Re: Role Models

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Gawd. In more WTF TomKat news, I read in Slate (? - I can't find the link) that they're having a "silent birth" because Scientologists believe that hearing the mother scream traumatizes the baby and causes engrams or something. Add that to their "no drugs during childbirth" policy and all I can say is that girl had better be getting a lot of money. (On the plus side, at least Cruise won't have to worry about not being able to perform after seeing her give birth.)


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:03 PM
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Because Tom and Katie are really traditional like that

Traditional. Yes. I'm sure the kid will have a very normal childhood.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:13 PM
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at least Cruise won't have to worry about not being able to perform after seeing her give birth.

Unless she had been planning to give birth through some fellow's man canal, there was never any worry.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:14 PM
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yeah, good luck on the silent birth there. i don't know how they will do that without removing her vocal cords. i mean, after reading this blogger's account of her son's birth, i am pretty much ready to never have sex again.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:20 PM
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SB, there's a rumor going around the Mineshaft that ogged was born through a man canal, or gave birth through one, or something like that. It'd be great if you could check that out.


Posted by: peter snees | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:26 PM
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Yeah, SB, that's what I meant, with or without the "silent birth".


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:31 PM
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Sorry, Becks, but I seriously doubt ogged was ever involved in a silent anything.


Posted by: peter snees | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:33 PM
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Whoops, Becks, sloppy reading on my part.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:34 PM
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Silent birth—or what? I read that too, and it's the only thing about this whole story that has inspired anger toward Scientology at the level frequently exhibited by Tom. Really, what exactly do they intend to do but suggest it very enthusiastically?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:35 PM
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Ball gag?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:47 PM
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Katie Holmes' aunt is named Mrs. Mxyzptlyk. I find this suspicious.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:50 PM
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Methinks LB is on to something.


Posted by: peter snees | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 4:52 PM
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Katie Holmes' aunt is named Mrs. Mxyzptlyk. I find this suspicious.

Hah! But can you pronounce kyltpzyxM?


Posted by: Ugh | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:01 PM
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I really don't think that's a good idea. As SB pointed out recently, the victim can unexpectedly clench down.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:02 PM
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14 to 12/10.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:02 PM
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Hard not to notice ogged hasn't defended himself. And I have in my hand a list of ball-gag-using philosophy types who have given aid and comfort to the enemy...


Posted by: peter snees | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:10 PM
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does anyone else think the quoted text is a little unfair to stay-at-home moms? TomKat and their TomKitten deserve ridicule, yes, but not all families with stay-at-home moms adhere to the gender roles described above.

I mean, I'll likely work in an office my whole life, but I wouldn't describe myself as a hypodermic needle filled with semen. Of course I am filled with such, but I am way thicker than a hypodermic needle.

I'd also gladly be a stay-at-home dad, if any ladies are willing to support me in the lifestyle to which I've grown accustomed.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:14 PM
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text, I believe the claim is that the daddy was actually a hypodermic needle filled with semen.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:17 PM
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I'm dumb.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:17 PM
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I ban myself.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:18 PM
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Nah, the original post was. Who uses a hypodermic needle for insemination? 'Turkey baster', or the simple yet accurate 'syringe', would have been clear.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:20 PM
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Silent birth—or what?

Or guilt, presumably. Plus, you know, special extra auditing for the kid when he's old enough.

The mental screwing over that Scientologist kids receive is one of the worst parts about the cult. Everyone else they exploit at least sort of deserves it.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 5:58 PM
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How old are kids when they start auditing?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 6:02 PM
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My knowledge of Scientology is limited to what was covered in A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 6:07 PM
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Swedish women, like Scientologists, believe in silent birth. Similiarly, most crap American pop is produced by Swedes. (Britney Spears, Hillary Duff, and too many others to name.) A pattern emerges.

Prince Rogers Nelson, an American of partly Swedish ancestry, invented the "Swedish producer", but he cannot be blamed for the ultimate consequence.

However, Mr. Nelson is not a Scientologist, but Jehovah Witness like Michael Jackson -- or is he?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 6:53 PM
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Becks: looks like the answer is 5, with the effort getting more serious at 8 and then again at 12.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 7:28 PM
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My dad always told me I better not be anywhere near the prenatal area before I turned 18.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 7:30 PM
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But are there Swedish scientologists? If not, then I think the case for socialism is pretty solid.


Posted by: Wehttam Saiselgy | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 7:31 PM
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Alas, it seems that there probably are. Germany still leads the pack in appropriately persecuting Scientology.

But Sweden does have some claim to fame when it comes to revealing some of Scientology's more ludicrous secrets.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 7:52 PM
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That link in 26 is some messed up stuff. And what's up with Hubbard and Lysol? He has some kind of weird fixation on it.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 8:01 PM
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Who will rid me of this accursed priest? This is lunacy.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 10:28 PM
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If Ben could type. he'd probably tell you that it's "meddlesome" priest. And wasn't it "Who will rid me of?" That Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-17-05 10:31 PM
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Jeesus. Why must Ben be such a little bitch?


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 1:45 AM
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are there Swedish scientologists? If not, then I think the case for socialism is pretty solid.

The case for socialism is solid....in my pants! And the Swedish are responsible.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 1:50 AM
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Turbulent priest is more common.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 6:49 AM
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Hey, I think somebody put an extra "y" in Mxyzptlk!

Anyone else hear the rumor that Tommy has some genetic defect that results in birth defects and miscarriages? That's quite sad if true. Supposedly his rodent-like beak and top tooth are some indication.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 7:43 AM
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It was Google wot corrected my misspelling to another misspelling.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 7:49 AM
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Henry Farrell has "meddlesome priest"--of course they're all apocryphal.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 9:15 AM
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Anyone else hear the rumor

Previous mention.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 9:35 AM
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"The mental screwing over that Scientologist kids receive is one of the worst parts about the cult. Everyone else they exploit at least sort of deserves it."

To be fair, how exactly does this differ from the mental screwing over received by heavy-duty Christian or Islamic parents? (And, for all I know, heavy-duty Jewish or Hindu parents, I simply don't know enough about them).

They all three do a pretty good job of inseminating the kids with a pathological and largely non-functional folk psychology, along with a, there's no other word for it, completely stupid, attitude to such concepts as reason, logic and proof.


Posted by: Maynard Handley | Link to this comment | 10-18-05 3:49 PM
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