Re: The Answer

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My gay best friend is no help. He likes to fuck women, too. He's the worst wingman ever.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:20 PM
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My gay best friend is no help. He likes to fuck women, too.

I'm not questioning your judgement, Joe, but you might have been the victim of a deception.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:22 PM
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All of my gay friends are as hopeless with guys as I am with gals.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:22 PM
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you might have been the victim of a deception

Too many to count, my friend.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:24 PM
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I don't think we should do anything more to mar the perfection of 1 and 2.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:24 PM
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That's great advice and pretty shrewd, to the degree the stereotypes hold, which they usually do. But my closest gay friends when I was young were themelves such dweebs I was able to give them useful fashion advice. But that was the early seventies. I hope Savage's world is more normal now, and I think it is.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:26 PM
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So what you're saying is that we need to send teo out to the bars with Labs?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:28 PM
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5 -- Well you got a problem then.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:30 PM
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So what you're saying is that we need to send teo out to the bars with Labs?

If Labs weren't eight feet tall, and wouldn't make teo look like his pet monkey, then yes, precisely.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:32 PM
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I thought he'd agreed not to insist on the little red suit with the pillbox hat.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:34 PM
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That was the outfit Teo had on at the Gingerman meetup, right?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:36 PM
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I went out with a straight guy/gay friend pair the other night, and they were so cute. Straight Guy made fun of Gay Friend's matching shirt and shoes, GF called him a bitch, GF put his arm around SG at some point as they walked along.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 1:54 PM
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I want one.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:00 PM
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There must be a Craigslist category for this -- Straight man seeks comic gay wingman, will reciprocate as wingman in gay bars.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:02 PM
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Sure, the solution for how shy people should meet girls is that they first need to make other friends. That really solves a lot, that does.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:03 PM
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12: Are you sure you weren't just reading old Unfogged threads?


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:04 PM
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Bitter much?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:05 PM
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17 -> 15


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:05 PM
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13: A gay friend or a straight guy?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:06 PM
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Or a pet monkey?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:09 PM
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15: Blowjobs?


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:12 PM
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You guys are all invited to my birthday party.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:19 PM
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You should make it a rainbow party.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:28 PM
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youth is wasted on the young.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:31 PM
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Dibs on green!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:31 PM
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senility is wasted on the senile. I'm in the middle, so I have to go to work. Whereas the young and old amuse themselves at rainbow parties.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:32 PM
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Purple is the best.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:35 PM
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15: But making male friends should be much easier than meeting girls! Unless our hypothetical shy person is secretly gay, too.

*eerie music*


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:37 PM
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I know I'm hopelessly literal-minded, but did anyone else react to those rainbow-party stories by thinking that a blowjob that left a prior lipstick mark on the penis unsmudged wasn't much of a blowjob? I mean, yes, immoral and a sign of decadence and all sorts of social ills, but on top of that they appear to be doing it wrong.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:38 PM
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27 -- purple is prissy.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:38 PM
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Wouldn't you want to be red? It would come (ahem) first, and thus wouldn't involve dealing with everyone else's germs, and also it would be easier to reach fruition--I imagine violet being a tough sell.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:47 PM
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I didn't actually understand the etymology of "rainbow party" until just now.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:50 PM
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I see one potential downside here. A couple of months ago, I was casually checking out these two guys in the subway; one of them was cute in a metrosexually ambiguous kind of way, but the other set my gaydar a-pingin'. So I concluded that they were both gay and that I probably shouldn't do anything that could be taken as staring.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:53 PM
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It would come (ahem) first

I would be rather impressed with a group of kids who thought to organize the people into proper ROY G BIV order for this kind of thing.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:53 PM
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29.--That is exactly what I thought. In general, though, I'm pretty skeptical about the "rainbow party" phenomenon.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 2:56 PM
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purple is prissy.

Not if you're black. Exhibit A: Mace Windu's purple light saber.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:06 PM
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36: Isn't Mace Windu prissy, though, as Sam Jackson roles go? Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Posted by: Doctor Slack | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:16 PM
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Wikipedia says the silly rainbow party story began on Oprah, where the color order/smuding issue was explained this way:

According to the report, girls reportedly enjoy the competitive aspect of the event by using the lipstick to essentially "mark" the depth of penetration, treating the sex play as a contest of sorts

This is, of course, also improbable. Can't most people wrap their lips around the base of most penises? The quote from Debora Tolman in the NYT had it best:

"This 'phenomenon' has all the classic hallmarks of a moral panic, ... One day we have never heard of rainbow parties and then suddenly they are everywhere, feeding on adults' fears [of] morally bankrupt sexuality among teens is rampant, despite any actual evidence, as well as evidence to the contrary."


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:38 PM
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Is there a name for a practice that begins as an urban legend, but actually winds up being performed regularly by people who have heard the urban legend?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:41 PM
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Can't most people wrap their lips around the base of most penises?

Rob's blowjob experiences obviously only involve small dicks.


Posted by: Zadfrack | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:48 PM
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40: Either that or me and all my friends have unusual deep throating skills.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:51 PM
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A professional acquaintance of mine once needed endoscopy for a stomach problem. The doctor complemented him on his ability to repress his gag reflex. “A lifetime of practice,” replied my (male) acquaintance.

Does complementing a man on his ability to repress his gag reflex automatically count as an inquiry about sexual orientation?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 3:56 PM
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39: Rosicrucianism.

Actually that story, that it was a fictional sect that some people decided to make real, may itself be an urban legend. Or something I made up.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 4:06 PM
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Fuck Dan Savage. I've decided I'm going to go into business in LA as an Ancien Regime Mistress, kind of along these lines, only less Top Gunnish. Also, we're not talking Heidi Fleiss here. But shit, if people will pay other people to walk their dogs, surely they'll pay a clever lady like me for the smartassed bossy advice I hand out here for free.

Really, you guys don't know what a bargain you've been getting.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 4:13 PM
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re: 43

There's a novel which has a similar, although more complex, premise. I won't name it in case of spoilers but it's linked here:

http://tinyurl.com/l258n


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 4:28 PM
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Lizard people are real.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 4:52 PM
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Doesn't work. Strike that: it might work if your gay friend is Dan Savage, who was a chick magnet in his college days.


Posted by: Halfway Down | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 5:23 PM
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B would make an awesome wingman.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 5:35 PM
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Are you still here?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 5:49 PM
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I dunno. If you have a gay friend already, fine, but if you're a single friend looking for a gal, cultivating a gay friendship from scratch seems to me the exactly wrong way to go.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 6:14 PM
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15 gets it exactly right. (And 28 gets it exactly wrong.)


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 6:17 PM
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49 - I leave tomorrow noonish. You can't wait to get rid of me, can you?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 6:58 PM
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Dude, Dan Savage is still a chick magnet.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:07 PM
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48: See? Advertising, baby.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:13 PM
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B, with all the advice you've given the ingrates here at Unfogged, do you know if anyone's ever taken any of it, and whether it worked?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:16 PM
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That would be telling, surely.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:26 PM
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Ooh, ooh, I'm going to delurk to try and answer #39. I just asked my wife about such a possibility of acting out urban legends and folklorists have a term called ostension .


Posted by: Andy_F | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:42 PM
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I thought the correct term was "American culture."


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 7:46 PM
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And BTW, the first two sentences of this post would be a big improvement on "An Eclectic Web Magazine for YOUR MOM."


Posted by: DaveL | Link to this comment | 09- 7-06 8:19 PM
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Fuck -- the brochure my guidance counselor gave me didn't say anything about a folklorist.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 09- 8-06 6:36 AM
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