Re: I feel guilty about not posting, so I’ll tell you that

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50 YOW (somewhat breathily): If I said you had a beautiful penis, would you hold it against me?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 8:57 AM
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"hold it against" s/b "turkey-slap"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 8:59 AM
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Ooh, I love your teacher, too, Tia. There's something old-fashioned and truly wonderful about someone who values accurate representation as a form of compassion. I think that whenever I see a face on a magazine airbrushed into plasticine (like Keira Knightley's face on whatever hideous rag she's on this month), that to do so is an expression of contempt on the part of the artist. What, KK wasn't pretty enough? Your model isn't manly enough? What are these people afraid will happen to the world if a human being appears as something other than a shiny product?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 9:15 AM
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I learned from some dude on PBS that my attraction to lad mags is perfectly natural and artistic.


Posted by: Andy Vance | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 9:23 AM
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I thought the word was "sympathy" wrt Rembrandt, standard art fare. BTW, major exhibitions celebrating his birth 400 years ago (July 15, 1606) in the Netherlands this year. Rembrandt 400. I'll be visiting in September.


Posted by: Yamamoto | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 10:26 AM
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Brush with Greatness.


Posted by: shpx.ohfu | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 10:35 AM
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6: Does Greatness contain fluoride?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 10:37 AM
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The 50-year-old student lady who hit on the old guy male model: good for her. I hope they go out together and have a lot of fun. It's never tasteless for a woman to hit on a man.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 11:40 AM
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Tell me have you ever really, really ever loved a model.

IMHO it's gauche to say too much of anything to a model; seems like that transaction between figure and artist is more significant than any small talk I'm likely to strike up with a stranger. Hitting on a model: a violation of the Geneva conventions.

"Sympathy" is indeed the watchword with Rembrandt, but that's not concomitant with faithful representation. Lucian Freud is both true and hostile to his sitters; he calls them "animals," and he won't paint models, only intimates (with the exception of the Queen and I think Kate Moss?). One writer says his portraits are revenge for the Holocaust, but that's a bunch of crap.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 11:45 AM
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It's never tasteless for a woman to hit on a man.

I beg to differ.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 11:46 AM
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9. I think that depends a lot on the context of the sitting. I've posed* for individual artists and for classes, and in the former case I didn't want to be talked to, but in the latter it felt a little odd to be ignored. Maybe the class situation is more social?


*It was a while ago, and not often. And no, I wasn't in the union.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 11:55 AM
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I've sat for art classes a couple of times. (no great beauty, here, they wanted ordinary women) It was long and boring. One class had one student who drew me in stick figure and another student who drew a page full of breasts. Conversation was mostly about moving in certain postions.


Posted by: Yamamoto | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:03 PM
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Yeah, classes have a lot of chit-chat—it's not supposed to be a worship environment or anything like that.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:16 PM
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Talk about chit chat with models (warning: this story is a little gross)--the other day I was in the bathroom with the model from the May class, who is very friendly, and told me I stuck out my tongue when I drew, which I could have guessed. Anyway, she was in the next stall, and she started making a bunch of farty noises while she made her number 2, and she apologized, and I said, "oh, that's what bathrooms are for," and then she started telling me all about what she'd eaten while the process was continuing. I was kind of amused.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:20 PM
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I only ever took one live figure drawing class, and I'm a horrible draughtsman, so mostly I don't know what I'm talking about, but once I did chat with a model after a class and she was talking about how hard it was to find guys she was interested in and how all she wanted was a relationship in which a guy would tackle her to the ground, wrestle her to submission, and sit on her face and fart.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:29 PM
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And that part of our ensuing relationship was great, but eventually we realized we had different long-term goals.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:30 PM
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"Made her number 2"?

I can't decide whether to feign outrage at the numeral instad of "two."


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:30 PM
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17: or....?


Posted by: dagger aleph | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:39 PM
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not


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:40 PM
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The Queen sat for Lucien Freud? Jeezus. I don't understand why anyone would. This seems like proof that people don't actually look at art, just the brand name.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:53 PM
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One editorial said that he ought to "locked in the tower" for the portrait he produced.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 12:58 PM
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wow. It's hilarious that he painted her with the crown on.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:03 PM
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Seems to me that guy should count his blessings and help her out, or tell her nothing doing. But this whining about her attentions is lame and unmanly.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:09 PM
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23: Um, Adam . . . "that guy" s/b "Matt F, author of comment 10"


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:18 PM
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this whining about her attentions is lame and unmanly

Dude, shut up or I might cry.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:26 PM
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Adam, are you serious? Because if so, I might kick your ass.


Posted by: silvana | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:28 PM
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I'm not following the contretemps between the "girls are strong" and Page 3 images on your blog, AA.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:37 PM
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Kick away, S (but if someone's attentions are unwanted, it's OK to tell 'em to stop it already, ain't it?).
Armsmasher, there's some irony there. I hope.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 1:51 PM
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Also, Armsmasher, re those "Nude Thoughts" on my blog, going by the comments, chicks dig it. If they didn't, I wouldn't do 'em. They're mainly a cover to be rude to guys, and to send up the thoughts guys think.
Silvana, do kick -- never too old to be educated.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 2:03 PM
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AA: Oh, it's ok to tell them to stop, I just don't want to make a stir over something that isn't a big deal at all. It isn't particularly harrassing; more amusing than anything. And what is the internet for, except to broadcast lame and unmanly complaints to the world?


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 2:12 PM
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Mat: You're so right. The internet is absolutely there to broadcast lame and unmanly complaints to the world. Don't get me started.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 2:19 PM
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There’s a hot old guy modeling naked for my art class. The lighting in the pose is beautiful, and he has powerful, sculpted legs that look like they belong on a statue. His face is handsome and chiseled, and from my position below the platform he looks like he’s staring off into the upper distance with steely resolve.

OMG, Wes Clark is modeling for your figure drawing class?!!!


Posted by: Lindsay Beyerstein | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 4:26 PM
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When I was 18, I started dating this German guy who was modelling for the nearby art school. He was a musician, so I'd come to his shows, and invariably, it would turn out he'd also, while nude, invited the drawing students. It was awkward for me, at that tender age, to be in a bar and realize everyone there had seen my boyfriend's penis.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 5:55 PM
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It was awkward for me, at that tender age, to be in a bar and realize everyone there had seen my boyfriend's penis.

But now you are used to it.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 7:39 PM
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32: Hi Lindsay! Uh, do you read the comments around here regularly?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-12-06 7:53 PM
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Hm, how much detail did that other thread go into about Lindsay being distractingly cute?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 6:08 AM
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32: Now that you mention it, he does look something like Wes Clark.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 6:40 AM
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Is Wes Clark that old? Or are y'all that young?


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 7:08 AM
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36: I would say that the consensus opinion was clear, but I wouldn't have been uncomfortable reading the thread if I were her. (Except in the general "People I've never met are talking about my picture" at all sense, but that's the Internet.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 7:11 AM
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Hi, teofilo. I drop by from time to time.


Posted by: Lindsay Beyerstein | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 12:10 PM
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Hey I have a little time this evening because I decided not to do my homework yet. Is there one or a few thread(s) posted over the last week that I really should take time to peruse because it will rock my world? Or can I just get down to business and start posting off-topic rants or silly one-liners at the bottom of some of them? There seem to be a bunch where I could start right in on that. The "Gadamer" thing is tempting but it almost looks like I would need to read about 200 comments just to have any hope of keeping up and I'm not sure that is in my spiritual interest at the moment.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 9:01 PM
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You must read all the comments.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 9:03 PM
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42 to 41 and 40, both.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 9:04 PM
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Yeah I was afraid of that.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 9:06 PM
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1.11 The blog is determined by the comments, and by our reading all the comments.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 9:07 PM
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On that note...


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-13-06 10:18 PM
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