Yeah, It's actually not all that bad of a song, considering. It's not particularly good either, but I was expecting much, much worse. It's a testament to the advances in studio production technology, I think.
Oh, Ogged. You're just upset that Paris pledged not to have sex for a year and is stealing your shtick.
The video looks like it's ripped off from a Madonna video.
Pop songs seem to be so rarely about the performer these days. For that type of act, anyway. Get a good producer and a decent songwriter (but really, the producer is most important) and you can make anyone sound good.
It's not a terrible song, but it's certainly not danceable.
I like her maroon one-piece bathing suit. I'd leave off the belt, though.
Paris has only one pose. She needs to develop a diversity of smirks, and not just the same one over and over again.
In this she resembles Susanna Hoffs when she was with the Bangles. She looked tremendously cute, but after awhile you realized that she always looked cute in exactly the same way.
I don't watch many music videos these days, but I take it the excessive cutting is typical? It drives me crazy when I can't actually look at any of the shots. And here it is just mind numbing, with no variation.
Grumble grumble. And I'm supposed to be of the MTV generation.
The Swedes are responsible for America's bad pop music. All the big pop producers are Swedes. (Yes, they're worse than Jews).
I have lost my faith in democratic socialism for that reason.
Given that Paris Hilton's career is following the reverse trajectory of standard American celebrity (drunken public disgrace --> sex tape --> reality show carnival geek --> omnipresent object of celebretainment obsession --> fashion model --> pop star), should I next expect to find her working the clubs with her long-suffering indie band, or will she climb higher and higher to new and unlimited heights of celebrity stardom (president --> pope --> space jesus --> etc.)?
Maybe ogged, you should have used the opportunity provided by the quote to pick out two songs, one which is disgusting and one nice and ask your 'friends' here what they think. And so on.
#9 makes a good point, but it's rare to go from long-suffering indie band to pop star. Usually people who become pop stars are more like all-purpose performing talents than actual musicians. It's more likely that after becoming a pop star Paris Hilton will become a Mouseketeer or get a job as one of the princesses at Disney World. Anything to get her foot in the door of the dancin'n'singin' industry, even if it's an unpaid internship.
You know what I don't really hate? That new Christina Aguleria song. But I do hate myself a little for not hating it.
I also don't hate that song. You know what else I don't hate? Justin Timberlake's new song.
Maybe ogged, you should have used the opportunity provided by the quote to pick out two songs, one which is disgusting and one nice and ask your 'friends' here what they think. And so on.
Try these on for size. And remember, my friendship depends on your choice.
Paris has only one pose. She needs to develop a diversity of smirks, and not just the same one over and over again.
Is Paris Zoolander?
So I take it you've warmed up to Deadwood and are now returning to old tricks for sowing discord on the blog, eh Ogged?
Well, I'll bite. That song is terrible. The hook can't sustain the repetition it receives, the bridge is forgettable, and reggae is really fucking annoying.
Which song is terrible? Your friend status is now akin to Schroedinger's cat.
ogged, you have a real evil streak, you know that?
The chorus is catchy, but the rest of the song is pretty dull. I'm disappointed; from Paris Hilton I expected an exploding triumph of kitsch. Madonna (or even Christina) she ain't.
reggae is really fucking annoying.
Cod-reggae is even worse.
Wait, wait, wait: why is everyone ignoring Paris's Francisco Franco streak? This is totally unfair to Elton John and the other people born without a sense of taste. Taste deficiency is a serious disability, one that affects one in four famous people. Besides, some truly horrific things look really good in night vision green; Paris really needs to reconsider.
The consistancy of Paris's single pose is impressive.
I haven't heard the Aguilera song, but it's produced by DJ Premier, the 2nd best hip hop producer of all time, so one is allowed to like it. One is supposed to like it, even.
why is everyone ignoring Paris's Francisco Franco streak?
Did Paris bomb in Guernica?
The link from the nameless commenter made me sick. Seriously. The speed with which the pictures moved made me nauseous.
Here it is, David. I like it. She certainly does Etta/Aretha better than Paris does Madonna.
Paris Hilton, yer so purty
you'd make any flashbulb glitter,
you'd make sparks fly from the cameras,
Paris Hilton
Paparazzi always waiting,
All your life for you to work them
For your smile to grace their lenses
Paris Hilton....
If you'll walk across my camera,
I will flash the world your image,
I will pay your more than money, Paris Hilton
Not by pennies dimes or quarters
But with rumors, snide reporters
Will tell tales of your dumb beauty
Paris Hilton
By the shore of Gitche Gumee,
By the shining Big-Sea-Water,
In the bathroom of a nightclub,
In the early hours of morning,
Paris Hilton snorted co-caine.
20: No I think it's a test of friendship--it's not an outfit for the friend, it's 2 outfits for Paris. So if you tell Paris the ugly one is cute, you're like a total bitch!!!! tryina make her look bad!
26: That whirring noise you hear is Woody Guthrie spinning in his grave.
I heard the Aguilera the other day and thought, "ooh, this is good, I wonder who it is." I was kinda surprised.
A friend of mine uses Aguilera and Mariah Carey as examples of why good voices make pop worse. They both are actual singers with actual singing voices, so they tend to get shitty songs with lots of long notes to show off their talent, whereas less-talented singers are allowed to blend mercifully into the mix.
Theoretically, if singers who can actually sing are given good material, they should sound pretty good. But it would be Utopian to hope for that to happen. Get with the real world, guys.
9 is an awesome comment.
ogged, you have a real evil streak, you know that?
My mother also tells me this. She says I get it from my father's mother.
The Kid just had an encounter with Paris Hilton last week: He went with a bunch of friends to an "autograph" appearance at a local store, where the cops [LA, not private] practically strip-searched the attendees, taking cell phones and cameras. She would only sign copies of her book or the liner notes for the CD released yesterday, for which people had to do an advance purchase - nothing else - and was not particularly cordial to her fans. The Kid & friends went back yesterday to pick up their CDs, only to discover the store was sold out. When management was asked why they hadn't reserved copies for the pre-purchasers, the response was on the lines of 'well, you should have come in early when we had them'.
That my son has a thing for PH makes me profoundly depressed, and I hit my head on the desk repeatedly, asking myself where I went wrong. He couldn't be a serial killer or cyber-terrorist, oh, no, he has to have a crush on Princess Skankypants. [sigh]
He's gay, right? So at least you're not worrying that he's going to bring a PH clone home for Thanksgiving dinner.
Wait, actual adult males have things for Paris Hilton? I think you screwed up somewhere, DE.
I was going to say, DE, that you have failed as a mother, but I see that Ogged has beaten me to the "today's asshole" role. Good job, Ogged!
I also see that your son is gay? In which case he's allowed to worship campy trainwrecks. Completely different vibe than actually lusting after them.
as examples of why good voices make pop worse.
I'm not sure what this means. Can you cite an example of a less fine voice in a better pop song?
(Sarah Cracknell comes to mind offhand, but that seems less to do with the quality of her voice, and more to do with a different kind of pop song.)
If you're talking about the over use of melisma and diva-esque theatrics in so much post-Whitney/Mariah pop, then, yeah, I sorta agree.
bring a PH clone home for Thanksgiving dinner
Way to gristly and stringy to make a proper roast.
In my office yesterday, the MSNBC feed aired clips of PH's new video and the guys on my desk were grinning lewdly and saying things like "boing!" and I was like "puh-leeze."
Aguilera has an amazing voice, if not exactly a (or any) compelling vision about music. Jack White, to pick from the other end of the pop spectrum (talented but hamstringed by his shitty drummer), would do the world a great favor in collaborating with her. So says I.
In my office yesterday, the MSNBC feed aired clips of PH's new video and the guys on my desk were grinning lewdly and saying things like "boing!" and I was like "puh-leeze."
Oh snap!
Can you cite an example of a less fine voice in a better pop song?
Of course. Kris Kristofferson and Townes Van Zandt aren't known for their voices, but they wrote amazing songs that Willie Nelson later permanently entrusted to the pantheon of pop.
hamstringed by his shitty drummer), would do the world a great favor in collaborating with her
Because Aguilera is a better drummer than Meg White? Who're you, Sasha Frere-Jones?
"Over use of melisma and diva-esque theatrics" -- exactly.
Contrary to popular opinion, Bob Dylan had a fine, classically-trained voice.
LB: And fortunately his taste in males runs to very smart, interested in real life, loyal to friends and not into the coked-up bar scene. As a child, he had a crush on Michelle Pfeiffer [as Catwoman] , then on one of my female med student housemates, then on Marina Sirtis [as Deanna Troi], then on Katie Holmes. I can only conclude that this present fixation is an aberration caused by the unnaturally hot weather we've been having or PTSD resulting from the trauma of Katie's being kidnapped by agents of Xenu.
Ogged: I know, I know...
39: Elton in a duck suit is a whole different sort of self-aware bizarro trash from a clusterfuck like PH. Gayness imparts no pardon, IMO, for people liking Paris. Her whole 'I know I'm a heap of shit but I'm a rich heap of shit so dance, monkeys, dance" schtick is too ugly to forgive, too reminescent of the cackling jocks & harpies of high school, too suggestive that she is the sort of person who still thinks swirlies are the height of physical humor as long as she can pay someone else to administer them on her behalf.
"Let's have a contest to see who hates Paris Hilton the most!"
Robust has taken a strong lead.
the guys on my desk
Umm, what sort of work do you do?
S F-J wasn't the first to suggest it. But he's right. Cocksucker.
52 -- work on a trading desk. The "guys on my desk" are not little mini-men sitting in front of me, but rather seated adjacent to me in chairs, along a long desk.
What's a swirlie? (Or is it swirly?)
Ducking somebody's head in a toilet and flushing it.
Kris Kristofferson and Townes Van Zandt
Well, yeah. I love them both, but not because their voices are worse. The only point being that good voices don't necessarily make bad pop, an over-reliance on the same few vocal tricks does.
Jack White did do a few songs with Holly Valance. Nothing that particularly caught my ear. I'm curious what a White/Aguilera collab would sound like.
34,59:Pop and especially rock should not be sung from the diaphragm with well-rounded notes. The limiting example is opera singers trying pop;they sound very very wrong. From my generation:Joan Baez could never rock and Judy Collins was always viewing the precipice.
I once studied "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" sung by a variety of artists, including Collins, Eva Cassidy, Christine Collister. Sandy Denny had the relatively roughest voice, but the best interpretation. I think rock fans demand a coarseness in the voice as a sign of authenticity.
I love Paris Hilton. Really. Best 15 mnute blowjob I have on CD. She is so sweet, even if she doesn't swallow.
The ukele would be a much better instrument than the drums for a hamstringed accompaniest - think Tiny Tim; while a hamstrung drummer certainly would have difficulty with the bass pedals - that's the best part of Meg White's contribution to the White Stripes.
