Re: Money

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One million dollars!


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:28 AM
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Hot dog!


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:28 AM
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I think you mean "greater than zero".


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:31 AM
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Well, atrios and kos make enough to have a good salary, let's say ~100k. So I'd guess Drudge would be around $400k since he's been around longer and has way more hits.
The net worth thing is interesting- in the past (>100 years ago), you could always reset your net worth to zero by just disappearing. There was a cost involved in losing personal connections, which is why people only did it when they were deeply in debt, but I'd imagine it happened fairly often. It's an odd feature of modern life that you can't just walk away any more.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:32 AM
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Hot dog!

That's lowballing it a bit, don't you think?


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:32 AM
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You wouldn't say that if you'd seen it.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:33 AM
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I think you mean "greater than zero".

No, with the medical bills and whatnot, I think it's going to hover at zero for a while.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:36 AM
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I suck. I wasn't counting his radio program, though. I also happen to like living in the year 2000.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:37 AM
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I was also going to guess about a million dollars, though I can't remember the blog that I was basing that guess off of.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:37 AM
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Oh yeah, forgot about the medical bills. Bad luck that -- shoulda lived in a country with universal coverage.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:39 AM
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You wouldn't say that if you'd seen it.

I admit, it's a nice ballpark figure.


Posted by: standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:41 AM
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"the value of my assests"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:44 AM
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Surely ogged is insured, because if he weren't, he'd be in the poorhouse.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:52 AM
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Yes, I'm insured. It's hard to imagine how fucked I would have been if I weren't. Dead, I suppose.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 10:53 AM
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I know someone who had recently started a new job when he had something very bad happen in his brain necessitating multiple emergency brain surgeries, the removal (and evental replacement) of a piece of his skull (kept warm in his belly until they could put it back, no lie), a whole bunch of recovery, etc. His employers backdated his insurance application, fortunately; otherwise he would either be dead or millions in the hole right now.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 11:06 AM
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Salaries are weird things. I recently came to the rather odd realization that graduating from college will involve a decently large pay cut for me, if I still want to do the whole NGA/public policy-ish thing in DC. Years of education and intellectual effort are apparently given a strong run for their money by knowing how to drive a forklift.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 11:09 AM
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Atrios has denied in the past, way back when I was reading him, making even near 100K a year on ads. Anyway, I want to, in the correct spirit of things, make a reasonable guess so that Ogged can feel happy when he throws out the correct, jaw-dropping number, so I'll say $80k.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 11:56 AM
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Er, "NGA" s/b "NGO".


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 12:07 PM
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I bet the number will be jaw-droppingly small. Atrios has a salary from Media Matters, and he's still not living that large.

I bet Reynolds is the guy who's most well-off: his day job lets him blog a ton, so his ad rates are ok, and he's got the book plus some small-time TV appearances.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 12:32 PM
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Ogged's taking so long on this, I had to go and look it up.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 12:39 PM
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Michael, you baby, I'll put up the answer at the end of the day.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 12:47 PM
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More than he should, is my answer. But that's just sour grapes on my part; even my piddly blog ads and t-shirt attempts to generate *some* income of my own next year require frustrating time managing them. I'm so lame at the business crap. No wonder my net worth is probably still a negative number.

Re. 15, my boyfriend's employer did the same when he broke his neck and needed neurosurgery. Boy, we live in a screwed-up country.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:01 PM
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15, 22- Is that legal? My company agreed to hire me to start five days before my wife was due, but I really did work there for a week before sending their insurance company thousands in bills.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:06 PM
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Probably not.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:07 PM
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I'll guess 250K.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:07 PM
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I'm sure they all rake in incredible sums from Amazon. Every time Doctorow pimps a book on Amazon, he rakes in 4%. I make about $70 Amazon dollars a month from between 300-500 daily readers, so I can only imagine what Doctorow and his ilk pull in...so in terms of Amazon cash, I guarantee they make more than $820 per year. Multiply that by actual ads and we're in, um, math territory.


Posted by: Scott Eric Kaufman | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:23 PM
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23: There's a reason it's called the w-lfs-n Indiscretion Error.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:28 PM
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SCMT, I'll have you know that I could have been a lot more identifying.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:34 PM
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I'd guess 3 million.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:34 PM
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More than the gross domestic product of Honduras?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:41 PM
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A year's supply of ridiculous white fedoras.


Posted by: Felix | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 1:54 PM
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a year's supply

How fast does one go through hats?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:00 PM
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A new one every day. Just like socks.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:02 PM
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Exactly. He casts them aside when they are done, soiled by the sweat of a day's honest muckracking. They must gleam.


Posted by: Felix | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:04 PM
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Just like socks

He sleeps in them?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:06 PM
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Yes. His sleepwear consists solely of socks and a fedora.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:08 PM
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Hott!


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:10 PM
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On what part of his body does he wear the fedora?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:22 PM
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On what part of his body does he wear the fedora?

This is getting very intrusive. Surely Matt Drudge has earned the right to a little respect for his privacy.


Posted by: Felix | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:32 PM
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23: No, it's fraud. But it's still morally right.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:40 PM
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More than the gross domestic product of Honduras?

Drudge Report runs 14M impressions a day. All he would need is 60 advertisers paying $1,000/week. I know of much, much smaller publications that service upwards of 20 advertisers at an average of $500/week. I know of advertisers who pay $1000/week for considerably fewer impressions (though admittedly from a more finely targetted audience).

Could be wrong, but my sense is he's making a shitload.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:43 PM
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If anyone really wants to know before Ogged enlightens us, there are rough numbers (a couple years old) on his wikipedia entry. This is how I knew my number was so so wrong.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:47 PM
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That's my source too, SP. Thanks for ruining the game for everybody! I was going to give out prizes!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:48 PM
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But those numbers are 2-3 years old- do we have any idea of the current number? I'm also curious if he was making more at the height of the internet boom and before there were other "instant news" type sites.
Were the prizes white fedoras?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 2:51 PM
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it's fraud. But it's still morally right.

I wouldn't say it's morally right. It's not unambiguously wrong, but the whole concept of insurance pretty much falls apart if people only sign up for it when they know they need medical care. It's one of the reasons why univesal health insurance is good--everyone, the sick and the well, gets lumped into the same risk pool.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 3:01 PM
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But these aren't cases where people say, "Oops, I'm sick, better go buy insurance"; they were uninsured because they'd just started new jobs. Of course the point about universal insurance stands; one of the horrible things about our system is that it makes people do this kind of thing. (Another horrible thing is that if you don't have insurance you go bankrupt or DIE or both.)


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 5:10 PM
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I just got the EOB from my insurance company for the medical centre's bill for my out-patient ankle surgery. Not the bill for the surgeon or the anęsthesiologist or the assisting surgeon, just the medical centre. Where I spent approximately 3 hours. And had a tuna sandwich.

Just guess what that bill was.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 6:17 PM
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$1,500.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 6:18 PM
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43: but now you can just give the prizes to the people who ask for them. I'd like the pony, please.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 6:21 PM
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Hilary Putnam is male? How disappointing.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 6:59 PM
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$700,000.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 7:04 PM
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$30,044.07

I figure the $44.07 was for the sandwich.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 8:24 PM
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From his wikipedia article, copied tonight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Drudge

"During an April 30, 2004 appearance on C-SPAN, Drudge confirmed that he has broken the seven-figure mark. 'I could buy unfogged.com a million times over,' the gossip remarked, leading the obscure site's founder, ogged, to spend a week wearing a white fedora to see if he could channel more business savvy.

Now who did that? Hee hee hee hee!


Posted by: SJ | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 9:01 PM
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That's awesome. Screenshot time!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 6-06 9:10 PM
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Still there.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 12:23 AM
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I got the screenshot, and now I'm feeling a little bad about making wikipedia look foolish. Might whoever is responsible for the (totally awesome and very funny) edit change it back, please?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 12:29 AM
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It appears to be the only edit that user(name) has ever made.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 12:43 AM
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I switched it back. Here is the old version.


Posted by: joeo | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:01 AM
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Who needs a screenshot? It's there in the edits, presumably forever.


Posted by: Scott Eric Kaufman | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:03 AM
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We owe it to joe o!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:03 AM
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I didn't actually make the joke. I just switched it back. I also foolishly failed to make a libelous statement as a comment to the change history. I am humor deprived.


Posted by: joeo | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:07 AM
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OK, I fess. I just checked to see how long before it was switched back - four hours is pretty long by wikipedia standards. Think it made it into any 7th grade current affairs reports?


Posted by: cw | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:40 PM
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