insane paranoia, today was actually the first day in recent memory when a change in our color-coded terror alert system didn't seem like a transparent political ploy.

Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 6:48 PM
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I hate that people are already trying to score political points of any stripe out of this. And that may include all sorts of lefty bloggers. And they irk me to a disproportionate degree. TO the extent that I wonder if it something like this that will be responsible for my coronary.

Posted by: benton | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 7:20 PM
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The political ball goes into play immediately in Roveworld.

A lot of us took the high road after 9/11. This gave Bush a chance to take maximum advantage of the situation. Never again!

7/1 WILL be politicized. The Bush team is working out the details as we blog. I suspect that their plan will involve accusing people like me of hating America -- they were already working on that angle before the bombing.

The Fox people were gloating so bad today that the Air America people taped them and put them on.

In Roveworld you need to respond instantly. Good for Air America. Good for Media Matters. And good for DU, even though I don't know what they said yet.

Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 8:55 PM
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Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 9:32 PM
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And it's not just the actual paid hacks who are politicizing this, either. So-called "independent", "moderate" libertarians like Jeff "Leave No Republican Ball Unwashed" Goldstein jumped right on the point-scoring bandwagon.

If nothing else, I think this useless fuck demonstrates that Rove doesn't need to be some kind of cartoonish evil figure pulling the strings from a dark, smoke-filled room. All he has to do is make the strategy public (hammer The Left with ever-more-shrill cries of "TREASON!" and "DEFEATIST!"), and there are plenty of apparently intelligent assholes with too much time on their hands and an axe to grind against "The Left" who, with their unending need to publicly display just how clever and principled they are, will effectively spread Republican talking points without any prompting or specific tactical direction whatsoever. Even after a major terrorist attack like this, there's no hesitation, no consideration, no thought.

And the "moderates" are really no better than the Powerline scum, because unlike Powerline, it's so perfectly obvious that they don't even believe what they're saying; it's just a knee-jerk reaction to demonize the opposition. Then again, Michael Moore is really fat, so I supposed I could be wrong.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 9:33 PM
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Seek help, "Walter."

Incidentally, I saved your emails -- the one you sent me after the Iraq elections in which you apologized for being such a meanspirited, unthinking partisan hack, and the follow up, where you explained to me in earnest detail how you'd been gulled by the left, before describing how an idea I had for a novel followed "exactly the path my political thought processes have taken in the last year or so. Except instead of one person as the "originally-perceived-demonic influence", mine is 'pro-war bloggers' as a group."

I'm beginning to think you have so little confidence in yourself that you'll go anywhere and say anything if it means somebody will accept you. You have the moral center of a Slinky.

Now please, don't start up with me again, okay?

Posted by: Jeff G | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 9:48 PM
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Oh Jeff... how predictable. I knew it wouldn't be long before you followed the dangling link, but 15 minutes is pretty fast even for you. And that story about the e-mails - pretty original.

So tell us, just how fat is Michael Moore these days?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 10:07 PM
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I have the emails, Walter / Mike / Pedro. The quoted material in my last comment was from one of them. Or weren't you on your meds when you wrote it?

And I really don't see how you can say anything I wrote today was an attempt to score points with anybody. But at least you linked the post. That way, people can decide for themselves.

But seriously, man. Seek help.

Posted by: Jeff G | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 10:12 PM
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That way, people can decide for themselves.

Exactly. So piss off.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 10:13 PM
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Now there's the Walter I've come to know so well -- decrying partisan incivility even as he engages in it with such obvious relish.

But "piss off"? You linked me, pal, remember? If you didn't want to get my attention again, why would you link me Walter / Mike / Pedro? Was it to show me that you've gravitated back to the left? Because really, that wasn't necessary. Nobody took your heartfelt conversion email seriously to begin with. Which is why none of us responded. We all knew that you're insane.

Anyhow, I have to run. Enjoy playing the blustery thinker in front of your new pals. And don't be shy about refilling those 'scrips, you hear?

Posted by: Jeff G | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 10:24 PM
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Right. Great. Now will you piss off?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 07- 7-05 10:40 PM
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Well, that looked like fun. Let's see if we can turn unfogged into every other place on the Internet, shall we?

Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 07- 8-05 8:15 AM
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Yeah... my bad. No more linking to unstable wingnuts from Unfogged.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 07- 8-05 8:40 AM
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Did I hallucinate a further comment from JG? Strange.

Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07- 9-05 9:12 AM
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