I listened to a bit of it. Given his height, MY's got a pretty high voice. A voice for print, perhaps. Also, I like Bloggingheads, and Wright's only problem is that he needs to occasionally reach through his monitor and throttle Kaus.
You guys totally need to become image consultants.
On the other hand, on video, you can't even tell he's a bad reader!
I really hate this bloggingheadstv gig. He's always chasing me and the dog around with his camera.
Soon he's going to want you to let his friend Mickey crash on your couch.
He already brings over libertarians.
I thought he did well, considering how hard it must be to have the camera not cut away when you're listening to the other speaker. It must take a lot of self-control to listen intently to the other person and formulate your response while at the same time controlling your facial expressions because you've got a camera square-on your face.
And the headset-mic made it look like he was going to go fly a spaceship after the show. Wheee!
Who among us hasn't brought a libertarian over at least once?
7 - It's probably indiscreet but I have to wonder what it's like for him to have his cubemate and (last time I heard) girlfriend involved in a throwdown over health care. You don't have to answer. I just wanted to say it amused me to think about it.
Funnier -- they're on a break!
It must take a lot of self-control to listen intently to the other person and formulate your response while at the same time controlling your facial expressions because you've got a camera square-on your face.
The Daily Show correspondents have got the TV-reporter-listening-intently-so-concerned expression nailed.
I don't even know any libertarians. At least none have come out to me.
(Ummm...Oops! Not awkward at all. Sorry!)
Astronauts call it "space-face", the way one looks without gravity's pull, like Mr. Yglesias. Gravity seems to pull harder on on Mr. Wrights features than, say, a Saint Bernard's. Of course he could hang upside down and set the camera similarly for an instant facelift: wide-eyed and smiling.
I thought MY did pretty well; he was articulate, and he was definitely less mumbly-deferential than Umansky was. But he should shave. At this point, TAP looks like it might be the new TNR - a feeder of liberal and Dem. policy-talkers to downstream organizations. Pretty soon, one of the cable or network talking-head shows is going have to put on a Dem that the netroots can stand, just to get the carping to decrease. No one trusts TNR anymore, and the only other centrist-ish Dem magazine out there is TAP. I assume the first one to go up will be GFR. That puts MY up next up for the bigs.
At which point, all of Capp's stories about MY and the dog will be fed directly to Gawker.
You know what? I'm starting to see those bluetooth headsets more and more often and in increasingly inappropriate contexts. I saw one guy wearing one through a dinner date. Not only did it make it seem as if his date was the type to date cyborgs, but who knows what kind of intel the guy was receiving all evening?
heh as well.
i thought you looked good, matt.
I saw one guy wearing one through a dinner date.
!!? For real?
Yes. I was appalled. End of the world, dogs and cats living together. . . .
Hasn't Yglesias already been on CNN?
I dunno. Has he? I meant more as one of the popinjays that Wallace talks to on his show - a regular guest. Also, GFR should be forced to always wear a belt with a buckle that says, "GFR"; like Jules's "Bad-Ass Motherfucker" wallet.
Cyrano de Bergerac for the 21st century. I'd write the script, but I think I'd have to pay royalties to Steve Martin.
What do you mean? I've never seen GFR, either. She just writes smart pieces well. And she can spell.
I thought you meant she was particularly telegenic. All I know is that she doesn't appreciate Derbyshire.
Yglesias's been on CNN. Once at least, maybe more. I intended to wake up to catch the appearance (7:00 am) and, miraculously, did.
All I know is that she doesn't appreciate Derbyshire.
We can't all have your tastes, ogged.
Or, seems like she might be. Maybe she falls apart on television, who can say, but she's attractive.
30: Ogged is just feeling superior that he reset his TiVo with the pedophilic NRO commentator, while the rest of you went with more conventional choices.
Hey, the Derb was in a Bruce Lee movie. How many of you can say that?
"Hasn't Yglesias already been on CNN?"
CNBC and CSPAN for sure. Hewitt for a while. It took me about 5 minutes to get the sound and lips in sync, a major process was eating CPU, and then the show stopped. I will try again later. I really miss the closed-captioning and dislike turning down my music.
I kinda enjoy watching MY think on his feet, watching the process of structuring ideas in real-time. Comparing these comments to what he has written in the last few days, a lot of the stuff was fresh. It has to be tough not to repeat yourself, but somone with his degree of exposure should keep it new.
He is not the best on TV, but very far from the worst. Definitely had bad lighting.
This rss comments feed makes everything much easier.
Hey I have a question. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that I was very dumb, could someone walk me through the steps of setting up a feed reader, as one would if I hypothetically had no idea how to do this for myself?
I think Unfogged needs to become a liberal Derb appreciation site.
I was surprised his voice wasn't more youthful. He could be 45.
No Tia, it's impossible.
What kind of computer do you have?
This rss comments feed makes everything much easier.
So that's where it got its name.
I've read a few references to GFR being hot, all in a slightly creepy sorta leering tone.
At work, site of most Unfogged reading, a PC. At home, a PC. At boyfriends, a mac, a PC, and a PC.
a few references to GFR being hot, all in a slightly creepy sorta leering tone.
Wait. The references are creepy and leering, or she's hot in a creepy and leering way? Because I totally dig creepy, leering women.
Tia, your boyfriend is obviously good for nothing, but given that you have many computers from which you access the web, Bloglines is probably your best bet.
In person, she's sort of stunning. I had the good fortune to meet her on the Dean campaign.
Tia, have you considered something like Bloglines? It's a Web-based RSS, good for people who bounce back and forth between computers. And there's nothing to set up.
In person, she's sort of stunning.
OK, let's not get off on that tangent. The point is that she can and should be our media ass-kicker. Like The Bride. And she should wear the big ass "GFR" belt-buckle. Maybe a sword.
The sword and buckle would only emphasize the point. Not that I'm not with you!
Tim, in person, your mom's sort of stunning.
Another vote for Bloglines. I'm not particularly technical, and it is effortless to set up. And goodness GFR is pretty.
Does no one care that the Derb was in a Bruce Lee movie? Would it help if I said with Chuck Norris?
Based on that picture, she's not pretty in an overtly sexua way, which makes those comments even worse. I suppose it's because there aren't that many polibloggers to leer at.
I appreciate the advice, but I don't think it will work that well for Unfogged comments because it seems to be way behind.
That's true. If you don't mind installing something, install this and let us know if you have trouble. It's pretty simple.
You aren't going to Robert Kuttner fighting on Han's private island, that's for damn sure. Also, Derbyshire has written (as I keep harping on) a really and truly excellent novel.
Derb is honest and writes well. He is the most interesting of the Cornerites. He is also a misogynist of the first order and open racist, and he shows signs of serious crankhood.
He's like Kaus - maybe there's a point to him, but not point enough. Vote him off the Island!
He's also a huge Paul Peirce fan.
Also: Wally Sczerbiak?! Kill me now!
Back when CNNfN still existed, I was on several times. I also did a long C-SPAN appearance once (and some foreign networks). MSNBC used to invite me on every once in a while as a kind of fall-back when they couldn't get an A-list liberal. Then they invited me on one time to talk about Terry Schiavo and I said something like, "the coverage of this case on the cable news networks, including this was, has been appalling" and for some reason I never got invited back.
Wally Sczerbiak?!
I saw that. You have my sympathies.
I am afraid that if they play him and Raef LaFrentz at the same time, the universe will collapse. Maybe we can get Michael Smith back too.
There was a CNNfN?
There was, indeed, a CNNfN for several years. They didn't succeed in getting on most basic cable rosters, though a lot of digital cable packages carried them. In my view, the best thing about it is that during the weekends when the financial markets were closed, they showed CNN International content which, IMHO, is usually better than standard CNN (though I can't stand Richard Quest). Also, they sometimes had me on as a guest which, naturally, made them awesome.
Taping the magazine to the wall was a stoke of genius, Matt.
71 -- Wait you mean all along Wehttam Saiselgy has been Matthew Yglesias?!!
If he is, just consider 74 part of the joke.
Yeah, kidding. Thanks for humoring me though.
At what point will Yglesias become too cool to hang out here anymore? I'm betting when he gets invited on The Daily Show.
Another good web-based RSS reader is Newsgator.
80 - Perhaps, but we'll always have Saiselgy.
Yeah, like Helen will always have Paris
I don't remember what it was about anymore, but I remember seeing a Daily Show report during the summer that looked a lot like something discussed on Unfogged just a few days before. I believe the writers do keep up with blogs, but maybe mostly the mostly political ones.
I'm sure they do; I've noticed that the tone of the show is often remarkably similar to certain liberal political blogs, which is a definite contrast from how the news media treats the same issues.
OT - My roommate and I went to see The Matador tonight and it would probably be appreciated by the crowd here. The humor is on about the same level (witty yet crude) and wins the 2006 award for Best Cock Joke in a Major Motion Film.
Ok, one more Derbyshire plug. Isn't this a thoughtful artcle, all things considered, and one worth reading? Isn't it 90% better than most political punditry?
Fourth occurrence of "the wood has been made into a boat" = Tom Friedman. Sorry. (That's as far as of got 'til yet.)
Derbyshire has written (as I keep harping on) a really and truly excellent novel.
Yeah, but no sex with bears, so five points deducted.
Matt,
Good stuff. You manage to be quick and thoughtful at the same time. However, while your glasses are awesome, you should make sure to stand farther away from the camera and position it higher.
baa -
That article is...not good. What in Gawd's name could you possibly find insightful about it? The only telling thing in it is the admission that conservatives are trying to send us back to 1956.
What? Maybe it's not good if good can only mean that it's in agreement with liberal orthodoxy in every respect, but for someone who is genuinely conservative to say that the abortion fight is lost, and to a give a reasonable justification for the opinion is "good" and far more helpful in bringing around other conservatives than yet another article about how a fetus is just a bunch of cells.
Well, I liked the framing quote, which (like so many Chinese saying) has a snap that English sayings lack. (another example: the 'on the tip of my tongue' feeling. In Chinese that's "a dumpling in a teapot"). "The wood has been made into a boat" will stay with me long after the latest perfectly reasonable (tm) comments from Fareed Zakaria have receeded. The quote from the Duke of Norfolk is likewise a gem. And Derbyshire usually produces one or two of these every column. He also typically evinces some historial perspective, a quality both useful and rare.
More generally I like essays that provide heuristics: I want to furnish myelf with a set of lenses that when applied to the world (or the hot issue of the moment) yield different, and perhaps illuminating, perspectives. Derbyshire's does this. What changes in mores are irrevocable, and which are not? That's a question to ask about culture and about policy, particularly if one is instinctively conservative or progressive. Derbyshire is more musing than declaritive in that essay, but it's rumination worth having.
1956 is a bigger topic, but I think if you go back to what Derbyshire wrote, you'll find his thinking worth engaging with, even if you disagree with it.
Last point: I would be *delighted* to find a left-wing version of Derbyshire. Who is that person?
Robert Wright's voice coming out in only left-channel speaker and MY's voice utilizing only right-channel speaker is annoying.
The Matador isn't bad at all, for a feel-good movie.
At first I thought you were exaggerating about Wright. I see I was wrong. He possesses the Voice of Sonambulance. If I hadn't just woken up, I would be napping now.
That's "somnambulance", Michael.
Yglesias comments here? That's really something. He and Kevin Drum have been in charge of all my political opinions for a while now.
He meant the "son of ambulance," Ben. (Who isn't even as soporific as his brother.)
Derbyshire's "1956" column: it's kind of windy, and in the end he decides the central question doesn't have an answer. "The large, general problem of how to tell whether some particular position is conservative or reactionary is, I believe, intractable." So I don't find much to engage with here. It seems like a long tour to nowhere much.
The son of ambulance's brother, that is, ambulance's other son, or ambulance's brother?
baa, what would it take to be a left-wing Derbyshire? I'm not sure how to transpose all the relevant characteristics.
As for the column, I'm glad to have a conservative tell the brethren that the abortion fight is lost, but I think he's wrong. That is, the abortion fight is lost if winning the fight means convincing people that it really is murder; I'm not convinced that that view was remotely widespread back in 1956. As for making abortion the subject of shame (for those who need them) and disgust (on the part of others), the right seems to be doing a bang-up job; ask Saletan. Not to mention that legal restrictions to access are doing OK.
[And to comment LB-style, that link he provided for "horror, disgust, and shame"? Unilluminating.]
But grant arguendo that he's right, and the abortion fight is lost. He says it's because the women's revolution has been largely assimilated. Then surely the other things he mentions, laws on divorce, marital fidelity, and homosexuality, are even better assimilated. (And I think the expressed desire for 1956, minus legal race segregation, is pretty vile, but I think that's supposed to be one of the things I'm agreeing to disagree with Derb on.)
It may be that he'd acknowledge that, too, and say that the ship has sailed on all of these. That would be fine; but I don't see much of a heuristic here, because he doesn't provide any examples of conservative fights worth fighting.
Pattywagon?
Is this some sort of conveyance for hamburgers?
Well Matt, a left wing Derbyshire would have some batty, indefensible views, but be learned, heterodox, and interesting.
I don't see the center of the Derbyshire peice as abortion, but rather a rumination about what changes, generally, it is possible to fight. This isn't exactly a left-right issue, or isn't unless you are naive enough to think that the arrow of progress (or degeneration) automatically points towards (away from) your preferred political position. There's no doubt, for example, that American Fortune 500s experienced a cultural change that enabled CEOs to extract enormous gains in the past 20 years. No one thinks Rick Wagoner a more effective CEO of GM than Alfred Sloan, but Sloan never saw a payday anywhere near the $4.7M per that Wagoner pulls down. So, is this a cultural change worth fighting, or not? Michael Moore tries to fight cultural change all the time -- he thinks big business should feel more of a contract with workers, lie they did in the 1950s. And if someone described that idea as nonsensical, he'd be well within his rights noting that it couldn't have been so bad, because the US was an awfully productive economy in the 50s. Since Derbyshire is a conservative, he's thinking about (although here not actually endorsing) the ways in which conservatives want to 'turn back the clock' -- sexual morality and religious expression, for example.
I am not submitting this article as a high point of human thought -- it's merely the most recent thing by Derbyshire on National Review. But it's interesting, thoughtful, non-dogmatic, and contains at least three nuggets of information/interest that are well worth knowing (the framing quote, the Duke of Norfolk's complaint about literacy, and the fantastic fact that Sinatra was arrested for adultury in 1938). That's well above the bar for an op ed.
Left-wing Derbyshire = Hillary Clinton?
I've been outed. I am Joseph J. Ellis:
"Here is my version of the top tier: the War for Independence, where defeat meant no United States of America; the War of 1812, when the national capital was burned to the ground; the Civil War, which threatened the survival of the Union; World War II, which represented a totalitarian threat to democracy and capitalism; the cold war, most specifically the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, which made nuclear annihilation a distinct possibility."
That's fantastic, Tim.
I was discouraged to learn recently that David McCollough was a Bush donor.
"I don't see the center of the Derbyshire peice as abortion, but rather a rumination about what changes, generally, it is possible to fight"
If the piece had had more to say about that -- about which changes are irreversible, which aren't, and how you tell them apart -- then fine. But instead it stuck to the noncontroversial idea that some changes can't be turned back (emphasis on "some"). You'd have to assume most intelligent people, even conservatives, realize as much.
The piece is the equivalent of a liberal op-ed on the ancient conservative themes of how human nature is imperfect and utopia is impossible. "You can't turn back the clock" has been a progressive cliche for decades. Hearing the idea come out of John Derbyshire's mouth doesn't make it any more interesting.
Left-wing Derbyshire: Noam Chomsky.
I watch this, and I think, what a mensch.
We need to start conspiring to ruin Ogged's new (?) relationship, b/c this is just inexcusably dull.
No, and you shouldn't be anyone else's, either.
You're not? But that's not what you said the other day...
Ok, ok, I'll try to whip up something to spice up the blog...
Well, if you don't have anything better to do.
I can forward you the emails I received and sent today, and we can all discuss what a heinous bitch my sister in law is. (NOT the one you met, who is lovely.)
Better than entertaining you, b? I can't imagine.
I think Mr. B should take PK and leave you. What does your sister-in-law think?
Is your sister-in-law Iranian by any chance?
For some reason I find "leave you and take PK" rolls more trippingly off the tongue.
She thinks I'm, let's see.... "cold" "verbally abusive" and "frigid"; "not KIND [or] CONSIDERATE," "entirely self-involved on a good day, and just plain mean the rest of the time." Oh, and "delusional" and "self-serving" to boot.
Not Iranian, no. Is self-righteousness an Iranian quality?
I missed #129 because I was so eager to be a bitch. I'm so sorry, dear Ogged. That's just lovely of you, and I know that you mean every word. ::smooch!::
OK, when I click on a video link and it's named "Bi It's Raining", I want a bisexual version of "It's Raining Men". That was false advertising.
So I can blame her on you?
(You'll be pleased to know that I, of course, told her she was being sexist.)
Iranians invented meddling relatives.
That seems unlikely; you're a bit of a Johnny-Come-Lately as a people, aren't you?
Yeah, that video is lame, but Michael still isn't banned.
Damn straight, Becks. This site is just not meeting our needs.
Yep, she sent those to me. Can you imagine anyone having the nerve? I'd just sent her a very nice attempt at a conciliatory explanation, no less.
Can I interest you in Kevin Federline rocking out to his own single, "PopoZao"?
No thanks. Weiner, I think you should record a version of It's Raining Men for my own entertainment.
she sent those to me
That's remarkable. Can't Mr. B stop her?
He doesn't like to take sides, but yeah, I kind of talked him into asking her to back off and stop advising him to divorce me.
Garageband does seem to be installed on this thing....
(And if you read "The Superficial," you will know everything I know.)
You're just not meeting my needs, Weiner.
The truthiest truth of marriage: you don't marry a person, you marry their entire family.
I thought that the truthiest truth was that it's all about compromise.
The odd part is, she was actually the one who introduced us.
While I like my ex-in-laws, I was very, very glad to leave all their trauma and drama cleanly behind. Now I only have to hear stories, not participate.
Unfortunately, Lubbock makes it pretty difficult to get drunk at home, so full needs-meeting will occur at a later date, if ever.
I always tell my mom I'll only marry an Iranian if every single member of her family is dead.
Well, I didn't want to *suggest* that in a public forum, but now that you mention it....
Oddly, some families end up liking the in-law better than the family member, and keep in touch with them after the divorce, suicide, or murder.
My dad's sister and my mom stayed in touch after the divorce, yeah.
If Weiner and I were bickering, which we're not, I might suggest that his offering up a surrogate to satisfy Becks would be a good reason to change his name from Weiner to, say, Hitachi.
The production values on that video are charming.
I can't get over how much better it is to get the comments in rss.
Weiner, that was awesome. Thank you. Shame that a long-distance NYC-Lubbock relationship could never work.
Mr B. gave me a Hitachi for my birthday!
Because I'm frigid.
162: The Meatman Magic (Wand) Matt Weiner!
No, I'm not pwned! Ogged, who understands the laydeez now?
Still, I don't get 162.
a left wing Derbyshire would have some batty, indefensible views, but be learned, heterodox, and interesting.
Alex Cockburn, hands down. If anyone is a "left-wing Derbyshire" he is.
Ok, now I have a total blogcrush on GFR--as opposed to the only minor blogcrush I had before based on her writing and really cool name.
I get that 162 is a Hitachi Magic Wand joke but I can't tell if I'm being offered one or if it's a suggestion that Weiner is the Hitachi.
Oh, shit, 171 is totally NSFW. I should have scrolled down, IYKWIM.
This may cast some doubt on my claims of laydeeziackal knowledge.
Hitachi is a surrogate for Weiner, I think is the idea.
Becks, you asked Weiner to record a version of It's Raining Men, and instead, he offered you a surrogate. Surrogate Weiner = Hitachi Magic Wand.
pwned, and you can't stop me from saying so.
Actually you can.
Yeah, scrolling was a surprise. It amuses me that you can now buy that stuff through Amazon.
Also, this is as good of a time to point out as any that none of you got my unexplained calf pain joke the other day.
OK, I think under the new standard for o-pwning, 177 pwns 178 if and only if it doesn't. I pulled something similar on a football message board earlier, but that's really too soaked in in-joke to explain here.
Wow am I trying to avoid working on this paper.
I am not trying. I am succeeding!
180 - I got it. Were we supposed to shout out the answer?
(I thought not.)
Yay! (No, you didn't need to shout the answer. I just figured people didn't get it given past experiences.)
I got it too. The joke, that is. Not explained calf pain.
Or unexplained, for that matter.
I would have been more worried about a business associate know I was dumb enough to worry about serious damage from a vibrator on my calf.
I thought you were going to write a new post.
People, we have B's family, gay disco, and vibrators to work with here. I'm sure we can get by without a new post if we really try.
Maybe I should send my sister in law a vibrator. Think that's the problem?
That would combat the charges of being frigid and not kind or considerate. You should her a pretty engraved one.
Can you get engraved vibrators? 'Twould be hard to clean. Hm, that's a nice, passive-aggressive kind of thought...
Apo, my reply was to Beck's link in 180.
Has Silvana stopped commenting ever since that cruel joke perpetrated by Kotsko?
Also, I think Ogged's drunk.
We got a silvery (actually plastic) vibrator for a coworker once and got it engraved as a going-away gift. It was more for a trophy than for actual use.
b, get one, and put a little card in it saying
"Thinking of you" and sign it.
So, so tempting. Do you earn money if you end up on Rikki Lake?
I think so. I mean, they're all actors, so I think they all get paid.
The scene opens in the strobe light illuminated Mineshaft where two patrons are discussing unfogged. In the background the music plays loudly:
"It's raining men, Hallelujah!
It's reigning men! Amen!
It's reining men, Ahem!"
Why not an engraved butt plug? One of the ones with a big jewel on the end.
I saw "butt plug" and everyone goes away. C'mon people!
well, if you brought a butt plug to the mineshaft, what fun would that be?
"say" obvs, in 203.
tweedle, is that a rhetorical question?
#202, not a bad idea. It would have to be a really tiny one, though.
a tiny jewel? put coal on the end. then you can call yourself santa bitch.
Maybe I can get a whole set, in graduated sizes, and include a note suggesting she start with the smallest one and work her way up.
Wait till easter and send them to her in an easter basket.
Michael, you motherfucker, no I haven't stopped commenting! I've just gone 100% Becks-style. Apparently, only able to comment between the hours of 2 and 4 am.
Probably better than engraving would be a relief of some kind.
It seems that a vibrator -- cell phone -- computer combo would really catch on. People wouldn't try to borrow it, for one thing.
Why not an engraved butt plug?
Maybe one of these (not quite safe for work, of course).
Ok, ok, I'll try to whip up something to spice up the blog...
Nothing too radical, I hope.
In the Derbyshire piece, this line pissed me off: How can we know whether, in adopting some position, we are being robustly conservative or delusionally reactionary?
I just don't understand the basis underlying that question. I recognize that conservatives self-conceptualize as conservatives, just as I do as a liberal. Nevertheless, in "adopting some position," I don't ask whether or not it is robustly liberal. I ask whether or not it is a good idea. If it is not, so much the worse for liberalism.
I have seen complaints quite similar to this before, but I can't remember where, or who was being complained about.
All good ideas are robustly conservative ideas. And vice-versa.
That's what he's imply.
There are some good examples of the phenomenon here. That's not to say, though,
So it is conservative to reconstruct "Bambiraptor" with a covering of feathers.
that there isn't some chaff.
Actually, that search has a paucity of good examples, and if it hadn't been for "Bambiraptor" I wouldn't have mentioned it.
It isn't conservative to add "tonk" to your logic, either.
Haven't fully read all the comments since then but no one seems to have noted that Paul totally won the competition to name a left-wing JD with his 170. Cockburn is exactly right. Plus he's got a built-in cock jock.
It isn't conservative to add "tonk" to your logic, either.
Nor "Broccoli".
An interesting exercise is the building of a Broccoli logic: it consists in introducing new connectives, new rules, the worst you can imagine, and then to define everything à la Tarski. Miracle of miracles, completeness and soundness still hold: just because the reality has been defined from its representation: typically the semantics is the syntax in boldface; but this nonsense gets a beautiful name, the free Broccolo.
If I had a built-in cock jock I'd never leave the house.
SB, if you are going to include a PS to text don't you think he'd like to know what it is? Is this Friday Afternoon Secret Keeping redux?
Is there a better short piece to read on "Tonk" than wikipedia's entry on logical harmony?
Also, I considered the 218 answer to my question (redifining conservatism so that it exactly overlaps with the category of the good), but was trying to be chartiable.
What I have to share with text can't be expressed in words.
If I had a built-in cock jock I'd never leave the house.
So you don't get out much, then...
w/d, the original Analysis pieces by Prior and Belnap are also very short and I think readable (though my sense of that might be warped). You'd need some sort of online or paper access to the journal to read them, though. Meantime, that wikipedia entry looks pretty good, though. Unfortunately, if you don't know about introduction and elimination rules, the relevant wikipedia entry isn't very useful.
86: I just got back from the matador, it is good, here's a worthwhile review (except for the first paragraph, which really shouldn't try to glean so much significance from a poster) that I have nothing in particular to add to.
One puzzle the title prompted me to think about: since "matador" just means "killer," is the word, in Spanish-speaking countries, for describing bull fighters with another word used to signify killers, or is matador just used both in specific and a general ways?
Perhaps I should actually link to the review I'm talking about.
I wrote 233 before I saw B-wo's comment. I am also missing the word "reserved" in the second paragraph of 231.
For a movie I expected would suck, National Treasure was surprisingly bad.
At the bar trivia (bar is noting the location of the trivia game, the trivia is not about bars) game in which I sometimes play, there is an oppurtunity between rounds to submit a fact to the host, and whichever team submits a fact which the host likes best recieves a prize, along the lines cookies or brownies. Two weeks ago, the last time we played, I suggested to my team that we submit the fact: "The 2004 Nicholas Cage film, National Treasure, is terrible."
National Treasure peed on the graves of my ancestors.
Also, Christopher Plummer, what do you think you're doing? Really. And you thought you'd never live down The Sound of Music. Your name is Christopher, you're 76, and you don't need a lousy screen credit.
Does this movie by any chance end with Cage realizing that a New Adventure Awaits? I think I've seen the last twenty or so minutes. Utter crap.
If the new adventure you're thinking of awaits him in the bedroom of his country estate, then yes. Otherwise, your're thinking of a different utter crap movie.
You're probably thinking of Peggy Sue Got Married, I'm always confusing the two films.
