Re: Shiver

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There's some chance he didn't do it -- his wife says he was with her in Alabama at the time that JonBenet Ramsey was killed. He was apparently crazy and obsessed with JB R and with Polly Klaas, too. Still, that kind of crazy, plus traveling to Thailand, should maybe be criminally prosecutable for felonious ickiness.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:28 PM
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Ugh. Ugh. Creepy. That's so sinister and creepy.

I'm sure I've never given this case much thought, but really, does any person deserve to become a ghost and haunt the hell out of everyone she ever knew as much as JB does?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:29 PM
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And shouldn't there be a law that if you're a grade school teacher and you ever go to Thailand, you should be put in jail?

What? Why? Because of that Barings guy?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:30 PM
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I'm confused about the "accidental" killing aspect.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:31 PM
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I was just about to say what jms did in 1. I really don't care much about this case but figured I'd better read up on it enough to be conversational as I'm going home to VA this weekend and my roommate is obsessed with Missing White Women news stories. She's all over this.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:32 PM
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I always found JonBenet really disturbing in the way that only a small child made to look like an adult can be disturbing.

I couldn't believe that this was in the news again, and I'd love to have them find the murderer and convict him just so that I never have to watch another news report about her.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:32 PM
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does any person deserve to become a ghost and haunt the hell out of everyone she ever knew as much as JB does?

Ghostification is generally considered a punishment for the ghost (not allowed to rest in peace) rather than for the hauntees -- you are unduly glorifying ghostiness.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:34 PM
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4: I'm imagining Lenny, in "Of Mice and Men."


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:36 PM
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3: Ah, never mind. I'm an idiot. On many levels.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:36 PM
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shouldn't there be a law that if you're a grade school teacher and you ever go to Thailand, you should be put in jail?

My cousin who teaches 8th grade history went to Thailand last year, but I'm pretty sure she was just there for the beaches and temples.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 12:37 PM
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7: What about Moaning Myrtle, et al?


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 1:01 PM
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6: I'm pretty sure a conviction would be exactly the black-and-white and/or sepia-toned resolution the major networks and CourtTV are praying for so they can wrap shooting on their various TV movies. They've got you coming and going.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 1:06 PM
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Ghostification is seen as a punishment for the ghost because it's often ambiguous as to what act is to be balanced or secret discovered before the ghost may find rest. I think for JBR the desert would be vengeance.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 1:12 PM
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Smasher: dying well is the best revenge.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 1:16 PM
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Ghostification is the tedious price of insisting on justice when you've been murdered or robbed or something. You carry your head around and try to direct people to the location of the hidden will, and they never understand you, and then it's too late anyway by about 400 years.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 08-17-06 7:56 PM
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What if the act the ghosted person had failed to perform in life was, precisely, haunting?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-18-06 5:30 AM
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Everybody fails to perform that act when they are alive -- think about it.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 08-18-06 5:55 AM
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While it's true that everyone "fails" to haunt while alive, for the obvious reason that you really didn't need to gesture towards because my own comment was gesturing precisely towards it, it is also true that this "failure" is a failure only in an expanded, dare I say metastasized sense, and that, in the relevant sense of failure—the sense of failure in which failure leads to ghostification—only those who are called on to haunt have failed to haunt, and precious few of the living are so called in life.

DUH!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-18-06 6:02 AM
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Everybody fails to perform that act when they are alive

Hundreds of Scooby Doo episodes say otherwise.


Posted by: Felix | Link to this comment | 08-18-06 6:08 AM
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Scooby Doo would have been a good show, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 08-18-06 12:27 PM
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